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#BringBackTheScrapDealer (with video)

#BringbackThescrapDealer

Please do. I used to love earning 2k everytime some guy left his SUV unlocked.

#Ihopeithasnotbeendelayedonpurposeduetosaltypeoplegettingmadwhentheirhemmitgetssold

Also, @Banana Duckwhere is the hobo who gets run over in the intro! I love watching him yell something different every episode!

 
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VRambo said:
#BringbackThescrapDealer

Please do. I used to love earning 2k everytime some guy left his SUV unlocked.

#Ihopeithasnotbeendelayedonpurposeduetosaltypeoplegettingmadwhentheirhemmitgetssold

Also, @Banana Duckwhere is the hobo who gets run over in the intro! I love watching him yell something different every episode!
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I accidently deleted the stock footage :( So i have to count on another one getting run over.

 
I dont really want the scrap dealer back. Nothing is worse than having your expensive vehicle scrapped.. and it is rather evil doing so...

However.. when i scrapped Ifrits I drove them to the scrap dealer and gained 500 000 from them.. hm.

#trumptrain

 
Booker Dewitt said:
I dont really want the scrap dealer back. Nothing is worse than having your expensive vehicle scrapped.. and it is rather evil doing so...

However.. when i scrapped Ifrits I drove them to the scrap dealer and gained 500 000 from them.. hm.

#trumptrain
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Well consider a perk skills then to some extent, Ifrits and hemmitt boxed being the endgame perks.

 
I say this, the scrap dealer was a horrible thing, I hated it as a civilian due to it's trolling nature, people just stealing your truck/car to scrap it. When your new this is an absolute pain. But now, seeing cars everywhere, I do think it needs to be brought back a bit to make these people who leave there cars everywhere something to be scared of. Kavala/Airport over 5 cars can be found littered. 

 
Don't bring it back. I hated my hemmets/sporties being stolen from the kavala parking lot and scrapped by hobos that didn't know the rules. I love being able to lend out my hemmets/huron to hobos and not have to worry about them being scrapped. 

 
GraphicMarble said:
@AmbersSince you believe that the presence of the Scrap dealer is not good for RP I am going to give you examples why NOT having a scrap dealer is AFFECTING RP.

For example: Bob the hobo is driving in his beautiful Hemmitt Box. He gets stopped by some rebels and is asked for the keys of his truck. The rebels threatened his life for the vehicle keys, but Bob doesn't give shit because it doesn't cost money to respawn. If a scrap dealer existed then instead of threatening Bob's life the Rebels would threaten to scrap his beautiful Hemmitt. And that's when Bob would actually give a shit because trucks are not for free.

Sincerely the Rebel who tried to rob Bob
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I stated in a post before this one that I value my life in RP the same as I value my real life thats why I will always mostly comply, Bob the hobo who driving the Hemmt Box is also 9 out of 10 times Bob the Hobo that think's 5 second robberies are acceptable role-play standards.

I gave someone my keys a few weeks ago to my Huron but they gave me good RP even waited for me to find my keys in the swamp after I dropped them because my arms was shaking cus I was so scared for my life.

A good RP'er would value his life a bad RP'er wouldn't.. Don't matter if there is money or items on the line.

 
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John Pickle said:
I would personally say that if you were a compliant victim simply attempting to RP, but still killed, that the robbers failed RP and are breaking rules. However, I can see this being a grey area and will not go any further than that.

And I may have envisioned everyone as having a few million each, rather than the little guy. I was there once, and should not have forgotten the pain I went through having my new trucks stolen instantly and scrapped! However, I may have a solution. Perhaps all newly purchased vehicles come with a "1 week warranty" where they are unable to be scrapped / can be scrapped but re-appear in your garage during that first week. Although I could see this being either impossible, or simply too much effort to do for a minor change in-game.

However, with all views put forward so far I would still like to see some sort of scrap dealer around!

#BringbackThescrapDealerButInABetterWayThanBefore

EDIT: while browsing the forums I found a similar topic asking to bring back scrap dealer (and delivery missons) that also has a few valid points on it for both sides. 
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Oh shit boy waddup. 

On a serious note, bring it back. It serves value and I want to scrap stuff. 

 
2 ways to make the scrapping more interesting (imo) are:

Place it in UMNC territories so people who want to scrap cars need a good alibi. (Assuming UMNC disprove of scrapping) 

Make it an actual skill that takes time (to scrap a vehcie), and levels up to allow you to scrap bigger and better vehicles. The best vehicle you can scrap depends on you scrapping level. This can be implemented in different ways, either by raw value of the vehicle, or by classes. E.G: Each level adds £X to your maximum scrapping price, or have vehicle classes: hatchback + off road < suv < hatchback sport + truck boxer < zamak < tempest < hemmt < m900 + hummingbird < orca < hellcat < huron + thru. 

 
Brick said:
2 ways to make the scrapping more interesting (imo) are:

Place it in UMNC territories so people who want to scrap cars need a good alibi. (Assuming UMNC disprove of scrapping) 

Make it an actual skill that takes time (to scrap a vehcie), and levels up to allow you to scrap bigger and better vehicles. The best vehicle you can scrap depends on you scrapping level. This can be implemented in different ways, either by raw value of the vehicle, or by classes. E.G: Each level adds £X to your maximum scrapping price, or have vehicle classes: hatchback + off road < suv < hatchback sport + truck boxer < zamak < tempest < hemmt < m900 + hummingbird < orca < hellcat < huron + thru. 
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Should not be able to have hobos scrapping Hurons or Taru's, One case of RDM and you instantly lost 30million, Losing 30million to police scrapping for doing illegal stuff is pretty bad, let alone getting RDM'ed and having it scrapped by a hobo with pistol.

 
ARAC need ability to impound. When I play as ARAC, I lockpick (so do other ARACs) abandoned vehicles and place them away.

 
I disagree, makes it so much more catastrophic for new players, I have the experience of doing copper runs to earn my first hemmt box and on that same run I got robbed, complied with everything mind you and still had the bloody thing scrapped. If people don't role-play then that's their report but adding the scrap dealer back just results in more robberies and puts people of doing any kinds of runs.

 
Bring it back but no hurons, I dont want the fear of my huron being scrapped every 5 mins by hobos with rooks

 
-Nathan- said:
Bring it back but no hurons, I dont want the fear of my huron being scrapped every 5 mins by hobos with rooks
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Right but it's ok if other peoples stuff is scrapped right?

Sorry i'm a noob (who has just returned after a absence) and when I started out in this game last year I had three of my Hermmt's scrapped by thieves  in a short space of time, this pretty much killed the game for me, as I don't carry a gun (nor want to) and i'm not allowed to run over people who pull guns on me as that's against the rules, but they are allowed to grief for kicks.

The people who start this game don't have millions and spend lots of time and effort getting the cash together to buy those vehicle, bringing back this grief mechanic would drive away lot's of newcomers who once they lost that first vehicle might just give up.  

You might get your jollies but you could also end up driving someone away from the game.  

 
There are many Pros and Cons of the scrap dealer. However if we have a scrap dealer, we need a way to balance it. I enjoy giving out helis and HEMMTs to hobos. Mostly to see if they can get it scrapped by the Police... Nevermind, bring back the scrap dealer! 

 
A possible solution is to bring back the scrap dealer but when they scrap a vehicle instead of it being removed from the owners garage permanently it is instead placed on a 48hr timer, where it cannot be pulled from the garage again until the timer expires.   This will still have a negative effect on the owner without them actually having lost all of the effort needed to acquire the vehicle in the first place. 

It might also promote more RP as people find solutions to surviving for that time period.

 
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