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Banneble?

Nick Roosen

Nick Roosen

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Hello,

Is it banneble to get in one of the high bushes(the impenetrable ones) and shoot from there so they can kill you but you can't kill them?

 
I don't believe so, however as @SGT Drama Lama said, it's common sense. Only go into them if you need to (Take cover, hide) But I wouldn't suggest having a full length gunfight in them as the prospect of not being able to die in them makes the game boring.

 
Okay, because we were in a gun fight and he was in the bush i ren to him and i got killed even doh i shot a lot of bullets in him and he didn't die

 
Samatlewiss said:
I don't believe so, however as @SGT Drama Lama said, it's common sense. Only go into them if you need to (Take cover, hide) But I wouldn't suggest having a full length gunfight in them as the prospect of not being able to die in them makes the game boring.
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That's not accurate..

You can get easily killed from there, actually i think this is the worst place to fight with cops / other people.

There is no protection from there, my friends tried it against cops, lets say it doesn't end good, for them.

 
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Omer said:
That's not accurate..

You can get easily killed from there, actually i think this is the worst place to fight with cops / other people.

There is no protection from there, my friends tried it against cops, lets say it doesn't end good, for them.
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They must have updated it then because as far as I can remember the long reeds were impenetrable, so it is fairly accurate.

 
CantHandleMySwag said:
Hello,

Is it banneble to get in one of the high bushes(the impenetrable ones) and shoot from there so they can kill you but you can't kill them?
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To be honest i have killed many people from afar in this high buses as well as been killed in them , so no it is not ban able , as long as you are not exploiting a specific spot which you know gives you an unfair advantage.

 
When using the reeds you need to remember they are bullet proof. Basically common sense. Don't exploit the shit out of them, for example running in and out deliberately as you know they are bullet proof. When it gets to a point when it's pretty clear what the player is doing is probably then when an admin would ban.

your opinion on this? @Steph ♥

 
It all depends on the situation really. If you are in a gunfight that already took place nearby and you are being pushed into that direction or it is the only way to hide then obviously yes you can go in there. But what would NOT be okay is if you actively BAIT Cops/Rebels/Civs in there knowing that they can't kill you. If you do it with the simple intention of luring them there so you can slaughter them then it's not only exploiting but also Fail RP. 

 
you may aswell throw other things in here then all arma mechanics, shooting when people cant see you due to ground rendering, the 1 way bush shooting, shooting at peoples feet when they are upstairs in a building and you can see their feet, using 3rd person in a 3rd person game, people using 3rd person to see upstairs in a building from vehicles, people using 3rd person to see through walls.

 
Just Fuel said:
you may aswell throw other things in here then all arma mechanics, shooting when people cant see you due to ground rendering, the 1 way bush shooting, shooting at peoples feet when they are upstairs in a building and you can see their feet, using 3rd person in a 3rd person game, people using 3rd person to see upstairs in a building from vehicles, people using 3rd person to see through walls.
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Its all about intent.. Just don't abuse the fuck out of the things that arma hasn't done good..

 
I hardly ever use the bushes, most people know me if I get in a gun fight I head to high ground, it is only my opinion but you should be permitted to use bushes however you wish, as in the end of the day a bush is a bush, arma has some really bad mechanics at times and their will always be issues with bullet penetration, I think the best way is to just live with the issues

 
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Just Fuel said:
[COLOR= rgb(191, 191, 191)]I hardly ever use the bushes, most people know me if I get in a gun fight I head to high ground, it is only my opinion but you should be permitted to use bushes however you wish, as in the end of the day a bush is a bush, arma has some really bad mechanics at times and their will always be issues with bullet penetration, I think the best way is to just live with the issues[/COLOR]
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Its not a bannable offense.. nobody said it was.. (Steph certainly didn't in her post)

And it certainly was never said there are different times you can use the bushes...

When your using it with the INTENT to EXPLOIT thats when it becomes a problem - Which has ALWAYS been the case

 
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There was a topic like this a while ago @Just Fuel. Most people know it's no acceptable to start a gunfight in the bushes because it would be exploiting Arma.. I don't mean the cops have someone's friend and they initate, I mean like pure camping in reeds with the intent to nonstop kill

 
Just Fuel said:
[COLOR= rgb(191, 191, 191)]I hardly ever use the bushes, most people know me if I get in a gun fight I head to high ground, it is only my opinion but you should be permitted to use bushes however you wish, as in the end of the day a bush is a bush, arma has some really bad mechanics at times and their will always be issues with bullet penetration, I think the best way is to just live with the issues[/COLOR]
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There is a difference between simply using the game mechanics to your advantage such as 3rd person, and abusing those mechanics.

We all know that deliberately using Reeds being impenetrable / having stupidly high bullet deflection would be considered abusing the game mechanics.
If you happen to end up in the reeds, then fair enough, but if you deliberately run into reeds to specifically abuse the fact that your almost invincible, then there's a problem. 

If you really think that the reeds aren't a problem, then its almost the same as saying glitching through walls isn't a problem, or other exploits / glitches in the game.

 
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