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Remix said:
If you're decent players and coordinate enough with your gang members, doing the HM is usually easy anyway depending on the amount/quality of the police on duty at the time. Cops being able to return unlike rebels sounds unfair, even I thought it was when I was a rebel however when you see it from both sides you understand that by the time the NLR is over for police, the trucks should've usually left the compound by then, at which time rebels can return anyway.

I could go into the fact that police in general have worse gear which is true, however rubber bullets, increased police force and the rise of AR squads going on patrol has definitely made bank jobs much harder than before and instead of blaming this rule of no returning for you losing the bank operation, think about how you could improve next time... better positions, tactics etc. I used to love shootouts at the HM Treasury as a rebel, even if it ended up in the police scrapping all of the trucks and my ass being taken to jail.
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Yeah I don't know why he even started this post, as He didn't lose.

 
Eddylane said:
I more mean high ranking officers should play but more on both servers like high ranking officers need to be same amount on s2
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Why do high ranking officers make a difference? It tends to be the low ranking officers leading most bank jobs even if higher ranking officers are on duty. There's been a few times where they haven't even attended the bank operation and stayed on normal patrol and an AR member would usually step in which is perfectly suitable and might be better. Just because somebody has a high rank in the police force doesn't mean they're good at combat or able to conduct a whole police force to successfully stop the rebels.

There are also some high ranking cops that I see playing on server 2 90% of the time such as @and @DI Tampax who are usually online more than any other high ups that mostly play server 1 which is nice to see.

 
Eddylane said:
Well lets say this cops should still have the nlr rule but dont forget you gotta hold some cops alive like yesterday u still had around 5 cops alive but its weird that si's and csi's still gotta login why do you guys always play s1 and not s2 than you dont have to change cuz if you split your higher rankings up its better for every server...

 But i do agree with simon without any force would be very boring.
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Do the HM on server 1 then? if your issue is that 'high ranking officers' are playing S1 only and switch, I think there are high ranking officers on server 2, but I wouldn't know that :Cool:

 
If a cop breaks NLR, resolve or report it, just like any other player.

Why shouldn't cops be able to come back? It's not as if an island of this size would literally have just 30 or less officers on it, right? Rebels have better camouflage and better mobility within rules; they only have basic server rules. Not to take into account the avaliablilty of higher calibers that , if you chose, ALL Rebels  could have @ the bank job. 

 
We were told months ago that we can not return to the bank, apparently according to Neo it has changed back? Can this be clarified @Neo

 
DI Voltz said:
We were told months ago that we can not return to the bank, apparently according to Neo it has changed back? Can this be clarified @Neo
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Its been like this for months. Police can return after NLR but rebels can return only to the transport part, not to the bank itself.

 
This is why there is Police/Rebel meetings so arguments don't start on the forums. So if you really want something to change then bring it up there where it can be discussed and not a handful of people just liking comments mad by their mates.   :Love:

 
DI Voltz said:
We were told months ago that we can not return to the bank, apparently according to Neo it has changed back? Can this be clarified @Neo
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It was said months ago in a weekly police meeting.... You should pay more attention!

 
DI Voltz said:
We were told months ago that we can not return to the bank, apparently according to Neo it has changed back? Can this be clarified @Neo
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It doesn't need clarified, i've just said, COPS CAN RETURN.

If myself, @Vladic Ka, or @Steph ♥ say something, listen/read/learn.

 
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IMHO, a successful HM robbery should be a rarity, as IRL. It shouldn´t be something a gang can pull off every day and should require outstanding tactics instead of the ability to shoot people dead.

E.g. Distracting cops across the map, using decoys, setting up ambushes etc.

Just my opinion.

 
Remix said:
Why do high ranking officers make a difference? It tends to be the low ranking officers leading most bank jobs even if higher ranking officers are on duty. There's been a few times where they haven't even attended the bank operation and stayed on normal patrol and an AR member would usually step in which is perfectly suitable and might be better. Just because somebody has a high rank in the police force doesn't mean they're good at combat or able to conduct a whole police force to successfully stop the rebels.

There are also some high ranking cops that I see playing on server 2 90% of the time such as @and @DI Tampax who are usually online more than any other high ups that mostly play server 1 which is nice to see.
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Testify!

And it's not easy controlling a server with the ratio of cops to civ 1:20...

 
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Edited just noticed my statement already stated.

But the fact that is police normally get destroyed by rebels with larger weapons and the fact thats they can set up before any cops even arrive! They have the element of surprise. At the HM the compound is surrounded by 4 hills covering the whole perimeter of the compound. Having a sniper on each hill all of the points of the HM is covered by rebels, cops would have to set up during negotiations but even then the rebels can still use the snipers by locating where police are setting up and radio to there friendly in the compound. And then when you are done collecting the gold and such just lay low for a while, things I love about games such as GTA is when the rob the bank they even hide the trucks with the money inside and they don't do anything with it because they know that cops and feds will be surrounding the places the can use that money.

Either way the rebels have so much advantages over the police when it comes to the HM that it is only fair to allow police to go back cause normally when police arrive they have the whole police force arrive to wave one and then when everyone gets killed most go back on patrol and never go back. Plus there would always be more police coming back all the time. A whole island would not have a complete police force of just 30 police officers when the whole island is full of terrorists and rebels always arming themselves and running around with larges guns and transporting drugs and stuff. 

 
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Tbh cops should get more slots on the server so it can be made harder with the hm

 
Eddylane said:
Tbh cops should get more slots on the server so it can be made harder with the hm
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No, the cops shouldn't have more slots.

If anything, we should have one BIG server, which is impossible if we want a good gaming experience.

Next best option is roleplay, or giving the police better combat training so they can deal with it. All though I do believe AR is the ones supposed to deal with bank robberies. - I haven't been a part of the police for about 11 months now, so I don't really know the different roles anymore, but combat have never really been a strong side of the police as an overall "skill".

 
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