Absolute Joke!

[nozeinho]

I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. I fucked up, made a mistake, i'm sorry. A game mechanic screwed me over and made me look an absolute buffoon in front of the majority of the community, but talking about purposely trying to offend people? Trampling over the day of remembrance? I feel sometimes people look  into things too much and it only causes more hassle, it's as if they are looking to make something out of nothing. If i truly have offended some people that much then i can only apologize again and take whatever punishment is expected of me but i can hold my head high knowing that nothing malicious was intended. 

 

[Mr Cardoso]

Mistakes happen, if people didn't have any respect for it they would not appear in the ceremony.

Chill out, this guys did a lot and still do towards this community.

 

[Fuel]

1 person dead yes i can understand a misfiring of the weapon... But 12 civilians and 3 medics dead. I call that a massacre!

In my eyes the police shamed themselves today and should hang their heads low!

I don't have it recorded for I was in shock but I did get the count of the dead. Im sorry if I am wrong in them numbers but they cannot be far off (maybe one or two). That still is little excuse.

Dr. Mystery

it was not 12 cvivillians and 3 medics.

it was an accident by a couple of officers who had double clicked alt, and forgot to unclick it if you are really upset by it I dont think you really get the idea of a rememberance parade.

i have done 13 of these parades in real life.

stop your whinning

this is a game the officers at least made the effort to be in the parade.

 

[Vladic Ka]

Fortunately we had our awesome NHS on the scene to patch up the guys who were shot accidentally.

As a current serving member of the armed forces who has recently served in Afghanistan I did not react well when this happened and I think I conveyed my feelings to the guys who messed up on TS. All parties apologized at the time and I will ensure the other officer involved will post here. If anyone still feels that they have been wronged I will personally speak to you so you can convey any misgivings over teamspeak.

 

[Liquid]

I don't think this should of been brought up on forums and over exaggerated as it has been. If you had a problem or you were offended you should of spoke to the higher officers. Not plaster it all over forums with a heading like that.

Also by saying the police did It for a few seconds amusement? Accusations like that shouldn't be thrown around if you're not entirely sure yourself what had actually happened. I understand you were potentially offended by what happened, and rightly so, but before you spout off on how disrespectful the police force is on this server make sure you get your information correct first.

Naming and shaming these officers and generalising the police force is very petty in my opinion. Yesterday a medic revived me and ran off. No role play. I noticed he was a medic in training so I ignored it and carried on. I didn't make a post saying how all the medics on this server don't role play and are shit. As they aren't.

Forgive me for the rant but this topic really picked at me.

 

[Mystery]

Please stop saying "police" when it was in fact two policemen out of 30. Thank you. 

Police are still police! Your welcome.

it was not 12 cvivillians and 3 medics.

it was an accident by a couple of officers who had double clicked alt, and forgot to unclick it if you are really upset by it I dont think you really get the idea of a rememberance parade.

i have done 13 of these parades in real life.

stop your whinning

this is a game the officers at least made the effort to be in the parade.

I understand the point of a remembrance parade surely, I myself have done 19 of them in the past. I understand them perfectly!

Rightly so they should have made the effort but to have a balls up like that is shocking! Poor performance.

I know not all police are bad but the ones involved (apologies to the one who already said sorry) but the two shooters as such really let the side down on your part.

I have the utmost respect for the police (both IRL and In-game), and normally I wouldnt kick up a fuss but the timing of this could not have been worse.

You done my interview, I am quite a level headed guy but the fact that no-one came down to talk to us about it was poor.

I have reviewed where I got the numbers from and I think it was people getting kicked due to lag and seeing their names pop up.

Sorry I got the numbers wrong.

Fortunately we had our awesome NHS on the scene to patch up the guys who were shot accidentally.

As a current serving member of the armed forces who has recently served in Afghanistan I did not react well when this happened and I think I conveyed my feelings to the guys who messed up on TS. All parties apologized at the time and I will ensure the other officer involved will post here. If anyone still feels that they have been wronged I will personally speak to you so you can convey any misgivings over teamspeak.

Unfortunately we did not have our first aid kits on us as they were left in the vehicles (which got deleted by admins).

I heard no apology coming from the police at the time, neither in-game nor TS. If they did then thats great, happy days but an officer could easily have come down to the NHS channel to also apologize.

I would like to speak with you on TS at some stage regarding this. I'm sure you have grasped how annoyed and upset this has left me.

I don't think this should of been brought up on forums and over exaggerated as it has been. If you had a problem or you were offended you should of spoke to the higher officers. Not plaster it all over forums with a heading like that.

Also by saying the police did It for a few seconds amusement? Accusations like that shouldn't be thrown around if you're not entirely sure yourself what had actually happened. I understand you were potentially offended by what happened, and rightly so, but before you spout off on how disrespectful the police force is on this server make sure you get your information correct first.

Naming and shaming these officers and generalising the police force is very petty in my opinion. Yesterday a medic revived me and ran off. No role play. I noticed he was a medic in training so I ignored it and carried on. I didn't make a post saying how all the medics on this server don't role play and are shit. As they aren't.

Forgive me for the rant but this topic really picked at me.

Forums are where disputes happen...

How can I speak to higher officers? For all I knew they gave the order? An absurd thought but then so is shooting people on Remembrance Sunday.

As for the heading I thought I was quite reserved to be honest!

I know what happened... Bottom line I was shot among others when trying to pay my respects!

I have name NO-ONE! I simply stated POLICE!

Did he revive you when you were trying to pay your respects? Was it an event he was reviving you at? He was a medic in training... Not an experience and trained officer! Big difference and cannot really compare the two...!

Rant forgiven! It has picked at me too.

Except it's not more than a misfire, it's a plain and simple accident, what is with the drama bait like seriously?

They both apologized for it straight away, Nozeinho used double alt to move the head and to take photos. Not sure about Fabrizio, most likely the same thing.

Drama bait? Hardly!

I am expressing my opinion. Sorry that its not to your satisfaction... Everyone has the right to their opinion and this is mine!

Except they haven't both apologized. I have seen one apology (thanks again to that officer).

Dr. Mystery

 

[FriendlyFireGuy]

OK it's done and dusted, chill out, what more do you want from them. Believe me when I say a tongue lashing from Vladic is more than appropriate.

Accidents happen, we all have them.

 

[Mystery]

OK it's done and dusted, chill out, what more do you want from them. Believe me when I say a tongue lashing from Vladic is more than appropriate.

Accidents happen, we all have them.

An apology to the medics and civilians would suffice.

I am chilled out, I could rant on all day about this and its morals but I won't.

I am also allowed to express my feelings about this matter.

I will speak to Officer Vladic and the two Officers involved on TS as Officer Vladic has offered and smooth things over.

I will also be requesting another medic to join me as witness on that talk (of whom I will ask later).

I feel I have not overstepped the mark at all on this. Ok I got the numbers wrong but I have said where I think that came from. Please forgive me for that bit.

Dr. Mystery

 

[Fuel]

Police are still police! Your welcome.

I understand the point of a remembrance parade surely, I myself have done 19 of them in the past. I understand them perfectly!

Rightly so they should have made the effort but to have a balls up like that is shocking! Poor performance.

I know not all police are bad but the ones involved (apologies to the one who already said sorry) but the two shooters as such really let the side down on your part.

I have the utmost respect for the police (both IRL and In-game), and normally I wouldnt kick up a fuss but the timing of this could not have been worse.

You done my interview, I am quite a level headed guy but the fact that no-one came down to talk to us about it was poor.

I have reviewed where I got the numbers from and I think it was people getting kicked due to lag and seeing their names pop up.

Sorry I got the numbers wrong.

Unfortunately we did not have our first aid kits on us as they were left in the vehicles (which got deleted by admins).

I heard no apology coming from the police at the time, neither in-game nor TS. If they did then thats great, happy days but an officer could easily have come down to the NHS channel to also apologize.

I would like to speak with you on TS at some stage regarding this. I'm sure you have grasped how annoyed and upset this has left me.

Forums are where disputes happen...

How can I speak to higher officers? For all I knew they gave the order? An absurd thought but then so is shooting people on Remembrance Sunday.

As for the heading I thought I was quite reserved to be honest!

I know what happened... Bottom line I was shot among others when trying to pay my respects!

I have name NO-ONE! I simply stated POLICE!

Did he revive you when you were trying to pay your respects? Was it an event he was reviving you at? He was a medic in training... Not an experience and trained officer! Big difference and cannot really compare the two...!

Rant forgiven! It has picked at me too.

Drama bait? Hardly!

I am expressing my opinion. Sorry that its not to your satisfaction... Everyone has the right to their opinion and this is mine!

Except they haven't both apologized. I have seen one apology (thanks again to that officer).

Dr. Mystery

you have done 19 of them? your 24 years old if my math is correct you started when you was 5?

 

[Vladic Ka]

This will be sorted by me later. No more officers should get involved.

 

[Mystery]

you have done 19 of them? your 24 years old if my math is correct you started when you was 5?

Correct! I was part of a youth organization when I was 5 years old and have been part on a youth service since (different ones over the years but all attend Remembrance Sunday!)

 

[Mystery]

This will be sorted by me later. No more officers should get involved.

If you do not mind I would like the two Officers involved to be present?

I would also have a medic of my choosing there as witness, they wont speak!

 

[Walt]

Hello gents. So sorry you've had to witness such tragic mishaps during an event that we all tried to carry out with the utmost respect. I can understand how it looks from your perspective and how angry/upset you must be over what you saw. However, I can promise you that all Police that day tried their best and what happened was a horrendous incident that was never supposed to happen. During the 2 minutes silence, I can promise you every member of the Police sat there in silence (as I am sure everyone did, I'm just letting you know that we did too) with no comms in either game chat or TS.

As the Rifle salute began, I am afraid to say that yes, 2 Officers had double tapped alt so that they can look around freely (recording purposes I believe) and had forgotten to correct it before the actual firing of their weapons leading them to shoot and kill 2 people each. Again, this was a poor mistake and I can assure you both Officers apologized immediately whilst both Vladic and Ciaran conveyed their thoughts on what had just happened and it was decided to try and keep the salute going.

Again, I can understand your emotions are running high at this point as it would have looked like a very poor display of respect but I must admit, I feel you've insulted a lot of Officers in this thread with your accusation this was done for a few seconds of fun, as if we all had a "lol jk" moment. And then when that was pointed out by Liquid, to suggest Higher Officers gave the order. I understand your frustration but to show a total lack of respect and understanding towards a whole team and continue to think this was some how a planned joke and done on purpose and that everyone in the Police had some sort of a laugh is pretty poor. You must honestly think low of us beforehand to not even provide some sort of benefit of the doubt that what happened was a terrible mistake.

Regarding the Police not talking in chat, that was because of the lag. Regarding the Police not attempting to communicate and apologize in TS, that was because the event continued and we were unable to tab out and speak, for that I apologize. I think by the time the event had finished, we'd all swept it under the rug. Obviously if people have issue, airing it is great, but I do think that it's a poor show to think that this incident was carried out for some sort of joke.

To conclude. I hope your talk with Vladic gives you resolution you are wanting and I hope that this can all be forgotten at some point in the future. But I was there to pay my respect as was everyone else, and am disgusted that you think myself and follow Officers would allow this to happen intentionally for some sort of a giggle.

All the best,

 

[Vladic Ka]

If you do not mind I would like the two Officers involved to be present?

I would also have a medic of my choosing there as witness, they wont speak!

This is not an investigation. We know exactly what has happened. I just wanted to speak to you because you don't want to accept that it was a complete accident for some reason. You can have who you like there.

 

[Liquid]

Even if the officers did give the order (which they of course didn't and is a ridiculously offensive and bold statement to make) still generalising the police as a whole for this one fuck up, saying you're ashamed to of just been accepted is still just absurd in my eyes. The bottom line of what I'm saying is, you still could of contacted Vlad or God or whoever was there and asked for an apology which you obviously would of received. Instead of this shit storm on the forum.

 

[Mystery]

How can I speak to higher officers? For all I knew they gave the order? An absurd thought but then so is shooting people on Remembrance Sunday.

As I have stated there I said it was an absurd thought, Not actually saying the order was given, Sorry that was not worded better. But from an outsiders point of view and without any communication from the police after the event had finished that is how it could have looked!

In no way am I saying it actually was given, I am pretty sure that would not have been allowed.

Hello gents. So sorry you've had to witness such tragic mishaps during an event that we all tried to carry out with the utmost respect. I can understand how it looks from your perspective and how angry/upset you must be over what you saw. However, I can promise you that all Police that day tried their best and what happened was a horrendous incident that was never supposed to happen. During the 2 minutes silence, I can promise you every member of the Police sat there in silence (as I am sure everyone did, I'm just letting you know that we did too) with no comms in either game chat or TS.

As the Rifle salute began, I am afraid to say that yes, 2 Officers had double tapped alt so that they can look around freely (recording purposes I believe) and had forgotten to correct it before the actual firing of their weapons leading them to shoot and kill 2 people each. Again, this was a poor mistake and I can assure you both Officers apologized immediately whilst both Vladic and Ciaran conveyed their thoughts on what had just happened and it was decided to try and keep the salute going.

Again, I can understand your emotions are running high at this point as it would have looked like a very poor display of respect but I must admit, I feel you've insulted a lot of Officers in this thread with your accusation this was done for a few seconds of fun, as if we all had a "lol jk" moment. And then when that was pointed out by Liquid, to suggest Higher Officers gave the order. I understand your frustration but to show a total lack of respect and understanding towards a whole team and continue to think this was some how a planned joke and done on purpose and that everyone in the Police had some sort of a laugh is pretty poor. You must honestly think low of us beforehand to not even provide some sort of benefit of the doubt that what happened was a terrible mistake.

Regarding the Police not talking in chat, that was because of the lag. Regarding the Police not attempting to communicate and apologize in TS, that was because the event continued and we were unable to tab out and speak, for that I apologize. I think by the time the event had finished, we'd all swept it under the rug. Obviously if people have issue, airing it is great, but I do think that it's a poor show to think that this incident was carried out for some sort of joke.

To conclude. I hope your talk with Vladic gives you resolution you are wanting and I hope that this can all be forgotten at some point in the future. But I was there to pay my respect as was everyone else, and am disgusted that you think myself and follow Officers would allow this to happen intentionally for some sort of a giggle.

All the best,

Walt I hold you in the highest regards as do I with each member of the police individually and in fact the police as a whole.

But I was speaking regarding the incident alone and the fact that nothing was said about it.

I have just spoke to you on this in TS though and I feel that we are clear on things so I won't go into too much on this post about it.

This is not an investigation. We know exactly what has happened. I just wanted to speak to you because you don't want to accept that it was a complete accident for some reason. You can have who you like there.

Thats fine its not an investigation.

All I want to do now is speak with yourself and the two officers involved and my witness will stay silent. After that all will be done and dusted, Forgiven and forgotten!

Even if the officers did give the order (which they of course didn't and is a ridiculously offensive and bold statement to make) still generalising the police as a whole for this one fuck up, saying you're ashamed to of just been accepted is still just absurd in my eyes. The bottom line of what I'm saying is, you still could of contacted Vlad or God or whoever was there and asked for an apology which you obviously would of received. Instead of this shit storm on the forum.

As stated above I never said the order was given I merely said thats how it could have looked.

I was speaking in the heat of the moment as I have alot of family in the military both past and present and I have been in a military organization for 10 years myself. Recently just out but still keep in touch with them.

Again the forum is where this "shit" should happen because this is where disputes are settled. A channel full of officers is quite intimidating to be honest! I also would not have known who to talk to as I do not fully know the police ranks system. I have asked for a forum post to be made on this but I am yet to see one. If one has been made and I havent noticed it yet then someone please feel free to point it out to me.

I should maybe have spoken to officers first for which I must agree but again as stated before I didnt know who and how to approach this.

Dr. Mystery

 

[Akhmed (AK)]

Okay i Think every thing has come clear that a DI and a PCSO myself shot 2 persons and as explained it Was due to dubbing tabbing alt, i Will upload the episode and edit my post in here when that is done, and it Will be on latest 20:00 since i am on Work at this moment, agian we all apoligize for the episode which never should have happened. I even compensated the person i killed by almost the double amount of lost gear. And medical fines

Edit

Okay so i were going through every single clip i had, and it seems that i only have the recording until the 2 minute silence, which means i do not have the part where the civilians get's shot.

I will be happy to upload the other parts, so you actually can see that my character is locked, and my view is free which caused the accident. but let me know first and i will be happy to upload that part.