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IAaronI

IAaronI

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Hi

Firstly I wanted to say that I’ve never posted an open discussion thread so I hope I’ve posted in the right place . If not please do correct me .

I saw today’s update and I thought this change to crim life and the gang culture as whole is quite large. Personally I think this may be a poor decision as existing white listed gangs have a great amount of support through resources such as cutting bench’s and gus ; hence putting such a cap on non established groups may be detrimental to the growth and development of new storylines I think the server desperately needs

Once again I’m no professional and I just wanna hear opinions from both sides for the change :)
 
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Cutting non-whitelisted gangs to a 15 man limit is one final kick in the teeth for gangs on the server.
 
This is something that definitely has/will hinder groups that are not gangs such as S18. With us being an organisation/working group, we're going to be unable to recruit & grow now until we are whitelisted. Granted, this is something we're actively working towards & gives us yet another incentive to get whitelisted, but until that time comes, our growth in terms of members would need to halt.

I definitely understand the need for something like this to prevent something like Nepp mentioned though.
 
Was talked about before and there was a lot of good points

Changing the gang cap.

Brief Summary: I have noticed since i have came back the decline in the gang/group scene as a whole is very very much dying out, you see less gangs now a days, and if you do see some, you see very few, i think currently in the server like 2 or 3 gangs you will see about from time to time...
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Samuel Shire said:
surely its because as a smaller group you have to prove your RP is good enough to get WL then you get more, opposed to grab 25 and go out to war
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yh I get this point but if we aree being honest a more realer possablity is rather than non whitelisted gangs fighting WL gangs they may just chose to fight other non WL groups. I think this may be the case but for a long time it has been seen that the group who wins the most fights is the 'best group' in the city.

I agree gang RP quality has been on the decline but I think WL gnags need action first and it may have a trickle down effect on non WL groups (I.E sanction WL groups who log in only to frag and reward gangs who provide genuniley good RP)
 
IAaronI said:
but for a long time it has been seen that the group who wins the most fights is the 'best group' in the city.
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Which is how it really shouldn't be to be honest and whitelisted gangs who have provided the roleplay to get whitelisted should have a advantage if came to who is the better gang if it was just down to fights, IMO this change is very good and will encourage more gangs to be created and whitelisted gangs being selective with who they recruit
 
BaldyDerek said:
This is something that definitely has/will hinder groups that are not gangs such as S18. With us being an organisation/working group, we're going to be unable to recruit & grow now until we are whitelisted. Granted, this is something we're actively working towards & gives us yet another incentive to get whitelisted, but until that time comes, our growth in terms of members would need to halt.

I definitely understand the need for something like this to prevent something like Nepp mentioned though.
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Yh it's a hard one maybe if a group who doesn't want to be a gang but just wants to be a Organisation/working group puts in a ticket and asks for more space on F6. Just an idea idk if it's even possible. But saying that u could have gangs lie for more space but S18 are doing great imo so i dont think you would be waiting mush longer for whitelising imo. I think it's a great update only allowing non whitelist gangs 15 in F6 might stop them changing gang every 2 minutes and having an frag mentality.
 
Martle said:
Yh it's a hard one maybe if a group who doesn't want to be a gang but just wants to be a Organisation/working group puts in a ticket and asks for more space on F6. Just an idea idk if it's even possible. But saying that u could have gangs lie for more space but S18 are doing great imo so i dont think you would be waiting mush longer for whitelising imo. I think it's a great update only allowing non whitelist gangs 15 in F6 might stop them changing gang every 2 minutes and having an frag mentality.
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As far as the code is concerned, we can override the limit for any group.

If development / leads decide a group is ready to progress past the 15 it can be done really easily.
 
Mike Polo said:
As far as the code is concerned, we can override the limit for any group.

If development / leads decide a group is ready to progress past the 15 it can be done really easily.
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So one could say we can take this as an introduction of a some what stage system like other servers have ?
 
Samuel Shire said:
surely its because as a smaller group you have to prove your RP is good enough to get WL then you get more, opposed to grab 25 and go out to war
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While I agree with this, hopefully the process to become whitelisted will be faster as well. I know of groups, including my own, going strong for over a year, even 1.5 years atm and not being whitelisted. I think that should be the other end of this change. It does limit non-gang groups like S18 mentioned above here. For gangs however I do agree. But I've said this before and will say it again; where do we draw the line? Who is a gang and who is a group? It's impossible.

I do agree with the core of the change though, but hopefully management also takes other factors into account.
 
Technically with this system is this now not a 15 person group rather than gang 🤔
 
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