Parim (originally a report on TKC/TI that backfired)

[hattu]

Name of the person you are reporting (in-game name): [TI] Ben, [TI] Robert, [TKC] RyaanDunne
 
Time & Date this happened: 18/04/2015   ~12:00 o'clock
 
Which Server did this happen on: Server 1
 
Description of what happened: TI guys were doing weed run with 3 hemtt's. We met them first time when we were leaving weed field. When we got to weed processing we were there processing weed ~3 minutes before TI guys came to processing place. We had little gunfight with them and shot all of them. We lost one guy. We picklocked all hemtt's and we processed all weed that there were.
 
When we were almost ready (20-30 minutes later) my friend onetwo spotted one guy when he was moving truck away from weed processing. Onetwo ziptied that guy, just moment after that i got shot one time. (i still was alive.) I managed to escape with one hemm't but onetwo was shot by [TI] Ben. Later it got stuck ~1km away from weed processing. Finally i got shot buy [TI] Ben when they tried to take that hemtt that was stuck. (in this situation i shot them first because my other friend parim was shot by TI just couple minutes ago when parim was following their trucks.(he shot tires of those trucks))
 
What Rule Was Broken ?:
5C)[SIZE=medium] You are not allowed to seek revenge when you die![/SIZE]
5A)[SIZE=medium] A new life starts, when[/SIZE]
Your character has died in a RP situation.

 
Have you tried to resolve with the player before posting?: No, i only spoke with TI Ben and asked what was that.
  
Please post video evidence/screenshots here
(This is almost a must! without this you have no solid evidence, If your report is about RDM then it must be a video leading upto the RDM and after)
 
I have video about this situation (only problem is that video is 600x800 so whole sidechat is not showing.)
 
I took some screenshots from video, if those are enough (i can upload video if needed (45 minutes long)
 
TI and TKC trying to rob us at weed processing.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3eix4CAO2I
 
TKC RyaanDunne taken as hostage and TI members shooting later.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9pzqyK5_Lc
 
 
[TKC] RyaanDunne

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[TI] Ben

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OneTwo ziptied one guy

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Couple seconds later

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At last i got shot by TI Ben

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I asked [TI] Ben to explain what happened

Our 15 mins was  and we had been told there was trucks at the weed processor by a  police officer

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Then i spoke with police officer who came to weed processing while we were processing weed.

only kilo victor 2

We reporting you at dispacth: Kilo victor 2, this is Kilo victor 1, we have some guys at the weed prossesing, we are engaging

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I spoke with emil poulsen who was in kilo victor 2 at the moment.
 

no we dit not tak to them

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So my conclusion is that TI didn't spoke with cops to get back to weed processing to save their trucks and weed.

I'll let admins decide what is going to happed.

Note: i can upload video if needed 

 

[andmos1]

Sorry or the caps lock by the way. And for editing the repot towards this:

Me and my partner was going on patrol to check if anyone was in the weed prossesing. We saw a lot of trucks parked in there and I sent a report to Kilo victor 2 that we have someone in the weed prossesing and we are engaging. Sadly, my partner had to go all guns blazing on the rebels and went loud in the sirens, even if I said no sirens. The rebels quickly surrounded us and we had to submit towards them and give up our weapons. We was zip tied because we interfered with their "business" and after 4-6 min they released my partner while I was still zip tied in the veucle. After the usual treat of shooting any PD in sight, we leaved to regroup with the PC that just logged in. We did not revive any reports on the 999 or personal messages saying that their are some guys in the weed prossesing. We where only there to patrol around to see if anyone was doing weed.

Report sent

PCSO andmos

 

[Robert H]

If you're gonna report me at least upload the part where you completely metagamed me and shot me in the face because of my TI tag.

EDIT: As Ben said, you actually RDM'ed me, so my new life didn't really start. Me and Ryan came from the road, and Ben came some time after us from the mountains, how can you know we're with him when we take 2 completely different routes and come at different times? You blatantly RDM'ed me, and now you're sitting here reporting us. I can only laugh at this report.

- [TI] Robert

 

[Ben_Banned]

When you're reporting people you usually need viable evidence and I fail to see anything here right now that incriminates us, and like Robert said if you're going to post the video make sure you do post the part where you practically RDM'd him, when I engaged he was processing his weed and you shot him for no reason when you had no rights to because you've no idea if you knew he was with me or not.

 

[Parim1441]

@TI Robert You and your friends were shot because you tried robbing us, which we don't really like, so we had to defend ourself, cause we don't really like to get robbed, so we shot you, then you started whining we're terrible people and whatnot

@TI Ben First time today, we met you at the weed field, you guys came in 3 hemmt boxes when we were driving off, then you guys came at the weed processing with the same hemmt boxes and tried robbing us.

 

[Robert H]

Allright listen up. Ben came from over the mountains 2-3 minutes LATER than me and Ryan. We came from the road, he came from the mountains LATER than us, 2 different routes allright? He then initiated after comming later than us, while I had my gun lowered and processing and that's when you decided to shoot me for no reason, how did you know we where with him? Metagaming, thats how.

4B) You are not allowed to identify players in game via nametags. Police, NHS and UNMC ranks (only ranks!) are fine to get, as they “wear clothing with the rank on” unless they are undercover. (Not in their uniform or masked.)

4C) Using tilde key for anything other than identifying people who break rules

Also, I wanted to do my weed and store the money with no intentions of robbing anyone. Ben came over the mountains and did his own thing while I just wanted to do my weed. Suddenly I get shot with no words said towards me.

3B) RDM - Random Death Match Definition:

Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban)

Also, why did you decide to take screenshots OUT of a video? Trying to hide evidence? I'd like to see the video added to your report so everyone can see how I died personally. 

Before any admin makes a decision I think it's only fair that you post the entire video of the event.

 

[Parim1441]

@TI Robert The first time you guys came, you came all three at the same time.

 

[Robert H]

@Parim1441 Does that mean that I'm affiliated with Ben's decision to rob you?

 

[Parim1441]

@TI Robert You enaged us as a group, you anwser towards us as a group.

 

[Robert H]

@Parim1441 I'm sorry what? Ben said he was gonna do a weed run, and I though yea sure, I'll go with him. He decded to rob you, I didn't. I don't really get your point there, so if I see a group of guys and one of them shoots at me, I can just start spraying all of them down even though it was only that one guys decision?

 

[Parim1441]

@TI Robert You reasons are stupid, same is the logic you're fallowing here.

If we obviously know you're with the guys that came there, you pose as a threat to us, and our buisness.

Your friend decided to rob us, you have to face the consequences.

 

[Robert H]

@TI Robert You reasons are stupid, same is the logic you're fallowing here.

If we obviously know you're with the guys that came there, you pose as a threat to us, and our buisness.

Your friend decided to rob us, you have to face the consequences.

You wouldn't know we where friends though! Thats called metagaming my friend, we could just be 2 strangers doing a run at the same time.

 

[hattu]

First post updated with 2 video clips that i cut out from 45 minutes long video (it is going to take ages for me to render and upload that video so i hope this is enough evidence now)

You wouldn't know we where friends though!

That is true. But problem is not that. Ben initiated RP when you guys robbed us. There were at least 2 of you pointing guns at us so we are not going to ask anything before shooting. Also you are involved to that situation when you are in same "group" with those 2 other guys (meaning that you came to weed processing with them)

END OF DISCUSS

ADMIN WILL DECIDE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN

 

[Robert H]

Can we maybe get a video from Parim's perspective so we can see him RDM'ing/metagaming me? If thats not possible you might as well remove my name from this report since it's impossible for the admins to clarify wether or not he RDM'ed me, and check if I REALLY broke NLR.

The first video you uploaded is basicly a report on Parim. Firstly he metagamed by giving away positions while being dead, so why not metagame my TI tag? He also called Ben the N word. That first video just proves my point, Parim is a metagamer, he saw my TI tag and shot me.

 

[Ben_Banned]

Your first video.


So from 37 seconds onward in this video you can hear Parim I believe.

He killed me he killed me he's behind, omfg kill him, fuck this n*****.

Also I believe at the end of this clip also you say "Wait I'm going to see teamspeak, let's metagame a bit.

So in the first video of your evidence we have.

2 Counts of Metagaming.

1 Count of Racism.

So if you want to continue to upload this "evidence" you're welcome to keep incriminating yourselves.

And your second video


4:49 "They're on me I am killed I am killed by TI Ben"

5:03 "On my spot 2 guys kill them both"

and from 5:20 Onwards you're continuing to give out info about truck locations after you have died.

So that's another 3 Counts of metagaming.

I am looking forward to your next video.

-TI Ben

 

[Neo]

Parim: Ban Issued:

He killed me he killed me he's behind, omfg kill him, fuck this n*****.

Also I believe at the end of this clip also you say "Wait I'm going to see teamspeak, let's metagame a bit.

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TI and TKC, you need to sort yourselves out a bit in this.

When you're reporting people you usually need viable evidence and I fail to see anything here right now that incriminates us, and like Robert said if you're going to post the video make sure you do post the part where you practically RDM'd him, when I engaged he was processing his weed and you shot him for no reason when you had no rights to because you've no idea if you knew he was with me or not.

Thing is, lets say you have, 2 TI around you, 1 starts to shoot, you don't shoot the one doing nothing, then he kills you, it'd be RDM the other way around... 

There's not enough solid evidence to ban TI in this instance.

Sorry... original report rejected. Parim is banned.