WarlordNaruto (Rejected - BH changes on the way)

[Dir. Connor Portsmouth]

Name of the person you are reporting (in-game name): Warlord Naruto 
 
Time & Date this happened: Last couple of days, screenshots as of roughly 5PM 28/10/2014
 
Description of what happened: metagamed, abused our gang members over direct comms despite us having nothing to do with him, knocked out and restrained gang members in teh kavala garage green zone.
 
Have you tried to resolve with the player before posting?: Multiple times approached bounty hunters and told them this is against the rules, and have had many arguments about it. These are regular occurences on the server, and this is purely just the first bounty hunter ive recorded.
  
Please post video evidence/screenshots here
(This is almost a must! without this you have no solid evidence)
Frame 1: Naruto has stunned a gang member inside the kavala green zone

These screenshots are in a very muddled order, though it's very clear as to what is occuring here. Naruto has restrained our member after knocking him out for the second time, and is taking him to his vehicle, where he places him inside and then removes him before verbally abusing us over direct communications. It can be noted that azman is his accomplice throughout, and is usually present with Naruto, though I have no image or video proof of him breaking bounty hunter rules at any time.

 

[DainMK]

I actually asked a DI about the Green Zone and Bounty Hunters operating there and he suggested that it was allowed. If this is the case I would like it changed, it should be a safe place for all. If an admin can clarify rules I'd appreciate it.

Sorry for butting in on a report I'm not involved in, just thought it relevant. 

 

[Dir. Connor Portsmouth]

I actually asked a DI about the Green Zone and Bounty Hunters operating there and he suggested that it was allowed. If this is the case I would like it changed, it should be a safe place for all. If an admin can clarify rules I'd appreciate it.

Sorry for butting in on a report I'm not involved in, just thought it relevant. 

I've had the police agree with me that it is against the rules (a Sergeant, PC & DI to be specific), and the rules are quite specific in what the green zones are for. Since the action of arresting/restraining wasn't being carried out by a police officer, and since it was intended for trolling purposes, I'm 100% confident that this is in violation of the server's rules.

 

[puppy1004]

Rule 4A: Safe Zones

VDM = Instant Ban (We have a anti VDM script however running people over for run is banable and considered VDM)

Killing = Instant Ban, No killing in the safezone... no killing from outside the safezone if someone is inside it and no killing people outside the safezone from the safezone.

Robbing = You are not allowed to rob a person who is inside the greenzone, these are considered safe heavens for players to meet and have friendly meets/chats

Flying = You may land in the greenzone however, The police will send any choppers found to the crusher, Landing in the greenzone is against the server law (not rules), The police will however open fire.

Weapons = Your weapon must be holstered inside the greenzone, If not then you will not doubt get in a spot of trouble by the police.

Police Stations = The police stations are police spawn points therefore are marked in blue, Any killing here will result in a ban.

VIP/Donator area = This is a safezone all the rules above apply to this area.

Don't see anything about arresting, but I personally think that its more of a common sence that arresting people in greenzone isn't accepted by the community.

 

[Lucas]

He also meta gamed me after I executed him, by killing me and my friend

 

[PeachMaster]

For police officers a safe zone does not exist, we have alot of people running to the safe zone thinking we cant enter it, they are so wrong.... 

We have non-lethal weapons, so we can taze,arrest and move him back to he HQ for proccesing, 

So i'm guessing this applies to Bounty Hunters as well?

We never EVER, engage a criminal in the safe zone of course, but if we are in persuit and he decides to take shelter in a safe zone we do continue or pursuit.... 

 

[Guest]

yes i am his accomplice and i do not agree with the shambles of what went on at that time. but as a bounty hunter all you get to work with is a name.  when he has approached to question you he has always been in rp and you guys straight away go out of rp and start shouting meta game i would like to discuss this one incident with an admin before a decision is made.    

 

[Dir. Connor Portsmouth]

For police officers a safe zone does not exist, we have alot of people running to the safe zone thinking we cant enter it, they are so wrong.... 

We have non-lethal weapons, so we can taze,arrest and move him back to he HQ for proccesing, 

So i'm guessing this applies to Bounty Hunters as well?

We never EVER, engage a criminal in the safe zone of course, but if we are in persuit and he decides to take shelter in a safe zone we do continue or pursuit.... 

I have absolutely no problem with police officers continuing to chase those abusing safe zones, it's even mentioned in the rules that abusing them by running into them isn't acceptable! My problem in this case is that bounty hunters are explicitly told not to use their powers for anything other than their job as a bounty hunter. They merely are civilians with powers over those with a bounty- which none of my friends had. Moreover, since they are not police officers, they still have to abide with green zone rules. None of my friends were chased into this area, we were simply organizing an oil run when he approached us and started an argument. 

To concluce then: He's broken the 

 

[Dir. Connor Portsmouth]

For police officers a safe zone does not exist, we have alot of people running to the safe zone thinking we cant enter it, they are so wrong.... 

We have non-lethal weapons, so we can taze,arrest and move him back to he HQ for proccesing, 

So i'm guessing this applies to Bounty Hunters as well?

We never EVER, engage a criminal in the safe zone of course, but if we are in persuit and he decides to take shelter in a safe zone we do continue or pursuit.... 

I have absolutely no problem with police officers continuing to chase those abusing safe zones, it's even mentioned in the rules that abusing them by running into them isn't acceptable! My problem in this case is that bounty hunters are explicitly told not to use their powers for anything other than their job as a bounty hunter. They merely are civilians with powers over those with a bounty- which none of my friends had. Moreover, since they are not police officers, they still have to abide with green zone rules. None of my friends were chased into this area, we were simply organizing an oil run when he approached us and started an argument. 

To concluce then: He's broken the 

 

[Guest]

actually one of your gang had a bounty and  marsbar pulled out a illegal firearm when the bounty hunter was trying to question him so he restrained him

 

[lionel]

yes i am his accomplice and i do not agree with the shambles of what went on at that time. but as a bounty hunter all you get to work with is a name. when he has approached to question you he has always been in rp and you guys straight away go out of rp and start shouting meta gae i would like to discuss this one incident with an admin before a decision is made.

That's why this post is here, say your piece and await a admin decision, it wouldn't be right to have half the argument behind closed doors

 

[Simon-]

I saw this guy spray a car I was chasing with his tazer without confirmation of who it was on any level, then had the idea of asking me if he could process him for me... consequently I said no, moved the guy away from the bounty hunter and let him go. Been having problems with a number of bounty hunters recently and this is just one name. 

Note to Wilco: Please drastically increase the price of the bounty hunter licence... something like £3,000,000 would be appropriate in my opinion, make this an end game thing rather than a fast way to make money with no RP for these guys

 

[Wilco]

Safezone is no safe heaven... if your wanted then the police and bounty hunters will engage you in that zone....

With that being said i have Ciaran working on a set of changes i want asap that will change the bounty hunter system which all will prefer.... news on this coming soon

for now i will reject this and when the new rules and system comes into play we will see what happens.