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Update on the GTX970 situation

nozeinho

nozeinho

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nozeinho said:
Because sadly like me and i'm sure many others, you trusted the manufacturer's specifications? 
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Well.... There goes the "bang for the buck"... just hoped i got the best card ever for my money... should've waited a lil longer and got a 980 ;_;

 
I highly doubt they will do anything. They have already stated that in the majority of situations there is no problem.... I am pretty sure that will be enough for them to ignore it and TBH if you're gaming @1080p then they're right. If you're gaming at a higher res... then why did you buy a 970 in the first place

 
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd it's confirmed: #980MASTERRACE

No, unless you're running obscenely high resolutions (if so, you should've bought the 980 anyway) this won't really be an issue. Seriously, who is running a setup higher than 2560x1440 here on a 970s?

 
@unconnected

It's not so much about the fact it cannot run things at the higher resolutions, 1080p is more than fine for me. It's more about the fact they initially said the 970 WOULD be able to do it, then it turns it it can't. Think of it as asking for a bacon sandwich and getting a sausage one instead, it's still a pig but not the kind of pig you wanted (weird analogy i know) . I imagine if it was more clearly stated about the limitations of the 970 i'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would have just put the extra cash in and got a 980 instead.  

 
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FriendlyFireGuy said:
I have one, I don't understand this stuff, does it mean my house will burn down in the night?
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All it basically means is that initially Nvidia said that the 970's would be capable of running games at 4k (although at a poor standard compared to that of the superior 980). It then turned out that this was wrong and basically if you try run your games at 4k, the 970 will shit it's pants and you will have severe frame drops etc. 

In essence if you read closely in the article it seems Nvidia knew about this prior to the release of the 970 but disguised it cleverly in the way they worded the specifications, hence the big uproar.

edit: this also means that when 4k becomes a regular day to day thing you will have to spend another 200-300 quid on yet another graphics card because the 970 will not support it. 

 
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Just ordered a EVGA 980 GTX like a boss B)

 
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nozeinho said:
@unconnected

It's not so much about the fact it cannot run things at the higher resolutions, 1080p is more than fine for me. It's more about the fact they initially said the 970 WOULD be able to do it, then it turns it it can't. Think of it as asking for a bacon sandwich and getting a sausage one instead, it's still a pig but not the kind of pig you wanted (weird analogy i know) . I imagine if it was more clearly stated about the limitations of the 970 i'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would have just put the extra cash in and got a 980 instead.  
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Honesty, I'm not sure which fool bought a 970 thinking they could play 4K games on it, even two 980s in SLI will struggle to get playable frame rates in some games (i.e. more than 30fps) at highest image quality settings at that resolution.

Buying the crippled version of the top card is always about making trade-offs and has been since time immemorial. In my opinion if you're striving to play games at 4K which is right at the bleeding edge in terms of what is possible right now - then you should be doing research and that research would've screamed out "don't buy a 970" for that resolution, in fact it would've said buy a R9 295X2.

And the card does indeed have 4GB of memory, it's just due to the crippling those last 512MB are slower to address, which again will affect only the people who shouldn't have bought the card in the first place.

You say you wouldn't have bought the card if you'd known about the issue beforehand, but I suspect that's just a kneejerk reaction and the vast majority of level headed people wouldn't agree, because the benchmarks at release still stand for the resolutions tested and unless you're running resolutions past 1440p it won't effect you.

 
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unconnected said:
Honesty, I'm not sure which fool bought a 970 thinking they could play 4K games on it, even two 980s in SLI will struggle to get playable frame rates in some games (i.e. more than 30fps) at highest image quality settings at that resolution.

Buying the crippled version of the top card is always about making trade-offs and has been since time immemorial. In my opinion if you're striving to play games at 4K which is right at the bleeding edge in terms of what is possible right now - then you should be doing research and that research would've screamed out "don't buy a 970" for that resolution, in fact it would've said buy a R9 295X2.

And the card does indeed have 4GB of memory, it's just due to the crippling those last 512MB are slower to address, which again will affect only the people who shouldn't have bought the card in the first place.

You say you wouldn't have bought the card if you'd known about the issue beforehand, but I suspect that's just a kneejerk reaction and the vast majority of level headed people wouldn't agree, because the benchmarks at release still stand for the resolutions tested and unless you're running resolutions past 1440p it won't effect you.
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Well, I did expect to play 4k on games like WoW and so on and that works completely fine. But still a little sad that Nvidia covered this up.

 
Ah that's OK, I don't care, as long as my house doesn't burn down.

 
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I don't believe it's a cover-up, they've been very forthcoming about it since the issue came to light. It's a pretty specific scenario in which the card loses performance and until you push it past 3.5GB there are no other issues and the card behaves fine.

They've also made it clear in a few tech forums that they will assist in refunds if your vendor refund window has closed, which I think is pretty nice of them considering the circumstances. Give me a shout if you need a link, I'll trawl my history to find them if needed.

 
still got my zotac GTX 980 amp hope i don't get problems with it but running most games are great with 1920x1080 ultra settings hope i did not just jinx myself

 
Not trying to stir in anyway at all but it doesn't only affect you with 4k gaming, triple screen setups will suffer as well.

And as games come out the texture cache is going to grow, e.g. Watchdogs performed horrifically on low memory cards to the point of unplayable.

But yeah I don't see much wrongdoing from nvidia they are owning up to it and offering a way to refund those hit with the issue, I can think of a few tech companies that fail massively on this front, a fruity logo comes to mind.

 
I just ordered msi gtx 970 gaming 4g

Is the problem a thing in that one?

 
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