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Unban Appeal - sam420 - GTA RP

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sam420

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Unban Appeal for sam420 

In-game Name: Sam Chong

Server: GTA RP

Steam ID: 76561198205332615

Ban ID: !!rpuk15078!!

Reason given for your ban: Player report - G3.1 (hop on) / C1.8

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.: I was banned for G3.1 (Hop on) and C1.8 because I logged into the server around the same time as my friends and also messaged in Discord for everyone with waps to fly in.

Why should we unban you ?: Firstly, I understand why these rules are in place and why they are important. These rules ensure that everyone has a fair and enjoyable experience while playing RPUK and that any and all interactions in RP have not been influenced by OOC information that may change the course of a sit.

I have been on this server for a very long time (coming up to 3 years in a couple of months) and this is the first time I have been banned. I want to mention that the only reason I wish to play on this server is to continue delivering high-quality roleplay stories for myself and others in the community. It's the reason I log in almost every day.

With regards to G3.1, I still stand by what I mentioned in my response to the report that we did not use information obtained OOC to influence our decision to "hop on". We had agreed earlier in the day that we would log on later that night and it just happened that there was an active sit when we did all fly in. I understand how this looks, especially given the other rule break which I will go into detail about later in this appeal. Still, I can assure you there was no intention of all hopping on to get involved with the situation where Abu had been kidnapped. We had logged back in over the course of 30 minutes or so, as we had agreed to earlier in the day, and were informed IC that Marabunta had kidnapped one of our gang members. I understand how this looks but this is the honest truth.

Now, onto the C1.8 - Forcing or encouraging other players to rule break. I sent a message in my discord @'ing everyone with waps to fly in. There is no justifying this and it was clearly a rule break. There is no excuse for this and I can only apologise. I do want to add that the intention of this message wasn't to necessarily help with the situation with Marabunta. We are in the process of documenting and making a video to show off the high level of roleplay The Alliance delivers on a day-to-day basis. We are making a video to tell the story of The Alliance, how we ended up in this beef with Marabunta, and the exciting and interesting situations in RP we get into. Part of this is using tools like Rockstar Editor for cinematics to enhance the storytelling in the video and I wanted everyone with guns to fly in to make the recordings for the video look good. At the time I did not think about how this would impact and influence the situation as all I was thinking about was how we could make the video as exciting as possible for the RPUK community. Once again, I understand that this is an obvious rule break and I hold my hands up to my mistake and apologise to Marabunta as I did not think about how this would impact their roleplay experience and was being selfish.

The intention of The Alliance, a group that myself, Alan Fish and Paul Fish lead, is to become a recognised group in the city, known for our high-quality roleplay and storylines in the city with other groups. It is not a group that we just put together to fight people. We really are trying to take this seriously and in doing so I have had more fun in the last month than I have in a long time. It feels like playing back in the day when I was new to the city. We have something to work towards and we all are having a lot of fun.

In my 3 years in the city, I have made some great friends and my level of roleplay has improved massively. This server is the only Fivem server I play and I am frustrated with myself that not only have I ruined my clean record, but I cannot play with my friends anymore. I have had great feedback OOC in the past about my standard of roleplay from whitelisted factions like The Police, The Firm, The Lost, and many other whitelisted gangs. I hold myself to a high standard and apologise for the mistake I made.

I appreciate staff have a job to do and I am by no means saying I shouldn't have been banned. I clearly broke a rule and understand I have to face the consequences of my actions. If you were to lift my ban and approve my appeal I can assure you that I will continue to carry out high quality.

Thank you for taking the time to read my appeal, please let me know if you have any queries about any of the points I've made.

Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 
Good afternoon, @sam420! I hope all is well with you this afternoon 🙂

Throughout all of these appeals, yet I've not had a single player give me an actual time you were heading on for a push on mara.
I've heard a lot of "We'll go on later", "We'll push tonight". 
Have you got any proof whatsoever of a specific time you were all meant to log on that evening for the push?

"We'll push tonight" means that it could be over the span of multiple hours yet you all logged on within 30 minutes.

 
Hi @Danoo,

Thanks for the swift response. I'm doing well mate, hope all is good on your side.

We clear our push times channel in Discord every day so I can't show you anything concrete to prove this, unfortunately. Most people reacted to the timeslot 20:30 so that's why we all flew in around then. This is an example of our #push-time channel from today. 

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Let me know if there's anything else you need 🙂

 
Good evening @sam420, thank you for the response! 🙂

I've been told so far that the push was planned for 20:30 on this particular evening. 
Why did you connect at 20:45, 15 minutes after the push was going to take place? Then further @everyone at 20:49 once you're online to come and hop on?

 
Hi @Danoo,

Thanks for coming back to me! 

The whole idea with the push times is to try to be ready for that time, it's not as strict as it may seem to be that exact time and if I'm being candid, I can't remember why I was 15 minutes late. I did not fly in to hop on, but understand that my actions and negligence have ended up with these rule breaks occurring.  

I completely understand I broke the rules in posting the message and after spending some time while banned to collect my thoughts on the situation, I understand now that the situation I entered after flying in was already ongoing due to Abu being kidnapped before I flew in and would be hop on. I can only apologise to Marabunta if this influenced and negatively impacted their roleplay experience. 

I try my best during all roleplay interactions and try to make sure that it is enjoyable for all parties involved in every situation hence why picking up this ban after almost 3 years with a clean record is so disappointing not only for myself, but I imagine for the staff too as this was such a stupid mistake to make after doing so well, for so long. 

I can assure you that if you considered approving my unban appeal, my usual high standard of RP would return and I will not make these same stupid mistakes again. I will reconsider entering a situation if I have recently flown in and will learn from my mistakes as I do not want to be in this situation again. My intention with helping lead The Alliance is to try to take the group to the next level through our continued high-quality RP and continue to develop my Sam Chong character through intricate roleplay scenarios and returning to leading a gang again and I can't wait to get back to it. 

Once again Danoo, I can only apologise for the mistakes I have made and accept the consequences of my actions. 

 
Good evening @sam420, I hope all is well! 🙂

I am asking this question for a reason, and I think you know why.
Please, be 100% honest with me now as this will determine how your appeal proceeds.

Was this "push channel" created specifically for these appeals, or has it been a thing in your Discord for a long time now?
Again, please be honest.

 
Hi @Danoo

Thanks again for replying so swiftly 🙂 I'm well, hope you're doing well too! 😃

I completely understand why you're asking the question and I can say with absolute honesty that the push-time channel has existed since our "beef" with Marabunta started. It is common practice in gang discord channels to have a push-time channel to determine what times people will be in the city to engage in RP with a rival gang. 

Below is another example of how the #push-times channel is used daily. 

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I promise you Danoo that after 3 years in this community and looking at 100s of unban appeals and reports, I understand that honesty is the best policy. I don't know what I can do to further prove this, but I hope my previous clean record, my feedback from staff and whitelisted factions about my high-quality roleplay, and my commitment and playtime in this server can be taken into account when deciding on whether or not to trust what I am saying. 

Lots of people have recently given up on the server and there are bans left right and centre for people being stupid and not caring - I am not one of those people and I want to continue playing RPUK and getting through this "slump" where a lot of people are giving up. After all, it is the only RP server I have played on FiveM and there is a reason for that.

I look forward to hearing back from you @Danooand if there is anything else I can do to assist with your decision-making, please let me know. 

 
Good evening @sam420, thank you for the response.

All of the screenshots I've been sent regarding your push channel so far show push times for the hour.
Example: 6pm, 7pm, 8pm, 9pm, 10pm etc. 
I've not seen in any of these screenshots a 6:30pm, 7:30pm.

How comes, on this specific day that we don't have screenshots for the hours are suddenly no longer on the hour but displaying 30 minutes into the hour?

 
Hi @Danoo

Thanks for your reply. 

You're correct, all the screenshots sent have been with hour timeslots, not half an hour. To be perfectly honest Danoo, it's really not as deep as it seems with the push times and it's not as structured as it's being made out to be. I completely understand why you want all this information so you can put the pieces together per say, but the push times aren't as strict as they may seem. The likelihood is that it wasn't Paul Fish (who has recently been posting them) who posted it at the time or it was posted later on than usual (after 6pm storm) so it was broken down into shorter timeframes. The day of the report was the first push we had planned and everyone was eager to get going with the RP so that will have played a factor too.   

I wish I had a simple answer for you to explain it Danoo but if you were to ask anyone in a gang discord that uses push times they will tell you that it is not as strict as this feels to be and it's common practice in gang discords to have these types of channels. It's not something I was expecting to have to recall details about days later so apologies for not having very clear-cut, concrete answers to stuff but I'd rather just be straight with you than make up a stupid excuse. 

I'm more than happy to continue answering any questions you have to the best of my ability to assist with your decision.

 
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Good Evening @sam420

I would just like to ask, how did sending out the @everyone message for what you've claimed to be a video now turn into it being a "planned push"? 

 
Hi @Jessie Bennett,

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I @'d everyone to get people in the city for the content for the video (unaware of the situation regarding Marabunta kidnapping Abu). The "planned push" you are referencing is the #push-times channel. This #push-times channel and the @'ing everyone are 2 different incidents, albeit within similar time frames. 

I appreciate there is a lot of information and it may be difficult to understand from the back-and-forth replies, but if you want me to explain in TS, I am more than happy to do so. 

Thanks. 

 
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Good evening @sam420!

I would like to say thank you for all of the responses so far, I know bans such as these can be a rather long process as we need to gather the information we need.
As you may imagine from our side of things, the connection times along with the time a message for hop on sent by yourself has clearly given enough for this ban!

The message sent out by you has clearly been an attempt to have people hop on the server for something happening in game which you have taken accountability for.
You're a long standing member within this community (Nearly 4 years) and this is the first ban you've acquired. 

Furthermore, may I suggest that you begin keeping logs of your push-time channel in case you may need to defend against a report again. Without any evidence it looks awfully suspicious and surely you don't need to wipe said channel each day.

I am willing to give you a second chance on the server, as this is indeed your first time in this section. 
Please learn from the mistake, and don't end up back here again for something so easily avoidable! Any ban you receive within the next 6 months will be a permanent.

UNBANNED

 
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