Unban Appeal - kipwilson - Community Banned

[kipwilson]

Unban Appeal for kipwilson 

In-game Name: Kip Wilson

Server: Community Banned

Steam ID: 76561198289655147

Ban ID: Unsure

Reason given for your ban: (C1.6)

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.: Hi RPUK Staff
I was banned for lacking common sense and being very immature over a period of time which resulted in myself getting a community ban. In these times it was summer and I was very intoxicated which Is not an excuse for my behavior. Simple terms I was not acting like an adult and its an adult community. Asking to be banned from the server at times cause I didn't want to go on and break a rule is stupid and shows i was not responsible to be part of the community.

Why should we unban you ?: I understand that the rules of the server are in place to maintain a safe place and enjoyable environment for all roleplayers. I feel I have come a long way since my ban and I enjoy roleplaying on the server. I don't believe my actions were on the server at the time mostly external in my opinion. I always gave 100% into the new character I created which came off a perm ban in 2021(I believe). I regret not being responsible for my actions at the time and after a few months looking back at it was just stupidity going forward I will be fully responsible for my actions.

Thanks for taking time to consider my appeal.

Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 

[Danoo]

Good evening @kipwilson, I hope all is well!

Do you really think that a minimal effort appeal is going to get you unbanned for a 1.6? Absolutely not.

Try again, with a bit more effort & explain your actions and behaviour to help us understand. 

 

[kipwilson]

Good evening @kipwilson, I hope all is well!

Do you really think that a minimal effort appeal is going to get you unbanned for a 1.6? Absolutely not.

Try again, with a bit more effort & explain your actions and behaviour to help us understand. 

Evening Danoo,  You too thanks. 

Bans:


Rule C1.6 - Community Ban


1.6 Community Ban Issued

• Warned by Mike, June 1
  

Rule C5.1 - Common Sense


Note for member:
(C5.1) Common sense - This is an adult community and a lot of the rules come down to common sense. (Swearing at people, trolling people, bullying people, spamming, inappropriate language, signature violation, topic bumping)

• Warned by Mike, June 1
  

Rule C5.1 - Common Sense


(C5.1) Common sense - This is an adult community and a lot of the rules come down to common sense. (Swearing at people, trolling people, bullying people, spamming, inappropriate language, signature...

• Warned by Phoenix, May 31
  

Trolling - Created after asking to be banned.

I was banned after asking for a ban on the forums due to myself spending too much time in roleplay. It could also be down to my behaviour in the discord whilst being intoxicated, it was a downwards spiral. There were instances when I even requested to be banned from the server, simply to avoid breaking the rules, this was irresponsible of myself (this is my understanding). I must admit that during the time of the rule break, it was summer, and I was often under the influence of alcohol. I want to let you know I understand that this can’t be an excuse. My behaviour could of been looked at as trolling and spamming which comes under the C5.1 rule overtime it turned into a C1.6?  I understand spamming and trolling is unacceptable. 

I understand my stupidity and immaturity could of looked like trolling but it wasn't in my intention to troll.

I don't really have much to say about how I acted over a period of time in May or June other than it is not the right way. If this all happened whilst I was sober then I would have a larger understanding and more to write but it happened in a period of myself in a bad position IRL. (I don't wish to discuss a lot as its personal and this is an open public forum) The behaviour was just unacceptable which I understood over the months. 

Now I want to explain why I believe you should unban me. I have been banned in the past but coming of that ban I created a new character which I put 100% roleplay and effort into. I have spent a significant amount of time reflecting on my behaviour and the impact it might have had on the community. I genuinely enjoy roleplaying on RPUK and matured a lot since my ban. I feel my actions previously lacked responsibility and were external to the server but could have affected the community. I am positive that I am able to show I am responsible and mature to be part of RPUK.

I would like to add I am sorry for my behaviour that might of affected any of the staff at RPUK or community. 

Thanks 

 

[Stuart]

Well Kip, Got to say I am disappointed to say the least. Now you have missed out more things that lead to us handing out a community ban now aren't you? C1.6's aren't given out lightly so it wasn't just "Trolling". Why did you decide to advertise? 

I understand my stupidity and immaturity could of looked like trolling but it wasn't in my intention to troll.

Really? So you made a report and an appeal for what reason on yourself? You we're warned in the report you made prior to us handing out this ban, So looking back on it yes you did intend to troll by your own actions. 

 

[kipwilson]

Well Kip, Got to say I am disappointed to say the least. Now you have missed out more things that lead to us handing out a community ban now aren't you? C1.6's aren't given out lightly so it wasn't just "Trolling". Why did you decide to advertise? 

Really? So you made a report and an appeal for what reason on yourself? You we're warned in the report you made prior to us handing out this ban, So looking back on it yes you did intend to troll by your own actions. 

Hi Stuart

Thanks for your time reading my appeal, sorry about the disappointment. 

"Now you have missed out more things that lead to us handing out a community ban now aren't you? C1.6's aren't given out lightly so it wasn't just "Trolling". Why did you decide to advertise?"

I completely understand and have thought recently there must have been more going on at the time which I haven't been able to explain myself. I recognize that my behavior may have come across as stupid and immature and for that, i apologize.  I am willing to take responsibility for my actions and own up to it If I can remember the situation or not. I can't remember advertising, being completely honest. If I advertised something it must of been rubbish to force the ban at the time, I know I wouldn't of advertised another server and if I did I never played, must of been crap. I assure you it wasn't my intention to harm or disrupt the community. I also understand that community ban(C1.6) are not taken lightly. 

"Really? So you made a report and an appeal for what reason on yourself? You we're warned in the report you made prior to us handing out this ban, So looking back on it yes you did intend to troll by your own actions. "

I tried to explain in the easiest way there isn't a valid reason which I could think of to this day other than me not being able to handle myself whilst being intoxicated. I can't think of a valid reason to this day of my thought process during May and June. 

I take full responsibility for my actions and the trolling of the report/unban appeal which happened, I regret that this happened. In my opinion I never intentionally went out my way and thought lets troll RPUK staff and community. I have come back to acknowledge what I have done wrong and try to amend it. Overall I don't wish to comment personal reasons which may of been going on at the time on a public forum but am more willing to explain in depth on TS if my unban appeal was considered. 

I do value the community and put a lot of time in coming of the back of a perm ban in November last year. I could write lots more but as explained its a public forum and don't wish personal issues on it. If i acted as a responsible adult at the time my personal issues should have never been brought into the community which i acknowledge and that's why I am here explaining myself. 

I am always willing to explain more in a voice chat if my unban appeal was considered. 

Thanks for your time reading and responding 

 

[Stuart]

I completely understand and have thought recently there must have been more going on at the time which I haven't been able to explain myself. I recognize that my behavior may have come across as stupid and immature and for that, i apologize.  I am willing to take responsibility for my actions and own up to it If I can remember the situation or not. I can't remember advertising, being completely honest. If I advertised something it must of been rubbish to force the ban at the time, I know I wouldn't of advertised another server and if I did I never played, must of been crap. I assure you it wasn't my intention to harm or disrupt the community. I also understand that community ban(C1.6) are not taken lightly. 

Mmmmm strange you don't remember doing it when you did this in our discord, However it wasn't the first time you did advertise other communities and that leads me to believe there is a chance it could happen again. So with that track record how can we even trust you?

I tried to explain in the easiest way there isn't a valid reason which I could think of to this day other than me not being able to handle myself whilst being intoxicated. I can't think of a valid reason to this day of my thought process during May and June. 

What's not to say this will simply happen again if you have a drink? We tried for a while working with you and tried to help as much as we could over the months however there is only so much we can do. I recall the long conversations we had back then in game and on teamspeak. How can we even be assured you won't simply re-do the same things again? As this is something we would need to look at alot before we even push further into the appeal.

 

[kipwilson]

Hi Staurt, 
Thanks for your time again, at the moment I would say you can't trust me after my actions.I wasn't thinking right at the time as I was intoxicated  and had lots going on which is not an excuse and I own up to what I did wrong. I am willing to prove to you and the staff at RPUK that i can engage and be part of the community without breaking rules.I have changed over the months of my ban. I know advertising is wrong and I still don't know why I did it to this day other than to force a ban on myself which has landed me on this forum. I could have taken a break and came back in a few months without getting myself a community ban. I would simply not make the same mistakes again which has got me removed from the community.  I understand trust is built over time and not from a simple 'I am sorry'

"What's not to say this will simply happen again if you have a drink? We tried for a while working with you and tried to help as much as we could over the months however there is only so much we can do. I recall the long conversations we had back then in game and on teamspeak. How can we even be assured you won't simply re-do the same things again? As this is something we would need to look at alot before we even push further into the appeal."

I have taken steps outside of roleplay which have helped me overall which I am more than happy to show these steps. I appreciate the amount of effort and time RPUK staff spent helping me over the months. I want to assure you that I have changed my behaviour over the months of the ban and I can prove that to you. I am still not perfect but I definitely wouldn't let the same mistakes happen again. I wasn't thinking clearly at the time and drink wasn't the only cause for me to act the way I did but its still not an excuse as I am an adult and should be responsible for my actions. 

I am genuinely sorry and willing to explain and highlight the issue at the time but don't wish to on a public forum as its personal to myself.

Thanks for reading

 

[Phoenix]

cracks knuckles

Right.

I know I wouldn't of advertised another server

But you did this during your previous ban in 2021, where you were shouting and raving that you didn't care what happened as you knew a better server and had been accepted to NoPixel. You did this despite having been banned for it a few months earlier in 2021. This isn't a one off, this is a pattern of behaviour. All of this is a pattern of behaviour, you drinking and getting in trouble. The general trolling is constant, the advertising and the inability to listen to staff.

What I see hasn't been brought up here in detail is the trolling you've done previously, so lets now go through it. You were banned in May 2023 where you proceeded to head to the forums and make a troll unban appeal



A day later, you did it again. This time making a troll report a player.



In relation to this, you've stated the following:

The behaviour was just unacceptable which I understood over the months. 

You're right, it is. Were it a one time thing, I'd believe you'd learnt your lesson and would give you the benefit of the doubt. To remove confusion from earlier, this became a 1.6 because of your history, and because of the continuous issues we've had with you and your general trolling and these issues of you being inebriated. I don't believe your claim you've never intentionally trolled because of the evidence to the contrary.

You now say:

I have changed over the months of my ban.

So, let's test this. At the very end of last year, you were given another chance by @PapaSmurphyin your appeal that got accepted.



When accepting the appeal, he stated:

This will be your only chance to start again and if you find yourself here again, it will be very difficult to come back.

I think you need to take this onboard. This appeal isn't simply a guaranteed unban after waiting 5 months. People need to genuinely believe it is in the best interests of the server that you return, that you're not going to cause any more issues for the player base nor the staff team, and so especially for someone who's been banned under C1.6, this isn't going to be the easiest given your history.

In your last appeal, you stated the following:

I won't play RPUK if I have had a drink, I can keep my word to that.

You lied, and did not keep your word.

"Do you want to RP on our server? or will you throw your toys out of the pram again?"

I want to RP, not use it like a playground when i use to go on RPUK. If I am allowed on RPUK again I will make sure it doesn't come out.

You lied, you got banned and threw your toys out of the pram with the aforementioned troll appeals and reports.

Ok so I use to be an idiot and I have grown out of that stage.

And once again, this has proven not to be true. You clearly hadn't grown out of any stage to get back here again.

The excuses given in this appeal are ones we've heard before. You've lied to us before, so the trust is now gone. We cannot take your word as the truth anymore because of no-one's actions but your own. I haven't heard anything in this appeal that we haven't heard before and because of that, I don't know how it's possible for us to trust you. The general act of defiance to staff is not prevalent solely in your appeals, but is clear on the server. During your previous ban you tried to throw yourself off a roof and exploit repeatedly, opting instead to try to advertise and tell us how much you didn't care. 

I'm not sure how you come back from this @kipwilsonas your past actions have betrayed you and your past words undermine the majority of what you're telling us here.

 

[kipwilson]

Hi Phoenix 

I don't disagree with anything you said you are right, I will be honest I don't have much to say. I tried to prove I had quality roleplay coming back from my first permanent ban. I felt I really did put a lot of time and effort into a faction in roleplay. I did fall back into my old ways which was drinking and an old addiction which caused this ban and lots of issues IRL. I didn't learn the first time from this cause i repeated the same actions the 2nd time. 

"I'm not sure how you come back from this @kipwilsonas your past actions have betrayed you and your past words undermine the majority of what you're telling us here."

After reading all of this what I have wrote looks like a delusion. I understand I am probably not allowed back but I have come to the forums to own up to my mistakes and say Sorry for breaking the rules on RPUK. 

I'd like to add thanks for all the time which staff at RPUK used out of there free time to help me. 

kip 

 

[PapaSmurphy]

@kipwilson 

Why am I not surprised to see you here again?! 

Its seems that you own up to your previous rule breaks but never learn from them, its not really that hard.

As a wise man said "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".

Come back in 6 months (23/04/24) and try your appeal again.

Denied. 

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