Unban Appeal - DSP-Thomas - Discord

[Yu Wong]

Unban Appeal for DSP-Thomas 

In-game Name: Thomass#2080

Server: Discord

Steam ID: 76561198045213785

The date you got banned: 14/12/20

Member of the team that banned you: No Idea

Reason given for your ban: None Present - probably arguing with Jason.

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.: Got tagged at like 4am, so I check after being in my own world, I see Bowen has written something in response to someone, I assume a late night ERP'r being banned, so I just went @Bowen Daddy, I used to call Bowen my dad when I was in his family. Stubley before that, was just a light hearted comment.

I then get called C R I N G E, and some other shit and then a comment about a situation that happened that shouldn't have been disclosed was said, I saw red and was annoyed, like anyone else would be.

I went to check Discord this evening, appear to be banned.

Why should we unban you ?: I was defending myself, I hardly play Arma anymore because I just don't enjoy it with people constantly on my back or trying to piss me off, so I stopped. I posted a message to someone who I think's a great guy, have a lot of respect for and then I get slidetackled for no reason. I will defend myself and do defend myself, but there's no reason for people to comment on my shit, honestly, I feel driven away from Arma and FiveM is decent, I like the community but people just operate in little gangs.

Yes, I probably over-reacted, do I argue with the same people a lot? Yeah.

Did I start this argument, Not at all.

Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 

[Gordon]

Lets review...

Here's the chat log in question (Full Res HERE).

Regardless of if you started it, is that what you'd call "Behaving as an adult"? I surely wouldn't. If you can't manage to handle yourself in an adult manner, why should you be part of an adult community? As you've kindly highlighted yourself, this isn't the first time. You've gained a reputation for over reacting and causing mindless, childish arguments in the Discord. I'd suggest that people would be less "constantly on your back" and "trying to piss you off" if you weren't constantly drawing attention to yourself with these sort of occurrences.

I think first and foremost, have you got anything you'd like to say to @Jason?

If there's any chance of you returning to the Discord then there's going to have to be some big changes to your attitude. Is this something you can handle?

 

[Yu Wong]

Lets review...



Here's the chat log in question (Full Res HERE).

Regardless of if you started it, is that what you'd call "Behaving as an adult"? I surely wouldn't. If you can't manage to handle yourself in an adult manner, why should you be part of an adult community? As you've kindly highlighted yourself, this isn't the first time. You've gained a reputation for over reacting and causing mindless, childish arguments in the Discord. I'd suggest that people would be less "constantly on your back" and "trying to piss you off" if you weren't constantly drawing attention to yourself with these sort of occurrences.

I think first and foremost, have you got anything you'd like to say to @Jason?

If there's any chance of you returning to the Discord then there's going to have to be some big changes to your attitude. Is this something you can handle?

I've literally not been talking on Discord because everytime I do, someone just decides to comment on it.

The thing that @Jasonmentions "Go beg your command for SGT again" - I spoke to my CSI in confidence, which was then leaked - I appreciate it's not Jason's concern or fault, but using that against me in a public channel, he knew I was going to bite.

I've been told not to talk in #Police-Members because "then people won't argue with you", which I feel has taken a massive part of my enjoyment away.

At two points in that conversation @Jason humours me, which to me says that he is taking this conversation as nothing more than banter, as soon as he said I'm finishing it, I stopped. If this did upset you Jason, then I apologise, but please do understand from my side, a lot of your friends within the community have made it clear they don't like me and I took up my unspent anger on you. In future it's probably best if you leave me to be "C R I N G E" alone, and I'll leave you alone too

 

[mryan19]

Other people may have started the petty argument making comments but line was crossed and it was you that crossed it. I would expect the "but he started it" comments from children. 

Did you really think the comments made by yourself in that conversation is something that would be acceptable to say?

 

[Yu Wong]

Other people may have started the petty argument making comments but line was crossed and it was you that crossed it. I would expect the "but he started it" comments from children. 

Did you really think the comments made by yourself in that conversation is something that would be acceptable to say?

I think that this community is sometimes a "He started it" vibe and everyone seems to look to gain points from each other.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel I overstept the mark and just let a load of supressed emotion fly at someone who probably didn't deserve it, yes. In reflection I could have taken this private or just ignored it, however at 4am I just felt like I had done nothing to warrent said comments and just saw red.

I've kept my head down since previous incidents and try to keep myself to myself, I try not get involved in any sort of debate anymore.

I do think though that this compared to some of the things witnessed to within the community isn't extreme, but completely recognise that it wasn't the place nor time.

 

[Robbie]

it clear they don't like me and I took up my unspent anger on you.

I think that this community is sometimes a "He started it" vibe and everyone seems to look to gain points from each other.

however at 4am I just felt like I had done nothing to warrent said comments and just saw red.

Maybe a community isn't for you, people will have banter and people will give out sly digs at each other. It's knowing when to quit and how not to react. All you did in this situation was escalate it massively. If you can't control your emotions what happens the next time someone pushes your buttons? How are you going to react next time?

I do think though that this compared to some of the things witnessed to within the community isn't extreme

Instead of comparing this to other things that have happened to make it sound to you less "extreme" take some responsibility instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. Otherwise you will not stand a chance of getting unbanned!

 

[Yu Wong]

Maybe a community isn't for you, people will have banter and people will give out sly digs at each other. It's knowing when to quit and how not to react. All you did in this situation was escalate it massively. If you can't control your emotions what happens the next time someone pushes your buttons? How are you going to react next time?

Instead of comparing this to other things that have happened to make it sound to you less "extreme" take some responsibility instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. Otherwise you will not stand a chance of getting unbanned!

I love this community, I've dedicated so much time to it & play it a lot. I don't fallout with a lot of people and I help new people, and just don't stick in the croud.

I agree, in reflection, I lost my cool. and that's not right, especially in a Public Channel, I understand, I apologise for the drama-lama.

I wasn't trying to sweep my blame into the rug of darkness, I just wanted to show people I'm not a bad person- I've had a wrongful ban on Arma once, but I took it on the chin, apart from a warning for pre-empatively shooting a mass RDM'er and NLR'er, I think I'm pretty clean.

Which I guess is something I'm proud of.

I've been trying to keep myself to myself and I just felt that someone was coming for blood, when I hadn't done anything and in the fight or flight moment I lost my shit.

I think we all know I didn't mean anything malicious and it was "banter" but I agree at 4am and the extent I went to isn't the place or time  

 

[mryan19]

As a word of advice. If there are things being said that get to you on discord either report it to a staff member if you think it was passed the line of what is acceptable or just take a step away from discord for a few minutes. I do not want to see anything like what was posted being said again.

Unbanned

 

[mryan19]

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