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Unban Appeal - d1xtr0_ttv - GTA RP

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d1xtr0_ttv

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Unban Appeal for d1xtr0_ttv 

In-game Name: Imran Teke

Server: GTA RP

Steam ID: 76561199094001303

Ban ID: !!rpuk146221!

Reason given for your ban: G3.1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.: I was alongside 3 other Ballas on the 4th of November banned under the assumption that we had metagamed a gun fight and logged onto the server to participate within that gunfight, this was simply not the case.

Why should we unban you ?: I should be unbanned due to the fact that there was 0 foul play involved that night and can to a 100% certainty state that there was 0 ooc information used.

Sorry for the lack of effort within the last appeal, i though simply posting the evidence would of been enough but it was not and within the appeal I will prove to the staff team the above statement that there was no meta involved.

Look at the 1st screenshot of my fortnite replays you can clearly see that i started playing just before 7 and finished at around 8:06 to 8:08 pm and I am sure that my log in time was no more than 2-5 minutes after that time as that is how long it took me to close fortnite switch steam (i play the server on another steam to my main this has already been covered by a ticket last year where i asked if my data could be put onto my main steam but that was not possible) load by five m, restart it with pure mode and log into the server.

Stuart said in my last appeal that the story was changed multiple times, people may have gotten confused or stressed out and got the chronological order of events confused however i would like to say that i personally from getting pulled by 1 staff to maze bank and then onto the mountain not once changed my recollection of events as i had no reason to, I have the undisputable evidence proving my innocence and as i knew that, it would be delusional to try spin up a cover story when the truth proves me innocent of any allegations of metagaming.

So the whole;
"changed multiple times between all four of you and we will go from there."
is simply not true as i never changed my own recollection of events from start to finish which i will state here yet again.

Started playing just before 6pm with John and Tee in trios, then Blain hopped into our lobby for 1 squad game where we had already planned to log onto the server at 8pm, but due to the game lasting slightly longer than expected we missed out initial time of 8pm by 10 minutes which surely would still be an okay time to log
on.

I am genuinely confused on the reason for the ban, me blain john and tee were in a sperate discord server playing fortnite with no way of knowing what was going on in the server, we finish playing a completely different game and decide to play the server, how is this meta gaming?

A further point is how would you like us to avoid getting bans like this placed in the server? Should i dm someone whos on the server and ask if its okay to log on, of course not that would be meta.
Should I ask staff if anything is going on? No this is also meta.

How would you like the player base to avoid headaches like this in the future, this is not me trying to take the piss or make a joke but rather is a genuine question to the staff team on how to avoid situations like this taking place.

After i logged on (i had logged off at my door step right behind ballas turf) i turned on my radio to hear comms of a evident gun fight, i then see a cutlass car drive past and fire shots towards me. At this point the seeds of roleplay are sown, regardless of if i had just logged on it would be me ruleplaying to try avoid this situation and quite frankly looking at it in an in character perspective would of been fail rp. And holding onto my promise to Jeep from my last unban appeal I will do my best to avoid rule playing.

In conclusion as a bottom line to "Why should we unban you", I should be unbanned due to the fact there was no ooc information used, we finished up our fortnite game as proven by my screenshots provided and simply decide to load into the server, we had no idea there was any sort of active situation as first the people on the server would of been deafened but regardless of that fact we were in a discord which had nothing to do with RPUK playing a completely different game as a group of mates. My last log off location was in such a spot that after loading in I would not of been able to remove myself from the situation without ruleplaying, to which I have promised not to do.

Yet again apologies to the staff team for the lack of effort in the last appeal, hope this is up to the standards.
Thank you for any and all staff reading and looking into this appeal.
Hope you have a good week.

Please confirm that you have read the unban appeal process and rules: Yes

 
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Hello there @d1xtr0_ttv

Now, what I find interesting is the fact that out of 3 appeals about this specific situation, you are the only one even mentioning Blane. The other 2 seem to have forgotten about him completely, which does not help when it comes to credibility. Furthermore, when you guys were pulled by staff, you all seemed to have issues remembering if you won or lost your game together - why is that? 

Your stories didn´t add up and screenshots are unreliable. That and collective records do not make it easy to give either of you the benefit of the doubt.

 
Firstly how on earth is the screenshots unreliable, it is indisputable evidence of innocence. I have no idea how staff have come to the conclusion that it is unreliable.

We had been playing for hours, excuse us if games started to blend into one another.

From me been pulled by the staff to maze bank then to the mountain side I never once changed my story, if others have slightly forgotten recollection of events then it is just that, you expect us to have crystal perfect robotic memories, no I don’t think so. 

I have evidence of playing a different game up until 20:07, close it down and launch fivem and into the server within 5 minutes of my fortnite game finishing. The fact that there in assumption of meta gaming with 0 proof is concerning, the server rules are already like land mines but to not even be able to log on to play the game is truly ridiculous. 

Played fortnite for close to 3 hours, had a plan to log on at 8 to play the server, logged on roughly 10 minutes late - you explain to me where the meta here is.

 
Screenshots have always been unreliable, in any situation, as they are too easy to fake. That is not to say it is fake, but we can not take it for face value. 

Now, let´s address your other points, before we move on to the attitude, shall we? 

Firstly, nobody has a perfect memory, but I´d expect you to be able to recall the outcome of the very last game you played, less than an hour ago. Stuttering around and different statements all across the board does not help that, does it? 

Let me take your concerns about the "0 proof" - We don´t need any hard proof. This is an open community that you are free to play in, as long as the people who own and maintain it allow you to do so. If there is sufficient doubt about whether or not you are keeping to the rules and standards that are expected from everyone, you are gone. The same thing would go for me or anyone else in this community. You don´t have a right to be here, neither of us does - don´t forget that. 

How is this the 2nd time you get yourself caught up in a dodgy situation like this? Let me tell you... You have run low on trust. Combat logging and calling staff members names (yes, we know about this) is where it starts. The attitude you portray in OOC and in general, your associations with people who have shown a disregard for the rules more than once in their time here and the fact that it has always been very apparent that the server rules are more an inconvenience to you than anything else. Landmines you say? Yet the vast majority of people does fine in not breaking them. How about we have a think about why the rules are the way they are and how many countless hours of coming up with them and wording them, re-wording them and searching for loopholes have gone into those, just for someone to go "What a useless rule". 

So... Let´s try this again, with some less attitude. How come that other people get pulled on these kind of things just the same as you did and do not get banned? How come that you find yourself in positions where not 1 staff member but a whole group of them has issues giving you the benefit of the doubt? And keep in mind, most staff have been here for a long, long time and we have heard pretty much every story under the sun at this point... 

 

 
Yes Sammy I say land mines, we have rules in place that are nowhere to be seen within the rules page, I’ll say this with truly 0 attitude, rules get bent around to save people. The entire community agrees with this, but not the place nor the time. 
 

The screenshots are not fake, to the point to when I was pulled I asked a simple request to let me stream my evidence to the staff team without having to go through all this hassle which as always was simply rejected - why. Beyond me. 
 

I got pulled and banned because I was not given the simple 5 minutes I needed to load up my evidence and stream it in real time to all close to 10 staff members present. If I was given that opportunity guess what we would not be here and you would not be asking me why staff don’t believe me. 
 

In that situation I didn’t need the benefit of the doubt I needed staff to give me no more than 5 minutes and a discord stream to prove my innocence, that was not provided to me hence why we are here. 
 

The reason as to why I can’t most of the time wiggle my way out of situations involving staff is yes due to my attitude, I will admit this. However my attitude is not one of toxicity, I simply regardless of who it involves or who it may piss off have always held to my own views. I have never been one to so called lick ass to get in peoples good books and have always called out bullshit when I see it regardless of that will land me in shit. That’s the person I am, I don’t sit and let shit I don’t agree with slide.

Has this caused people to dislike me of course it has, im sure certain devs and staff don’t like me which is okey no one has to like anyone. However this community isn’t an authoritarian scheme, we have the right to comment on what happened and what gets changed, if that gets on people’s nerve that gets on people’s nerves. 
 

my association with people that have no regard for rules, please explain to me what on earth this means. 
am I being held accountable for the mistakes and bans of my friend circle, because if that is the case than everyone one and I mean everyone within this community is accountable for being friends with people that have broken rules gotten discrimination bans and community bans, I genuinely don’t know what point is being made here please help me understand it Sammy. 
 

I have never stated a rule is useless, but some rules are very very tricky to get a hold of, the most basic of which is when do you know exactly when a combat situation is over, or more so the rule of teaming, I have had to open a lot of tickets regarding this “ can you do crim rp with other f6’s such as robberies, what constitutes teaming” Sammy I hope you didn’t see my last reply as a dig towards you or the staff team it is a genuine concern of mine. Some rules are overly confusing or at times not even stated within the rules page of the forums. 
 

This is an open community yes, however the thought process of guilty until proven innocent, does make it difficult especially when you are not provided adequate time to put forward evidence in real time of your innocence. 
 

Sammy I hope you don’t take what is said here personally or as a dig towards the staff team in anyway, I know the amount of time staff dedicate and I respect that, however do try to look at this through my point of view. 
Thank you, have a good morning.

 
rules get bent around to save people
This shouldn't be the case as that's how people end up here. No one likes to be in this section of the forums. 

Now in relation to this ban, From the video both yourself and Tommy sent me I'm satisfied that you simply come on after the match for the evening. As I mentioned in Tommy's appeal we will keep this as a reference however the ban won't count towards the FBS.

Hope you have a wonderful evening!

Unbanned!

 
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