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Un-ban Appeal - XtremeNugget - 04/15/2017 (Unbanned)

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XtremeNugget

XtremeNugget

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In-game Name
Xtrem

Steam ID
STEAM_0:0:40024172

The date of your ban.
04/14/2017

Member of the team that banned you.
TomTheDoge

Reason given for your ban.
Harrasment

The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
Well, I was banned because a player reported me for "harassment" (even though everything was in RolePlay and good spirit from my side) I don't remember the name of the player (she was female).

Why should we unban you ?
I should be un-banned due to that I think the report was incorrect and the player who has reported me took it too harshly on themselves-
I was role-playing with a person named Jeffery ~ And he was hitting on some rebel (who was a girl) and I chipped in (The situation was in Kavala Green Zone) We were roleplaying and as I stated he was hitting on the girl and I continued along with it (Only in role-play). Many things were said (Nothing rude or too out of context sexual besides some simple jokes about "Lets swap lolipops I have the best one etc" [(Do not quote me on that I don't remember exactly my words) She probably has the video and you can review it and see that nothing OOC / harmful was said during the ROLE-PLAY]

The player was running around Kavala yelling "Arrest me" "Arrest me" (At times she even followed me to where I was standing).
As rule "3.1" states and I quote "(3.1) Roleplay Everything - You must stay in character at all times. Please ensure you’re not on side-chat. " -
Following that rule, I was in character all the time and did not break it.
I would also like to POINT out that the person who has reported me didn't tell me to stop and even made laughs with me on some jokes that me and Jeffery made at the moment of RP. The person could have easily told me "Hey im slipping you a note" and told me that they feel uncomfortable with the situation and ask me to stop continuing this roleplay subject and move along (which i did eventually without that, it was stale roleplay) She also could've taken the tough route and slip me a note saying "Stop roleplaying with me like that or i'll report you" No mention was made or said to me OOC aobut the subject.

My point;
I was staying in role-play 24/7 all the time without breaking it.
I am roleplaying a rebel and as I stay 24/7 in roleplay my character may flirt with female/male rebels that exist in altis as far as I can take it.
As far as I know there is no rule against building a relationship/flirting with people  as my character plays along the role play. (Correct me if I am wrong)

to conclude: I was roleplaying and the player took it too hard, the player had the means to stop the situation at any given point in time and he chose not to and go along with (She probably has the video if I got banned for the "harassment") As the player did not stop and anything said between us was only roleplay and not OOC Harassament (I.E hey XXX can u come to TS i want to get your phone number irl etc etc / Start talking to her on the mic about real life stuff as phone numbers, etc)
That is my point and that is why I think I should be unbanned, im a true roleplayer to myself and I try to stay out of trouble with admins on issues and stay away from any rule-breaking.
If the staff community would accept my unban reason that would be totally great.

I would also like to state that if I missed anything or any detail I will edit/add later. Excuse my grammar and mistakes (Written at 03:29 AM)

Thank you for your time and for reading this ban appeal.

Please confirm this unban request is for you.
Yes

I have read and understand the unban appeal process
Yes

Please confirm you understand there is no timeframe for your appeal.
Yes

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Hmm... Right. The issue here is that the stories conflict. Now I don't know if @TomTheDoge has anything else to add here but something's not quite square.

Here at RPUK we like to treat every player with respect, in and out of character. Now obviously you can disrespect someone in-character but up to a certain level.. If you meet someone with a really high pitched voice you can probably get away with light mockery, however there like most things is a line. Meeting a female player and roleplaying flirtation is acceptable, although yet again there is a line. We've had quite a few instances of people going too far without realising when interacting with female player, wether that be because they've not used to it or it's their first time and they get overexcited I will never know.. But what I do know from your ban note is that you went too far even though she had asked you to STOP.

Aswell as the harrassment of a female character you also have two notes for not being the.. Friendliest player in the sea. So you have a bit more explaining to do before we consider letting you back in.




"Seen him being a real piece of work with his RP. One more threat to report or Teamspeak now, throw him a ban."

"Warned for threats to report/beaking roleplay. He threatened to report someone on the forums and for a ban also trying to resolve the issue whilst talking on the microphone. Informed of the server rules, why he couldn't do this and where to find the rules."
 


 
Sorry for the late response, i am in the army and it gives me little time to reply and sorry if my reply is lacking(writing this on my phone)

I would like to see the video or atleast the point where she said to stop the roleplay because from what i remember and wrote is that she did not ask me anything or wrote to me anything about stopping because if ive seen her ask to stop i would.

I would also like to say, there is no exact line to where or what is acceptable in flirt rp and if there is a video i would like the admin to point out what is "too far" already brcause as i remember i did not take it too far in my opinion but then again, each person has his comfort zone and it not might match mine.

On the other cases i would request you to be more specific on per case  so my answer would be fully devoted to that specific scenario.

I would like to say that my rp is dead serious when the situation is serious

People might not take it due to the fact that i use a funny accent to roleplay so they think i am dumb or lack logic or cant roleplay. I always try to solve any issues that arises woth the upmost friendly behavior. I never try to be rude or illogical with people.

A side note; i always try my best to keep law breaking to ooc.

I also would never try to attempt to solve an issue on the mic that is related to law breaking or anything else.

I did get a first warning when i firstly joined the sever and thought that i spoke on mic about ooc but since then ive sid my best to stay roleplay all the time on the mic.

Sorry if ive missed some info i will try my best to answer all i can

 
Hi there,

I would like if TomTheDoge sent me the video that he has received of me ignoring the request from her to STOP.

Also, I personally do not think that ive done something wrong, I did not break any line or rule.

I didn't disrespect the person nor did I insult and if I did, wasn't my intention I am sorry if she did feel like that but I can't decide how she feels per-situation.
On the other side, if I was banned for harassment that means that I chased her 24/7 yelling words or spamming her with sexual jokes which I did not, i focused on other things and other players aswell. 
I do really want to see which part I missed that she asked me to stop that would be nice to decypher and if I did miss it, then I do admit that it is my fault and take full responsibility for my mistake and will try to avoid such things next time.

 
@TomTheDoge - Following on from what Sam asked;

1) Do you have anything to add about this situation?

2) Do you feel as though the player in question comes across as genuinely apologetic? 

 
As much as I don't appreciate the lack of remorse towards what was done, I can't supply you with any footage to prove my point. Coming across as genuinely apologetic? No. Do I think I've proved the point and I'm alright with him being unbanned, yeah probably. I'll take your word and consider it legitimately a mistake that you didn't notice they were asking you to stop but I'd also give you a suggestion based on this comment.

XtremeNugget said:
in roleplay my character may flirt with female/male rebels
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Being "flirted" with is pretty much the only RP that most female players get a lot of the time and as much as we may want to emulate real life to an extent and what you did is 100% something that can legitimately roleplayed, spare a thought for the female player who wants to be treated the same as anyone else. Going into character on a server like this can act as an escape and getting shit in character doesn't really help that ideal. If you are familiar with the person and think they'll be ok with it or you think that the roleplay you are doing demands it, be my guest until told otherwise, but be reasonable.

I don't think I have much else to add really. @Fluqi I'm fine with you dealing with this as you see fit. I wouldn't have any issue with the ban being lifted.

 
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