Un-ban Appeal - Uncle Adam - 07/03/19

[U N C L E]

In-game Name
[GB] Uncle Adam

Steam ID

76561198079834936

The date of your ban.
03/03/2019

Member of the team that banned you.
Alex Rose

Reason given for your ban.
2.5 Combat Logging

The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
I would like to start from the beginning, before this whole situation I was under the impression that my house would be protected by Poseidon because multiple Squads that have passed by have said they would protect my house if it were being attacked or in general. This was even before the Alliance between Ground Branch and Poseidon. I have kept a good reputation with Poseidon besides finally coming to an agreement with a deal we had in the works. Since that my interactions with Poseidon had been minimal unless at the border due to me being in the sky or red zones mostly. Now getting to the situation. I come from the Red zones with a nice amount of loot from the people I had slain; I begin unloading said loot into my house which is south of Pyrgos so not that far from one of the Headquarters of Poseidon about 1k or less. Then middle of unloading a helicopter into my house a helicopter full of Poseidon landed and then ejected from their vehicle.

firstly they come across pleasant. Saying their hellos and how are yous. I respond to the ''How are you'' question, but they do not. I feel slightly uneasy. As I pull out of my house storage there is a Poseidon member * Not sure of the name * Blocking my doorway and not saying a word. I ask if he could move politely and I get no response. I repeat this question in a vary of ways still with no response. I leave my house going outside through the back and then get greeted by another Poseidon member. I continue to run to my helicopter to see if I they were messing with it and just stalling me inside. They were not so I felt like they were just messing with me since so far there has been literally no role play. As I get in my helicopter I ask what are they up to and then I get abuse hurled at me. ''Fuck off you cunt'' or somewhere in the lines of that. I ask what have i done to you? I hadn't done a single thing to provoke since I would like the standing between my gang and theirs to be better off than to start a war. One of the members of Poseidon then says '' we are going to rob your house '' I hoped they were joking and then flew off. As I was going to steal the current Helicopter I was in ( I also got the Helicopter from the Red zones ) I crash at the scrap dealer just south of Pyrgos and I was clearly being tailed by the Poseidon guys because a car turned up as I crashed and I was then thrown in the SUV and taken to my house.

Whilst driving back I ask the same questions because I was confused how a white listed faction I was on good terms with despite a recent alliance breaking off, would still provide some good role play and the common courtesy to live in their lands without the need to feel bullied by a hummingbird of Poseidon members versus one single Rebel who at the time was under their protection via border pass ( even though I know this doesn't exempt me from their cartel ways ) there should of been a higher level and not the sort of role play that feels more malicious towards the single member.

Back to the point I was then taken to my house I was then pulled out of the car and revived by a George Harris. He said I am going to let you sit here and watch while we rob your house. At this point it gets slightly blurry if he said anything after this since something in the situation then triggered my anxiety attack that led to a momentarily ptsd flashback. Because of the reaction from said situation I left the game instantly and took myself away from the computer for a short time. a couple of minutes pass and then George Harris asks me to join back to continue the situation. Me not wanting to consent to that form of role play I refuse in an angry manner. Then get given an ultimatum to resit the situation exactly how it was ( this was given by Alex Rose ) or get banned. Obviously the situation was more than enough for me the first time so I was going to go for the latter option despite the outcome because I have to own my flaws and mistakes.
I understand at the end of the situation I broke the combat logging rule and in no event is there a justifiable reason to break this rule.

Why should we unban you ?
I am aware that role play is taken seriously on this server and I understand I broke a very serious rule (that being combat logging in the middle of a role play scenario) and that I denied the Poseidon members any sort of role play by doing this and I would like to apologise to every party involved in this situation.

This situation provided a scenario with me being brought from one location to another whilst being incapacitated and then revived and handcuffed in front of my house while a Poseidon member was speaking down to me and laughing while forcing me to watch my house get broken into. I apologise for my actions and I will not allow my emotions to get the best of me while in a role play capacity to ensure I make the right judgement calls in the future. The scenario above does not justify my actions at all, however I just wanted someone to understand it from my point of view. Since I have been banned, I have thought more about the scenario leading up to my ban and understand that I could have handled it in numerous ways rather than the way I did. If there is a chance for me to be unbanned or have the option for rehabilitation, I would greatly appreciate your time and consideration regarding my appeal.

Please confirm this unban request is for you.
Yes

I have read and understand the unban appeal process
Yes

Please confirm you understand there is no timeframe for your appeal.
Yes

Before you submit this form please confirm you have fully read the rules click here
Yes

 

[James_W12345]

Thank you for providing the level of detail you did.

That said, we feel it is quite concerning that you mentioned anxiety attack during a roleplay situation.

Your in-game possessions and money are merely part of a virtual environment and mean very little and should not cause such feelings.

This is a role play community and we allow all forms of high quality (with a few minor obvious exemptions) roleplay, this includes being robbed.

What is going to stop you having similar anxiety attacks in the future given a similar situation? 

 

[U N C L E]

Thank you for providing the level of detail you did.

That said, we feel it is quite concerning that you mentioned anxiety attack during a roleplay situation.

Your in-game possessions and money are merely part of a virtual environment and mean very little and should not cause such feelings.

This is a role play community and we allow all forms of high quality (with a few minor obvious exemptions) roleplay, this includes being robbed.

What is going to stop you having similar anxiety attacks in the future given a similar situation? 

I have never once had this sort of outcome from a situation online, but since the situation occurred in a scenario  were my house was being robbed. I will no longer dedicate myself to a house. This house was also a vault for the gang if needed and I did not know the possessions inside of my house currently, so a factor of the situation could be me feeling helpless for my gang members also being the co-leader of a gang gives a sense of responsibility of looking out for the interest of the gang, but holding onto multiple peoples valuables may be a bit too much pressure for me. Of course it may be a game and virtual items but after you dedicate unspeakable amounts of time to defend these items and the location it  can be quite stressful. That's also why I set up some verbal agreements with Poseidon so  I could get an extra level of security from a white-listed faction. Which they agreed on numerous occasions but then went against anyways.

Even then this did not stop the one situation I was afraid of happening and as one person you cannot control the momentum of these situations and that can be quite daunting in many ways, so if I am to be given a second chance I will get rid of my house that is used as a vault for everyone. This will remove the chance of an anxiety attack coming through that situation. Usually most negative encounters  I am fine with being a captive and executed / robbed etc. There are always time were there will be verbal to and throws but I would never combat log consciously since I know that there is no real reason to do this and it can destroy a scenario that someone may have planned out or wanted for sometime.  

Thank you for your time once again

Uncle Adam 

 

[NotMattch]

I would never combat log consciously since I know that there is no real reason to do this and it can destroy a scenario that someone may have planned out or wanted for sometime.  

Yet when you came to TS you were given the chance to log back in and continue, instead, you refused.  Your actions are already proving that what you're saying here doesn't hold much truth or value

 

[U N C L E]

Yet when you came to TS you were given the chance to log back in and continue, instead, you refused.  Your actions are already proving that what you're saying here doesn't hold much truth or value

Because I did not want to repeat the affect of the first scenario. That outcome was pretty awful for me personally. Having an anxiety attack because of a situation then that leading to a flashback is pretty traumatising for the fact that you are reliving a situation that was so devastating you have not yet come to terms with it and then you  want me to resit the situation? I can admit my flaws and what I have done wrong. I can say what I can do to prevent the situation from happening again and then the outcome that was never anticipated to happen because i live a life were that is how it is. I use this server to relax and get away from it all and the fact I can still even have these situations occur is unfortunate because it led to this outcome. 

This situation I left because I was in a situation that definitely put me in a very uncomfortable state and at that time my instant thought was to remove myself from this. I have not ever before this; had this type of reaction ever in a game and I have had my house robbed before and been captive.  This is the unluckiest situation personally. Id do whatever I could to resolve this situation but relive that situation. I understand this is an abnormal event of circumstances and you have to treat each one with the same integrity but I have only combat logged in this sequence of events. I regret it 110% because it's not how you should respond to any situations. I can only say I can avoid these similar situations with that amount of pressure already tide to it. 

 

[NotMattch]

From what I've seen and understood, there's nothing wrong with the situation that was provided.  Yes it was hostile but it wasn't anything out of the norm (I.e. It wasn't like they were trying to RP a Rape scenario, or terrorism - stuff that would be dealt with under 3.6).   

You won't be able to avoid similar situations every single time, its the nature of Altis Life and you will end up in a similar situation where a hostile force is intending on raiding a house, taking you hostage etc etc.   So you'd likely end up D/Cing again under similar circumstances.

You've previously been warned for bullying, not that long ago (21st feb).  Warned for exploiting by passing items through a wall of your house and also warned for NLR.

The issue I struggle with is that, if you do end up in a similar situation, it's likely that you would d/c and combat log again as proven by this case.  Obviously, this isn't fair on everyone else and ultimately that's our main concern here.  You were also told in TS that its unlikely any appeal would be accepted within 6 months due to your history, to which your response was it may be beneficial to yourself to have an "enforce break".    The fact your appealing contradicts this somewhat?

 

[U N C L E]

I understand that you think what you think but again you aren't taking it the way I am thinking. I have told you what I can do to prevent this and then you twist it into being every situation even though in the whole time ive have these conditions, this is the very first time this has happened.

I also said the pressure from having my house as a vault was too much from me. not every situation were i get my truck robbed full of gear or resources. not any of those situations can compare to the one were I had a negative reaction. They are in a different ball park. Just because you are seeing the facts you see and you aren't understanding it from my point of view at all. I admitted my faults. I admit what I have done but the thing is all these situations were linear. Nothing I have done has ruined the integrity of the server like many others have and yet they get another chance. 3+ Bans. All I am saying is that I want to rectify my mistakes. I want to prove that I can be better. I have been thinking how to distance myself from this outcome since it first happened. The one main way is to not own the house. get rid of it and then every other situation will not be big enough for me to give a single care in the world because I would lose minimal gear / assets. Even a Huron is minimal compared to a fully upgraded house that I have been sitting on for months. 

I also thought Alex rose saying not to appeal was just a personal opinion due to him saying '' he understood mental illness because of his girlfriend having it '' and then telling me '' do not play these servers ever again '' because of one outcome due to my mental illnesses. I don't agree with this but instead of reacting with rage because I felt moderately insulted I said I would take a break. I never stated how long the break would be from the role playing servers. I simple said I will have a break. I also did not think the 6 months applied due to it not being a 1.6.

This whole time I have been banned I have still been an active member in the community and been trying to better my gang and friends around me besides myself. There is nothing else I can say to please you or to justify anything else because I have said it all already. 

 

[NotMattch]

So tell me about the brief conversation you had on TS with one of the Poseidon involved and explain to me why it doesn't contradict anything you've said within this appeal.

 

[U N C L E]

So tell me about the brief conversation you had on TS with one of the Poseidon involved and explain to me why it doesn't contradict anything you've said within this appeal.

if you are talking about the one situation right after a situation I did not want to be apart of and was in a state? I would not respond in a respectful manor to someone who I think was making a situation to target me and bully me and like I said verbal to and throws happen. Everyone gets angry and says things. everyone slips up and acts on impulse. Regarding the other issues I have been using my house door. I have turned off my OOC. I have done what I can to stop all of these situations occurring again. 

 

[NotMattch]

So that's your excuse? It was an impulse to tell them to fuck off and suck your dick? In text?  The place where you don't have to type and can see and rewrite before you send it in the first place?  And this justifies it?

 

[U N C L E]

Oh definitely not an excuse but acting on impulse is definitely a thing. Some people are better than others and I am not saying its right but everyone does it. If you have never thrown an insult at someone I think you would be lying.

 

[NotMattch]

If you have never thrown an insult at someone I think you would be lying.

No, however if I'm in a shit mood I tend to re-read what I've written before I send it.

In any case, if you were to come back the following would be imposed:

The house would be wiped, no questions asked and no bartering on this matter, standard punishment for anyone who combat logs.

Secondly, any further rules related to any of the warnings you've had - Bullying, NLR, Combat Logging etc will instantly be met with a 6month ban without question.

Do you understand this?

 

[U N C L E]

I do understand this and I fully agree that the house should be wiped also.

 

[NotMattch]

House nuked.

Unbanned as per terms - 

Secondly, any further rules related to any of the warnings you've had - Bullying, NLR, Combat Logging etc will instantly be met with a 6month ban without question.

 

[NotMattch]

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