RobA
Banned
In-game Name
Rob
Steam ID
76561198166298642
The date of your ban.
08/02/2017
Member of the team that banned you.
Vladic Ka
Reason given for your ban.
Metagaming
The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1
In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
Was helping Saul (Administrator) with some Bug-finding (seeing if the gate at Kav PD could be hopped over) and was speaking to him casually about the PD, etc. I saw that TCK had crashed in the server side and, speaking to Saul, laughed and said "Lol, TCK just crashed". My intention was, of course, not to meta game - I wouldn't say something like that unless I was speaking to an Admin.
I initially received a small warning, where I then went to watch Vladic's stream. He was discussing about the YR program and how it's a failure, etc. He was pinning the bulk of the blame onto Fergus (I believe you may be able to rewatch the Stream once it's done?) and I respectfully disagreed. This is a CTRL C/CTRL V of exactly what I said.
E__Albrecht: (PC Rob here) Vladic, I am the first person to jump on Fergus's back when he fucks up, but pinning all the YR problems on him? Seems a bit much, don't you think? Just an IMO
He then said, again, that most of the problems were due to Fergus. Before finishing his sentence, he said "Weren't you the guy that was Meta gaming earlier?" I replied with the following.
E__Albrecht: Not really meta though, was it? Was laughing about TCK to an Admin. AFAIK Admin's don't have to be spoken to in character. Apologies if I'm wrong.
He said I was arguing with him on Stream, and that I had apparently come on Stream to argue with him. He said he would then ban me then and there, and that it was immediately appeal-able.
Consequently, I was banned.
Here is the rest of the conversation I got together, a summary of all my replies.
E__Albrecht: Besides, I was using it to no advantage whatsoever.
John_Fletcher_RP: @e__albrecht but it was , if you talk about it in game it's a meta no matter what.
(Vladic accuses me of arguing) E__Albrecht: Vladic, I'm not arguing with you, not my intention
E__Albrecht: Vladic, I didn't come to your stream to talk shit - I was speaking to an admin. Again, apologies if I was wrong.
Why should we unban you ?
I have never been a rulebreaking player, always sticking vehemently to the rules and apologising when things may have gotten out of hand. I have never metagamed, never had the intention to, and I've never been a rulebreaker apart from a rocky beginning, which has never been repeated.
As very obvious by my tone in my replies on Stream, I had no intention of arguing and wanted it to go no further, but I simply was saying that I was under the belief that it was not Meta, and that if corrected, I firmly apologise. I made it very clear that if I was in the wrong, I was apologetic, but my knowledge led me to believe that since I was speaking to an Administrator, I did not have to be in character.
Furthermore, (4.1) Side Chat - Using intelligence gained on side chat to influence actions in game. Punishment is a kick/ban.
My small chuckle at TCK crashing offered me no advantage and influenced no decisions in-game.
Furthermore, it is very evident that I had absolutely no intention of going on Stream to debate my warning - He was actually the first one to bringing it up, calling me a metagamer. I came to watch the Stream and relax. I disagreed with the YR issue and he then continued to bring up a previous incident, which was supposedly dealt with. I, of course, replied, which escalated to this.
When laughing at that small TCK crash, I was speaking strictly to the Administrator at hand, as I was helping him see if I could vault through the gate. I would absolutely not say that on a normal day in character.
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I have read and understand the unban appeal process
Yes
Please confirm you understand there is no timeframe for your appeal.
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Rob
Steam ID
76561198166298642
The date of your ban.
08/02/2017
Member of the team that banned you.
Vladic Ka
Reason given for your ban.
Metagaming
The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1
In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
Was helping Saul (Administrator) with some Bug-finding (seeing if the gate at Kav PD could be hopped over) and was speaking to him casually about the PD, etc. I saw that TCK had crashed in the server side and, speaking to Saul, laughed and said "Lol, TCK just crashed". My intention was, of course, not to meta game - I wouldn't say something like that unless I was speaking to an Admin.
I initially received a small warning, where I then went to watch Vladic's stream. He was discussing about the YR program and how it's a failure, etc. He was pinning the bulk of the blame onto Fergus (I believe you may be able to rewatch the Stream once it's done?) and I respectfully disagreed. This is a CTRL C/CTRL V of exactly what I said.
E__Albrecht: (PC Rob here) Vladic, I am the first person to jump on Fergus's back when he fucks up, but pinning all the YR problems on him? Seems a bit much, don't you think? Just an IMO
He then said, again, that most of the problems were due to Fergus. Before finishing his sentence, he said "Weren't you the guy that was Meta gaming earlier?" I replied with the following.
E__Albrecht: Not really meta though, was it? Was laughing about TCK to an Admin. AFAIK Admin's don't have to be spoken to in character. Apologies if I'm wrong.
He said I was arguing with him on Stream, and that I had apparently come on Stream to argue with him. He said he would then ban me then and there, and that it was immediately appeal-able.
Consequently, I was banned.
Here is the rest of the conversation I got together, a summary of all my replies.
E__Albrecht: Besides, I was using it to no advantage whatsoever.
John_Fletcher_RP: @e__albrecht but it was , if you talk about it in game it's a meta no matter what.
(Vladic accuses me of arguing) E__Albrecht: Vladic, I'm not arguing with you, not my intention
E__Albrecht: Vladic, I didn't come to your stream to talk shit - I was speaking to an admin. Again, apologies if I was wrong.
Why should we unban you ?
I have never been a rulebreaking player, always sticking vehemently to the rules and apologising when things may have gotten out of hand. I have never metagamed, never had the intention to, and I've never been a rulebreaker apart from a rocky beginning, which has never been repeated.
As very obvious by my tone in my replies on Stream, I had no intention of arguing and wanted it to go no further, but I simply was saying that I was under the belief that it was not Meta, and that if corrected, I firmly apologise. I made it very clear that if I was in the wrong, I was apologetic, but my knowledge led me to believe that since I was speaking to an Administrator, I did not have to be in character.
Furthermore, (4.1) Side Chat - Using intelligence gained on side chat to influence actions in game. Punishment is a kick/ban.
My small chuckle at TCK crashing offered me no advantage and influenced no decisions in-game.
Furthermore, it is very evident that I had absolutely no intention of going on Stream to debate my warning - He was actually the first one to bringing it up, calling me a metagamer. I came to watch the Stream and relax. I disagreed with the YR issue and he then continued to bring up a previous incident, which was supposedly dealt with. I, of course, replied, which escalated to this.
When laughing at that small TCK crash, I was speaking strictly to the Administrator at hand, as I was helping him see if I could vault through the gate. I would absolutely not say that on a normal day in character.
Please confirm this unban request is for you.
Yes
I have read and understand the unban appeal process
Yes
Please confirm you understand there is no timeframe for your appeal.
Yes
Before you submit this form please confirm you have fully read the rules click here
Yes
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