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Un-ban Appeal - Cameron - 24/10/18

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Charlie Fox

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Location
Winchester, United Kingdom
In-game Name
Cameron

Steam ID
76561198036592880

The date of your ban.
24/10/18

Member of the team that banned you.
Qrow

Reason given for your ban.
2.2 Forum Report - RDM

The Server you initially were banned on.
Server 1

In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.
I breached the rule against RDM. I opened fire and killed a police officer without sufficient initiation or prior role play and then attempted to kill a second officer.

Why should we unban you ?
First of all, I wish to express that I am deeply sorry for this incident. This was my first day playing a role play game such as Altis Life, and whilst I had read the server rules and believed that I understood them fully, I was not experienced or wise enough to apply them correctly in this situation.

On this day, I had been playing the game with some more experienced players (including Dr Disrespect). I had randomly come across them in my first few hours playing, and they invited me to tag along with their activities. Throughout the day, they had been teaching me how to play properly as I was very new and a little confused.

Towards the end of the day, most the players I was with had logged out and so it was just Dr Disrespect and myself; Dr Disrespect suggested that we attempt to steal from a policeman (I believe it was to take their car). He explained that the plan was that I should wait on a balcony of a building whilst he initiated the scenario and if he gave me a signal, I should shoot the policeman in fully automatic with the assault rifle that I had been given by him and the other players I was with. I saw Dr Disrespect come around the corner (as seen on the video evidence) and the policeman started working on the car. I observed what I believed to be conversation between Dr Disrespect and the policeman. Over the group channel (as they had invited me to their group / gang) he gave me the signal and so I opened fire on both policemen. I then immediately fled the scene on foot.

I understand that RDM is when a player randomly opens fire on another player without any warning or sufficient role play scenario (for example, this is a robbery, put your hands up and you will live etc.). I also understand that the purpose of this rule is to prevent the server from becoming chaotic and anarchistic and it serves to preserve the role play nature of the game so that it may provide a quality and enjoyable experience to those involved as opposed to all out warfare.

In this occasion, I believe I was misled as I was under the impression that Dr Disrespect had sufficiently initiated a role play scenario. I did not know what he had said to the police prior to them arriving at the car, nor could I hear the conversation that was occurring between them at the car and so when he gave me the signal to shoot I naively followed his instruction believing the rules regarding RDM to be satisfied by proxy. In this instance I was incorrect, and this was poor judgement on my part as I knew the rules and I should have questioned him on it to ensure that I am allowed to open fire. I can only put this down to sheer inexperience and misguided trust in a more experienced player.

Further to this, immediately after the incident, I was not aware that I had committed an offence since nothing was mentioned to either Dr Disrespect or myself, either on game or in Teamspeak. The first I was aware that I had committed an offence, was when I was banned today. I have subsequently found that there was a report filed on the Forum. This is a further error on my part which I must apologise for as I was not aware that I should be checking the Forum for messages as I believed they would be sent to me either in game or on Teamspeak.

Since this incident took place, I have ceased playing with Dr Disrespect, and I have found a considerably better mentors to play with and better people to play with who have provided me with a much better outlook towards the game.

I did not mean to break the rules, and I can only once again apologise for not playing within the intended spirit of the game. I was new and inexperienced, and based on what I was told by the person I was playing with, I believed that I was following the rules. In hindsight I can clearly see that I have broken the rule however it was not intentional.

I have now re-read the rules, which combined with my growing experience in game, now make more sense to me than they did on day one and I am sure that I have a much better grasp on them and so I am confident that if given a second chance, I will play only within the spirit of the game.

Please confirm this unban request is for you.
Yes

I have read and understand the unban appeal process
Yes

Please confirm you understand there is no timeframe for your appeal.
Yes

Before you submit this form please confirm you have fully read the rules click here
Yes

 
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So you got warned before to read the rules. Now you are banned for RDM. 
Did you not took the warning serious by not reading the rules? 
Also quote me the rule you broke, And explain in your own words why we have this rule in place?

 
I can't remember exactly when I received that warning however this incident occurred in my first three hours playing and so I do not believe that I had ever received any warnings of any sort prior to this incident; however I did read the rules before I joined the server. In this case I naively believed that I was following the rules because I was under the impression that the other player had initiated because he had told me that he had. I will ensure that this does not happen again by being a better judge of character and ensuring that I do not play with a toxic sort of person. I will also take extra caution to ensure that I am satisfied that an RP scenario has been properly initiated before I shoot anyone.

The rule I broke is:
 

[SIZE=medium](2.2) Random Deathmatch (also known as RDM) - Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order. Count downs are not considered quality roleplay, please at least attempt to create an interesting roleplay story before considering shooting.) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban).[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]This rule is not applicable in the red zone.[/SIZE]
And as I mentioned before, without this rule in place there would be a breakdown in quality RP on the server. People would become too quick to shoot and very soon it would become chaotic and you would never be able to achieve anything for fear of being shot nor would you be able to be enjoy quality RP because you would be shot before you had a chance.  If you want RDM, then you should be playing a KOTH or similar game mode.

Edit / insert : Tomorrow afternoon I will be going on a short vacation; I will try to access the forum on my phone however this may not be possible depending on signal / WiFi.  I will do my best to check for replies before I go and at any opportunity I can. I am planning on returning Tuesday however I might return a day earlier or later depending on the trip.

 
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no worries about your vacation. we will keep this open, until you are back.
Now how will you make sure your friend have initiated propperly? 

 
One way would be for me to ask my friend to hotmic the initiation should I find myself in a position that I cant hear it first hand, or I would simply avoid a situation like this altogether when I can't hear the initiation first hand, especially if  I have only met the person I believed to be initiating. 

 
What will do if you are not certain if you friend initiated propperly ? 

 
I will not use any lethal force against the person; I will either initiate myself personally or I will simply walk away .

 
okey, it seems you learned from this mistake. 
Make sure you read the rules before joining the server. 
Also i hope that we dont see you in this part of the forums anymore. 


UNBANNED 02/11/2018
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