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Tow Truck Bob Licensed Jobs instead of lazy scrap dealer no RP stuff

Davelantor

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I have been reading the reasons people give to have scrap dealer/ scrapyards back ...
"too many cars around"/"I can threaten with having his vehicle scrapped"/"dumped cars cause server lag"

And seems the Laziest way people came up is the scrapyards, Where you simply STOP RP... is this server full of people who want to motivate people to RP or make people afraid to RP because they may loose their stuff. (Or secretly want scrapyards back because, they want the cash and dont care)

1. Having scrapyards means people will be less willing to handover their vehicles during a robbery, to the point of starting a gunfight, and that possibility will put everyone in more edge with the knowledge of number of dick people around, you cant change that, i have seen lots of people simply start their day with the intention of getting into combat or to rob people for content of their truck, so they can sell it at drug dealer for cash as a group. So scrapyards would lower the incentive to RP.

2. It will promote blobbing, as we all know currently you can easily find people doing drug runs alone or with a friend, if you are in constant danger of loosing not just your gear, but also your vehicle, it will be detrimental to all the people that want to go around alone and engage with people not as a gang, but as an individual. I love gangs and everything but i have a feeling making the game more "I can make you loose all your stuff" mode will not going to be fun for many new players. instead it will make people even more isolated. Because you see that stranger, you could drive up to him and engage in roleplay ... BUT he might not only rob all your gear, but also take your vehicle and sell it, and make direct cash money. This might be something you might not find "important" when you have been in the game for a long time.

The way i see it people want scrapyards not for RP reasons, they just dont like seeing empty vehicles on sides of road, infact simply they just want that option ... but if you want people to be more motivated to RP, perhaps scrapyards is just a lazy solution to "need for scrapyards".

SO a NOT LAZY solution is Towtrucks.
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Just like ARAC duty, or in addition to ARAC duty, you can impound vehicles and GET MONEY from doing so, for keeping the streets of altis clean.
impounding conditions:
- Vehicle must be vacant for more then 15 minutes.                 - Avoid Trolling/Exploiting (server side timer that only bring up the option if vehicle has been on idle over 15 minutes)
- You can only impound when you are wearing the uniform      - For RP reasons
- You cant impound your own vehicles                                   - Avoid Exploiting
- You cant impound police, NHS or BA vehicles                      - For Reasons
- When on duty, if police calls you to impound a truck, that must be your primary duty.

Please feel free to entertain the idea, and as a RP SERVER, wouldn't this be a better alternative ?

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I personally 110% agree with a tow truck system it's been mentioned again and again but keeps falling on deaf ears.

ARAC is meant to be a RP job but there is little to no RP feed back to about 80% of the people I deal with even when I'm struggling to make things as realistic and as fun as possible on a related note police RP once again has started to go up a little after last weeks meeting and thats good to see but adding extra work for ARAC and even working along side the police is a way to push ARAC and police back into RP land while adding more RP onto the server, I would even go as far as saying move ARAC HQ to a new location so it's not just a spawn point for airport.

To counter trolls you could say ARAC licence would cost 2 million like bounty-hunter I know this is expensive but it would counter some of the people that would only use it to abuse it.

I personally love this idea its a good way to help with server lag + adds RP onto server and it stops new players losing money from having their only truck scrapped by a hobo who doesn't want to give high levels of RP in truck robberies.

 
I can not support something that would allow people to impound cars, no matter the license cost. The risk of trolls is simply too great. If you wanted to do this then you would have to be able to actually tow cars. The ability to tow cars would only be possible with a mod, and that's not going to happen. That being said, I do love the idea of an ARAC tow truck.

 
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I can not support something that would allow people to impound cars, no matter the license cost. The risk of trolls is simply too great. If you wanted to do this then you would have to be able to actually tow cars. The ability to tow cars would only be possible with a mod, and that's not going to happen. That being said, I do love the idea of an ARAC tow truck.
yeah, i thought of that aswell, thats why i also suggested a timer, for example

You can not tow a truck that is in Greenzone
You can not tow a truck with an occupant inside it

You can tow a truck only if its been vacant over 15 minutes

If any of these conditions are not ment, even if you have a licence, the option to impound will not come up

 
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I can not support something that would allow people to impound cars, no matter the license cost. The risk of trolls is simply too great. If you wanted to do this then you would have to be able to actually tow cars. The ability to tow cars would only be possible with a mod, and that's not going to happen. That being said, I do love the idea of an ARAC tow truck.
I was just thinking this but a way around the risk of trolls is having a point (i.e at police station) where the ARAC has to bring trucks before impounding or even like a automatic script that acts like impound command. You drive over the point with tow truck with car on tow the car/truck gets send to impound yard, kinda like old scrap yard even but not scrapping them just having them impounded if on tow.

 
I can not support something that would allow people to impound cars, no matter the license cost. The risk of trolls is simply too great. If you wanted to do this then you would have to be able to actually tow cars. The ability to tow cars would only be possible with a mod, and that's not going to happen. That being said, I do love the idea of an ARAC tow truck.
By the way it is possible to tow cars their is a script on many wasteland servers which allow you to tow cars to each other

 
Why not add a branch off the Police for a taffic warden, that way he can impound all illegally parked cars and even go as far as issuing a parking ticket.

 
I have had the same Idea before so you have my full support on this topic!

 
Why not add a branch off the Police for a taffic warden, that way he can impound all illegally parked cars and even go as far as issuing a parking ticket.
Because police are always doing other stuff, you not allowed to patrol on your own for instance so if one guys wants to RP and the other wants only gun fights its hard to find someone who wants to RP most of the time. 

Plus in UK Parking Wardens are part of council not police.

 
I really like the idea but as alrready mentioned: The risk of trolls are too high. It would mean everyone can simple start impouding/stealing cars at any moment without police authority.

 
Personally, i think this would be a great feature. Would make more roleplay for people, however may take a lot of coding, or even mods. Which may be a problem. Would love to see it in the future though.
+1

 
How about... You can only tow/ impound something that has been 'Tagged'  (like one of those  "This vehicle will be towed" signs) and stationary for 15-30mins?

The 'Tag' could be something that gets placed on or near the vehicle. Ideally a wheelclamp or a sticker... but could be a traffic cone or gets resprayed the ARAC orange?

If the vehicle moves or is opened within the time... the tag gets removed.

Police or NHS could text ARAC - "Vehicle tagged @ XXXXXX and needs to be removed"

 
How about... You can only tow/ impound something that has been 'Tagged'  (like one of those  "This vehicle will be towed" signs) and stationary for 15-30mins?

The 'Tag' could be something that gets placed on or near the vehicle. Ideally a wheelclamp or a sticker... but could be a traffic cone or gets resprayed the ARAC orange?

If the vehicle moves or is opened within the time... the tag gets removed.

Police or NHS could text ARAC - "Vehicle tagged @ XXXXXX and needs to be removed"
Would be a solution to the trolls but that means an officer has to place this respray or cone. You'll have to wait even longer for the tow truck meanwhile the officer could just impound it when the car shouldn't be on the road.

 
Would be a solution to the trolls but that means an officer has to place this respray or cone. You'll have to wait even longer for the tow truck meanwhile the officer could just impound it when the car shouldn't be on the road.
I meant :

ARAC - have the ability to 'Tag' and get cash for returning after the time limit and tow/ impounding

Police - would chose this option if the vehicle isn't in a dangerous place for RP  

 
I meant :

ARAC - have the ability to 'Tag' and get cash for returning after the time limit and tow/ impounding

Police - would chose this option if the vehicle isn't in a dangerous place for RP  
Aslong the driver of the tow truck can only tow the tagged cars it should be fine from big trolls in my opinion. I'm a little neutral in this suggestion so I'm looking forward in other peoples opinions :)

 
I really like the idea but as alrready mentioned: The risk of trolls are too high. It would mean everyone can simple start impouding/stealing cars at any moment without police authority.
A simple timer should do. Like, This vehicle hasnt been used for the past 15 minutes or more, then this makes the vehicle impoundable. Its a server side timer check. This would eliminate the trolls since, to prevent your vehicle being impounded by this unit, all you need to do is ... use the vehicle

 
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