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The PLF Incident

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Id say attacks between UNMC and PLF ends 50% 50%, if we attack you full force vs full force it usually goes wrong, same with you attacking PLF base.

As saying proven last night, idk about that, we attacked you and got a msg saying you stepped back because you where unable to deal with the big numbers attacking. Later you attacked plf base and tables had turned, then we did not have numbers :p

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/38611227532114645/CC74E4DCDAB41362996895CCD33BBC43B20CAB59/
grannez you misunderstand me my friend i mean people who come in to our lands and try robbing people always ends badly as proved for the gentlemen who tried such a trick last night

, as for our battles winning or losing means nothing to me its just something that needs to be done at the time before we get back down to role playing which is the real reason we are here, i have other games i can play if i want a proper good tear up which is why im always moaning to my guys in teamspeak when ti scurry into our checkpoint when its unmanned as i know im gonna have another 2 hour fight getting them out of there when i could be roleplaying with people who actualy come to our lands for some interaction and not just to be a pain in my ass

 
Id say attacks between UNMC and PLF ends 50% 50%, if we attack you full force vs full force it usually goes wrong, same with you attacking PLF base.

As saying proven last night, idk about that, we attacked you and got a msg saying you stepped back because you where unable to deal with the big numbers attacking. Later you attacked plf base and tables had turned, then we did not have numbers :p

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/38611227532114645/CC74E4DCDAB41362996895CCD33BBC43B20CAB59/
Well to be fair, in this case you guys gave us no heads-up whatsoever, we usually do before we come to attack.

At the time of the attack, I believe we were around 5-8 people on duty. Whilst you guys attacked with TI besides you, which in total is around 25-30 people.

So I wouldn't say the attack last night "proved" anything.

 
Well to be fair, in this case you guys gave us no heads-up whatsoever, we usually do before we come to attack.

At the time of the attack, I believe we were around 5-8 people on duty. Whilst you guys attacked with TI besides you, which in total is around 25-30 people.

So I wouldn't say the attack last night "proved" anything.
Usually we get no heads up because we have a base in the redzone, so if we do give you a heads up it is to be nice, we do not have to do so.

And i never said it proved anything, did I?

 
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Id say attacks between UNMC and PLF ends 50% 50%, if we attack you full force vs full force it usually goes wrong, same with you attacking PLF base.

As saying proven last night, idk about that, we attacked you and got a msg saying you stepped back because you where unable to deal with the big numbers attacking. Later you attacked plf base and tables had turned, then we did not have numbers :p

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/38611227532114645/CC74E4DCDAB41362996895CCD33BBC43B20CAB59/
Did you not?  :)

 
im talking about working alongside other gangs, @Vacatio had massive issues with this last time as it totally destroys what UNMC are about
As I keep repeating every month to the point where I think nobody has actually listened. We remain neutral,but on friendly terms with those who abide by our rules and don't start shit. We assist people in minor ways that request it. If PLF recalls in the first month or two we would help you with bank jobs or selling drugs,but remained neutral and took a step back when it became to frequent. One time at night PLF were trying to use us as a weapon against PMC,but said we would talk to both parties and create a compromise. It was agreed upon it,but the shooting continued and the PLF at night got pissed off we didn't shoot at PMC. That's when I think you guys started having issues with us,but I talked with Grannez about it the next day and internally UNMC decided to take a step back.

On a related note as it also occurs. "Peasant Militia" do appear occasionally during fights usually around the checkpoint. Peasant militia are people usually comprised of hobos or small gangs who for the duration of the fight side with UNMC of their own accord. Typically it is those who go inside gear up,sell drugs and try to leave,but their way out is blocked. They may also feel inclined to help as we protect the people inside our lands. So they take up arms and fight to clear it. They still need to initiate RP unless their fired upon,so report them for RDM if it occurs.

Also before anyone says anything no we do not have control over other people,so complaining about it will accomplish nothing.

 
How do your striders drive over gates? o_O
 
The same happens with hunters and ifrits with enough speed,but they can also break their wheels,flip or go flying occasionally.

 
Whoever is beeping that Striders horn constantly needs to be banned.
 
It is my understanding they were beeping their horn because someone was yelling "Ceasefire!" and were trying to get the attention of those shooting at them,so cool your jets.

 
If you read past what you marked red, you would understand i did not, and if you acually went through the other posts you would also understand it. So please stop acussing me of it.
I might have misunderstood it then, have no intentions of starting an argument about it  :)

 
I am personally sorry for starting this on your thread @pipmonk, all I wanted to do was give wolf a strait answer but then other people got involved.

 
we allie with no-one however we will help out other gangs who ask for it providing they havent broken any of our laws, we never ask for wars with anyone we are here to help people make money but people get greedy and want to try and break our rules which always ends badly for them as proved last night.

As for the war with plf i believe this has been resolved and a mutual understanding has been agreed so we can once again become neutral and stop all this bitching and moaning

ti on the other hand will be dealt with in due cause and im sure that particular war will soon be over and peace will return to altis so that we can all actualy have a bit of role play instead of people running around thinking their on a waste land server
Going to have to disagree with this.

PLF and UNMC were very close for a long period of times. Including such we had constant contact with the UNMC and when the UNMC ventured past their checkpoint PLF were allowed to freely pass any checkpoint the UNMC had installed. We were even permitted free access to the UNMC zone the majority of the time. 

When the UNMC wanted help, we were always happy to be there, dropping everything we were doing and rushing to their aid, which happened on more than a few occasions might I add. We even had requests from the UNMC to join in our bank jobs to which and I quote "we do not want payment, just the chance to kill cops" - something two of my members had been banned only yesterday for.

When we decided to ask the UNMC for assistance with a gang that was in a mutual position for both of us (In the shitter), we were denied and I had quite the discussion from the leader of the UNMC himself on how under absolutely no circumstances should we be asking the UNMC for assistance in any gang vs gang related matters, despite how that gang is contradictory to the original UNMC strife.

On more than a few occasions our members were literally treated like something on the bottom of the UNMC's foot and we realised first hand how damaging the UNMC was to trade and export on Altis, myself and Grannez made the decision to change our alliance with the UNMC, something I had hoped would provide for some fantastic role play. I was wrong, and swiftly the war was called to an end by Vacatio.

When we heard of Ti having enough of the UNMC's shit as well, we decided as part of our and Ti's agreement to be allies back before the UNMC was even a checkpoint, that we'd assist them as long as we both agree on the attack.

Well, I'm not entirely sure of the UNMC's recruitment standards or their training however when you've got 3 armed men aiming a rifle at your head and asking for your name, perhaps "fuck your mum lol" isn't the best of replies. When you're about to execute someone, perhaps "I'll fucking kill you, I'll recognize you and kill you" isn't the best of remembrance for the server rules regarding new life rule.

I respect you out of most people within the UNMC, Blaze - however (along with recent suggestions by yourself), there's an awful lot of work to be done. The UNMC are a white listed group on this community who's initial goal was to provide a rebel group who would help the other rebel groups who's interests lie with those who would fight for a true Altis, a rebel group who would stand in front of the government and deny them. However from there, the UNMC has turned into some kind of military focused policing group who's become contradictive to their original plans and care more for their money they gain from the occasional HEMTT transporting marijuana. You post videos of hunting down lone civilians, you comply with the governments beck and call and give them security in Kavala when they want you to do so and on the rare occasion you're selling drugs in Kavala, you're found ziptieing your own members at the checkpoint trying to kill off boredom. 

 
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Starsky you troll 

 
@starsky! Love you I do

why cant I tag you wtf!!

 
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Locking thread. Nobody can simply enjoy themselves anymore it seems, as it all devolves into shit. 

@Kris! I've noticed that you have not quoted my post,but threw out alot of your opinion. If you have a problem or would simply like to talk contact me via pm or TS. The forums solve nothing and only invite useless drama.

@Starsky! I've noted that both of your brief posts in here are for provocation purposes only. You will be receiving a warning point the next time I see something like this from you in the forums.

 
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