RP Combat Initiation Rules

[jollybud]

So as I understand them the rules as they are right now highly favor robbers. As you all know in combat the person with his gun out and ready first almost always wins. I was just wondering at what point is combat initiated and role play ends. For example the other day I had just finished a profitable copper run and I had a lot of cash. Someone ambushed me outside the copper dealer and told me to stop with his rifle drawn. In response I pulled my pistol and shot him. I felt the fact that he was giving me orders and had a rifle out which I perceived as a immediate threat constituted defending myself. I then turned myself in and the officer agreed that I was indeed justified. However reading other questions on here and the official rules leads me to believe that I actually broke the rules? So I am just supposed to let someone rob me after I spent hours getting money? I know the UK is different but where I live in the U.S. I could legally kill someone for much much less with almost no repercussion. I am just confused because I personally perceive actions to be RP as well and just because someone doesn't say a threat his gun pointing at my face says otherwise. If he did not have a gun drawn I would have complied with his request. I have been accused multiple times of RDM now because people think I should just let them rob me.

 

[PeachMaster]

So as I understand them the rules as they are right now highly favor robbers. As you all know in combat the person with his gun out and ready first almost always wins. I was just wondering at what point is combat initiated and role play ends. For example the other day I had just finished a profitable copper run and I had a lot of cash. Someone ambushed me outside the copper dealer and told me to stop with his rifle drawn. In response I pulled my pistol and shot him. I felt the fact that he was giving me orders and had a rifle out which I perceived as a immediate threat constituted defending myself. I then turned myself in and the officer agreed that I was indeed justified. However reading other questions on here and the official rules leads me to believe that I actually broke the rules? So I am just supposed to let someone rob me after I spent hours getting money? I know the UK is different but where I live in the U.S. I could legally kill someone for much much less with almost no repercussion. I am just confused because I personally perceive actions to be RP as well and just because someone doesn't say a threat his gun pointing at my face says otherwise. If he did not have a gun drawn I would have complied with his request. I have been accused multiple times of RDM now because people think I should just let them rob me.

The most basic answer we have here is this:

If he in any way threatened you then you have the right to respond back in force.

There have been multiple situations where i my self get threatened then i turn around shoot em and move along, don't worry you have not broken any rules.

But in all honesty it ALWAYS depends on the situation at hand, if you end up in trouble you need to decipher the situation and come to a conclusion. 

Usually people who lost will turn to TS and message you that you broke some rules... always happens, so be prepared on that.

Good luck, hopefully a support might shed some further light on this for you

Ill see if i can tag some so i can annoy em while i am at it.

@Kaden  @Samuel Thompson @DI Tampax  @adster mc @James 

OI! DO YOUR WORK GENTS AND REMEMBER! PEACHES ARE LOVE! 

Love you  

 

[Kaden]

@jollybudhop into ts mate ill give you a run down of it.

Do love a good apple me @PeachMaster

 

[adster mc]

To be honest mate it sounds like you didn't do anything wrong, as long as quality roleplay is used by either side and you feel you characters life is in peril , you can react how you see fit

 

[jollybud]

@jollybudhop into ts mate ill give you a run down of it.

Do love a good apple me @PeachMaster

I am currently on break at work. I just though I would post this and hopefully have a response before I played later tonight but you guys answered very fast. Thanks for that. I won't be online for probably another 4-5 hours depending on traffic. If you are online then I will hit you up on TS. Thanks again for the quick response I have had no issues with staff thus far, you guys are great.

The most basic answer we have here is this:

If he in any way threatened you then you have the right to respond back in force.

There have been multiple situations where i my self get threatened then i turn around shoot em and move along, don't worry you have not broken any rules.

But in all honesty it ALWAYS depends on the situation at hand, if you end up in trouble you need to decipher the situation and come to a conclusion. 

Usually people who lost will turn to TS and message you that you broke some rules... always happens, so be prepared on that.

Good luck, hopefully a support might shed some further light on this for you

Ill see if i can tag some so i can annoy em while i am at it.

@Kaden  @Samuel Thompson @DI Tampax  @adster mc @James 

OI! DO YOUR WORK GENTS AND REMEMBER! PEACHES ARE LOVE! 

Love you  

Thanks for the response, I play situations by my gut and in RL if I was being robbed at gunpoint I would not waste time conversing if I thought I had a chance to defend myself.

 

[Kaden]

I am currently on break at work. I just though I would post this and hopefully have a response before I played later tonight but you guys answered very fast. Thanks for that. I won't be online for probably another 4-5 hours depending on traffic. If you are online then I will hit you up on TS. Thanks again for the quick response I have had no issues with staff thus far, you guys are great.

I wont be on then as i will be asleep. (Work tomorrow!) Some of the support members we have here are owls and literally never sleep so you should keep an eye out for them. Question mark tag on TS Orange, Blue or Green. Have fun!

 

[jollybud]

I wont be on then as i will be asleep. (Work tomorrow!) Some of the support members we have here are owls and literally never sleep so you should keep an eye out for them. Question mark tag on TS Orange, Blue or Green. Have fun!

Sleep well friend. It's tough to coordinate this stuff when we live on opposite sides of the planet.

 

[Rick Wolfe]

Sleep well friend. It's tough to coordinate this stuff when we live on opposite sides of the planet.

Im US TImezone to,If you ever see me in TS in the AVC channels feel free to ask anything,I may not be a Support Member but ill help with whatever I can.