Report a Player - YoCo - RDM

[sam357]

Your In-game name

Smith

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

YoCo

Date of the incident

05/27/2016

Time of the incident (GMT)

1434

What best describes this incident ?

RDM

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

I was doing a robbery and was in rp with SPC Hoggie. Suddenly a group of people came in and i told them to leave and so did the officer. I fired a warning shot at the ceiling to get rid of them and then i heard footsteps round the back and then as i turned to defend myself i was shot in the back by YoCo. Even the officer could not believe it. Afterwards the officer text messaged me and informed me that the culprit said i hit him (proved in the screenshot) however the video shows otherwise. Clear RDM as the only shot i fired was the warning shot at the ceiling.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://sendvid.com/ctfd9ncc http://imgur.com/DZCMStS

This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

Also i did not know how to seperate the links so you will have to seperate it manually sorry

https://sendvid.com/ctfd9ncc

http://imgur.com/DZCMStS

 

[YoCo]

You tried to resolve this with me? incorrect.

You shot my friend, it was only then that i returned fire.

In addition to this, i believe this guy combat logged after robbing me earlier.  he played under the alias sam before, but disconnected 30 seconds after robbing me when my friends turned up. It was actually his voice that brought me inside the fuel station.

you can see that i was robbed and that he disconnects 30 seconds later

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1187132


Smith


2016-04-27 14:13:06


SERVER 3


1186999


Sam


2016-04-27 13:05:38


SERVER 3

 

[John Kimble]

You tried to resolve this with me? incorrect.

You shot my friend, it was only then that i returned fire.

To correct this, our friend in the video ([TW] Miller) seemed to have been hit by ricochet, but from our perspective it seemed that he had been shot directly.

 

[sam357]

I asked for your name in the ooc chat and no reply and stop telling rubbish the video shows i did NOT shoot him now im not replying to you again and we can let the admins decide. No hard feelings on a personal level but in terms of RDM on the game you are clearly guilty.

 

[YoCo]

So you didnt try to resolve it with me, you could have asked the officer my name as i was under arrest.

(2.2) RDM - Random Death Match Definition: Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban)

In terms of RDM on the game, it is yourself who is guilty. you shot in the direction of my friend without time to comply; this is in fact the basic definition of the rule.

 

[sam357]

32 minutes ago, CallMeConor said:

You tried to resolve this with me? incorrect.

You shot my friend, it was only then that i returned fire.

In addition to this, i believe this guy combat logged after robbing me earlier.  he played under the alias sam before, but disconnected 30 seconds after robbing me when my friends turned up. It was actually his voice that brought me inside the fuel station.

you can see that i was robbed and that he disconnects 30 seconds later

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I dont believe it is "combat" logging when you log off while in the dominant position. You were the one being robbed and i had revision to do after logging off. i even said to my friend in a skype call i am going to do some revision after i rob 1 more person and i have the time and recording to prove it. If you consider this combat logging then file a report. Im not stopping you. I wasnt in any kind of combat. Also i might add that your friends did not say a word to me and from what i saw they were unarmed. They could have been passer bys for all i could have known so i dont consider it combat logging at all. Never the less this has nothing to do with the rdm incident and does not make you any less guilty. I never once hit any of you with a single bullet and you shot me in the back and killed me. If you want to pursue this "combat logging" situation then report me and take it elsewhere.  Like i said before no hard feelings  

 

[sam357]

So you didnt try to resolve it with me, you could have asked the officer my name as i was under arrest.

(2.2) RDM - Random Death Match Definition: Shooting at someone without engaging in any form of quality role play (eg. Giving enough time for them to comply with your order) is considered RDM. (Punishment is a ban)

In terms of RDM on the game, it is yourself who is guilty. you shot in the direction of my friend without time to comply; this is in fact the basic definition of the rule.

And one last thing i told you to leave and came back so i fired a warning shot AT THE CEILING which was miles from you AND i told you to go and so did the officer. ALL proven in the video

 

[Thesoldier]

Rejected on the RDM

There was roleplay you shot into the ceiling and you can hear someone say Ow, and it appears he was hit.

However,

Combat Logging includes within roleplay, you just robbed someone and disconnect if you're in roleplay, that is still a combat log.
I would like to see your recording of this robbery and where you logged off please. If you do not provide it I will assume you violated a rule and action the ban

 

[sam357]

Just ban me mate im quitting altis life and going to play exile mod anyway. Im sick of treading on eggshells on this server but then that is apparently not rdm. You cant expect everyone to know exactly where to draw the line on your rules. I bet you dont read or give a shit about the rules/ terms and conditions when you download itunes of whatever.If combat logging includes rp then fair enough. My mistake. If that was not rdm i dont know what is. Have fun guys and like i said before its nothing personal. Bye Altis Life UK  

 

[sam357]

Oh and one final thing u say that its combat logging as i was robbinh him but i had finished robbing him and the situation was over and i was leaving so why cant i log off the rp situation had finished

 

[Thesoldier]

He showed a video which shows a potential combat log and you said you had a video, which may prove or disprove it just wanted to see it.

 

[sam357]

I dont have a video as i did not deem it worthy of saving, in fact the words combat log didnt occur to me until it was taken here. I thought nothing of it. From my perspective i robbed him and that was that and i didnt know those people were his friends. I needed to do something else and had actually overstayed on the game as i was only taking a break. I robbed him of £1 with good rp and i ran off and logged. No combat log intended as from my perspective they were no threat as he was unarmed from what i could see and i didnt know they were his friends. They didn't say a word to me so no rp was initiated. So from my point of view there was no combat no rp and no situation so i saw no reason why i shouldn't log off

I will double check none of my other clips cover it but either way no rp occured. Listen to the video. They dont interact with be at all. I dont think that was a combat log. I cant look for the video now as im going to the gym. I will look tomorrow just to prove my innocence. I dont even care about being banned but i hate being made out to be a liar.

 

[Crumble]

Leaving this to @Thesoldier

 

[Thesoldier]

I think your attitude is pretty bad, but seeing as his video doesn't show a combat log, I won't take action. I don't normally explain rejections, but I'll go forward with this by saying why it isn't RDM.

1. You roleplay with the officer and they come up and join the roleplay notifying the officer they believe you robbed them earlier because they heard your voice.

2. You warn them, and fire a shot. You commit a hostile act against them both.

3. Bullets try to have realistic physics in this videogame. They and the officer are within 20 meters, the bullet bounces off the ceiling and hits the one player because you see the jerking animation from being hit so therefore you shot one of them.

4. You focus on the officer and you have initiated on them and shot one of them, they were in their right to kill you as they could have believed the Officer was in danger since you just shot one of them.