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Report a Player - Vincent + Urma - Poor/Low Quality RP (Action Taken)

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Ziffy

Ziffy

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Location
Devon, England
Your In-game name

Lt. Keith

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

Vincent + Urma

Date of the incident

08/07/2017

Time of the incident (GMT)

2315

What best describes this incident ?

Poor/Low Quality RP

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 2

Please (in detail) describe the incident

These guys were following me around in Kavala Green zone and I left to go and get a car out. They wouldn't leave me alone and I told them multiple times to stop following me. After a while, one of them whipped a gun out and said, "Put your hands up or I'm going to kill you". So obviously since I didn't have a weapon I complied. He then said "Be my friend or I'm going to kill you" and these are both very poor initiations. Then, he tells me to bend over, and so I crouch, and he stands behind me and moves backwards and forwards to suggest he's y'know, raping me. Then my buddy turns up out of the blue and they give him a similar initiation before one of them proceeds to tell him he wants to "take his anal virginity" again leaning towards rape. Then we comply well enough until my friend (who they didn't know was my friend at the time) drove away in his car, they then shoot me after I try to explain myself saying I'm just a hobo and there's no point robbing me. I don't have any video of what happened after but I told them to come to TS and they both just logged out straight away.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://youtu.be/GK0NU3P4DAg
This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 
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My friend also got a recording of Vincent combat logging after realising I'd been downed. He walked over to him and initiated and the guy proceeds to disappear infront of his eyes. I completely forgot about this earlier.

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Right after this happened i ran over to where they all were and instead of shooting right away i went to re initiate and they just combat logged, not only from my initiation but from the initial situation with Lt. Keith :

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Screenshot of the other guy combat logging: https://gyazo.com/3b1ba3b523116877030cb15bf63c7d30

 
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Okay, @Ziffy You say their initiation was very poor. Something i agree with, but your friend is doing the same thing? What makes it okay for him and not for the person you are reporting. (just talking about the initiation here, not the rest.)

Also @Urma do you and your friend want to explain yourself?

 
@TikTak I genuinely don't believe his initiation was that bad in comparison. There's a large difference between saying "be my friend or I'll kill you" and "if you pull a gun I'll spray the shit out of you". I think he obviously could have initiated better, but if he hadn't put his hands up and turned around to talk that would have been fine as he never initiated on life. Obviously thought yes, it could have been better from his side, and that is something that collectively we can work on but pretending to rape someone and telling someone to be their friend or else they will die is completely unacceptable. I also think the combat log was ridiculous. He was given plenty of time to back out of leaving menu and yes still decided to abort. I also think it was a bit that he wanted to avenge me in the prospect that my friend had told him about the piss poor initiation. I know from the staff point of view this means nothing but I'm sure he apologises and I can assure you this won't be the case again. 

 
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TikTak said:
but your friend is doing the same thing?
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Just want to add to my side in this, i didn't have to initiate on him at all as i had just witnessed my friend being shot by two armed men. I could have shot them from where i was originally, but instead I ran over to them once i saw them putting their guns away and trying to flee. The only reason i did so was because i was going to try and zip tie them and speak to them properly but i was cut out by the fact that they both combat logged on me, there is no way for me to give a full and proper initiation when a person does that, so it cuts me off and looks bad on my side.

 
@A D A M @Ziffy

Do you have an extended video of the above? I can see that Vincent clearly logs out in front of you but Urma doesn't feature in the video. What I'm after is a video from this chaps perspective:

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But an extended version where I can hear the part where Lt. Keith is hot-micing the bit where he's being held at gunpoint so I can see a full time line of this incident because the above clip is very short and doesn't really give me an idea of how long afterwards that happened compared to when Keith was shot and downed.  

 
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Just now, TCK Matt said:

@A D A M @Ziffy

Do you have an extended video of the above? I can see that Vincent clearly logs out in front of you but Urma doesn't feature in the video. What I'm after is a video from this chaps perspective:

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This is the only video he has and unfortunately, I was pretending to hotmic the initiation to scare these guys off. I had my teamspeak muted throughout the whole thing. However, Vincent clearly combat logged and like I've said previously, my other friend who was there informed Adam of the situation and the poorRP and that is why he briskly came to initiate. But yes, there is no solid evidence that they combat logged from the situation with me however that wasn't what the original report was about.

 
It was late at night and I had about 4-5 seconds left on the abort message. I had a driving exam the next day and really had to get some sleep. I especially went behind a corner to log off before he started initiating.

About the initiation too, we were fucking around for a longer time and these guys really didn't want to roleplay. They were trying avoid roleplay situations and we kind of lost it at the end. I know my initiation was really bad, but because we had talked for such a long time before that I didn't think about high quality initiation that much.

 
I've put a lot of time into thinking about this one, now the first video shows the two gentlemen engaging in some reasonable RP. There's a feeling of a bit of trolling going on I will admit. The hands up or die situation that follows isn't the best, it's not so much the initiation that worries me it's more the role playing of Rape that follows. The second video shows vincent quite clearly combat logging but without that extended video I can't accuse Urma of doing the same.

As @TikTak mentioned your initiation in the second video greatly mirrors the "hands up or die" scenario that you yourselves complain about but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this was shortly after your friend had been shot and that you had provided some sort of a re-initiation out of courtesy and we'll say no more about it. You gents should ensure you're giving high quality role play in your initiations otherwise.

As for the two accused:

(3.6) Roleplaying of questionable subjects like real life terrorism or questionable subjects like rape will not be tolerated if requested by someone involved to stop.

(2.5) Combat logging at any point during RP is exploiting. Some examples of this include: logging out during a firefight, being chased by the police, arrested by the police, while dead awaiting a medic, logging out in order to save gear, rage-quitting, logging out whilst restrained/detained (Punishment is a ban, which may be permanent. *)

(7.1.3) Killing and executing someone must be carried out with high roleplay, “put your hands up or I will shoot” etc is considered low RP and may lead to a ban for RDM/Fail RP.

Vincent - guilty of breaking all three of these rules and there is no other option but a ban. Logging off while being initiated upon because you have a driving exam the following day is not a valid excuse.

Action Taken - (3.6), (2.5), (7.1.3)

Name: Vincent 

Steam ID: 76561198193717228

GUID: cc0334b1631a7f938c6d6ac4889c68f8

Urma - As I have stated I can't say for certain combat logging occurred due to lack of evidence but Urma was just as guilty as Vincent for roleplaying questionable subjects although not the main culprit for the fail RP I still believe some time out to prove you understand our rules is warranted.

Action Taken - (3.6), (7.1.3)

Name: Urma

SteamID: 76561198047916297

GUID: 2a2783dc0be2bc6c228847fe07315f82

 
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