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Report a player - Unknown cop - GTA RP

Jim Carstein

Los Santos Police
Los Santos Police

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Mikey Smith
Reported Players: Unknown cop
Date: Mar 27, 2025
Time: 20:30
What best describes this incident: RDM
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Me and my group saw Summer Hall outside MRPS without security. We decided to go kidnap her. In the video below you can see me try to zip tie her while my friend was holding a gun to her face. We got Summer in the car. After the video cuts out we started being chased. Between the videos there was about 1 min missing of pure chase. Second video picks up the chase and we drove to the FIB building where we decamped on foot. I got out of my car with my shotgun out but didn't point it to anyone, and we got shot without any words being exchanged from the beginning of the kidnaping to end. My friend next to me didn't point his gun or shoot, and my friend that ran in the other direction only got shot after they opened fire on me. I called them to QE where multiple people showed up to help. Cops confirmed that from their side they saw this as poor. The person in question that RDM me didn't show up to QE.
Officers POV: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/jY4Ltfq3Dx7Kemcol?invite=cr-MSw0Z2YsMjc2ODczMg
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/jY4BjDjlVDRwryZwk?invite=cr-MSxLYVQsMTg3Mzg5Njgz
 
Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Mikey Smith
Reported Players: Unknown cop
Date: Mar 27, 2025
Time: 20:30
What best describes this incident: RDM
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Me and my group saw Summer Hall outside MRPS without security. We decided to go kidnap her. In the video below you can see me try to zip tie her while my friend was holding a gun to her face. We got Summer in the car. After the video cuts out we started being chased. Between the videos there was about 1 min missing of pure chase. Second video picks up the chase and we drove to the FIB building where we decamped on foot. I got out of my car with my shotgun out but didn't point it to anyone, and we got shot without any words being exchanged from the beginning of the kidnaping to end. My friend next to me didn't point his gun or shoot, and my friend that ran in the other direction only got shot after they opened fire on me. I called them to QE where multiple people showed up to help. Cops confirmed that from their side they saw this as poor. The person in question that RDM me didn't show up to QE.
Officers POV: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/jY4Ltfq3Dx7Kemcol?invite=cr-MSw0Z2YsMjc2ODczMg
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/jY4BjDjlVDRwryZwk?invite=cr-MSxLYVQsMTg3Mzg5Njgz
@Jim Carstein

Apologise in advance for missing the QE. I didn't QE was called as i was away from my computer after the situation and would of been a lot easier to explain my POV.

So, whilst on duty it came to my attention as i was just about to go state 11 that panic was pressed by a judge outside MRPS. All units on duty responded including G6 as this was a judge. Reports of armed suspects was seen kidnapping the judge and leaving in a white vehicle. At the time being close by and able to catch up to join the pursuit. I was able to assist and coordinate with others units of this situation and where it was heading.

Near to the end of the pursuit where all suspects decamped from the vehicle. In my POV the suspect with the Shotgun looked to have pointed it at myself. Believing my life was at risk, I ended up using my firearm to neutralize a high risk suspect that posed a risk towards members of the public and to themselves. I don't count this as RDM due to the high situation your in and the actions you have taken within RP kidnapping a judge with powerful weapons. I wouldn't believe at the time of you decamping that you would give up due to being very outnumbered and would mostly likely get into a shootout. Words was said for you stop and announcing that they was armed police right next to you. From your POV its hard to hear it which i can agree and looking back, i can see that i was shouting but was on whisper i believe so you wouldn't of heard me.

With that said. This would of been more of an IC issue. But, i do i agree that things could of have been different and could of had a stand off or something. All i can do is apologise on my behalf for shorting the RP and wished leaving things to develop more within the situation could of create so great RP.
 
@Mr Reznikov

As far as I see the situation is as follows. You were about to log off for the day as you had to go but once a panic was activated you decided to join in on a armed robbery. Something of which usually takes a while considering you have to continue the RP with people injured. You got in your vehicle, started a whole chase which you followed to the end. You say you order us to stop and shouted armed police while you were whispering. You also stated in your reply that you saw it as "Difficult to hear" on my clip. It's not "difficult to hear", simply no one heard it. As per the rules you have to make sure the other party has heard demands before any hostile action, and it is your resposibility. Mistakes happen and I always try to first mediate in QE, get to the bottom of it, etc. However not only did you not come to QE, this is also the second time now this has happened. After we were shot and required medical you went off instead of continuing the RP, processing us, etc. From my perspective you just confirmed you joined in on the action for a quick W before sleep, not interested in 1% of the RP.

You wrote this report as if this is an in-game issue where you have to "Justify the use of force". I have no issue with how you use your gun nor do i care as long as server rules are followed. You completely ruined my experience that night as I still had ample opportunity to do a load of options while inside the building. I am even more upset that you are replying as if you don't understand how this could have ruined the sit. Not sure if this only falls under RDM but to say this was Low-Quality RP would be an understatement.
 
@Jim Carstein
You got in your vehicle, started a whole chase which you followed to the end.
When this situation started i was at Davis PD and nowhere near the MRPS when it started. So i couldn't of started the chase but i did join in.

You also stated in your reply that you saw it as "Difficult to hear" on my clip. It's not "difficult to hear", simply no one heard it. As per the rules you have to make sure the other party has heard demands before any hostile action, and it is your responsibility.
Now, i do agree with what your saying. However, "Party has heard demands before any hostile action". You have already taken hostile action by kidnapping a judge resulting in most of the police force after you. Then you lost the judge when you decamped which means there is no demands needed. You were high risk suspects with powerful weapons on which you would at the time get treated as highly dangerous individuals.

But with all do respect and already mentioned in my last reply what could have been different as i agree with what you previously said. The RP could of have been different and your demands meet in the building.
i do i agree that things could of have been different and could of had a stand off or something. All i can do is apologise on my behalf for shorting the RP and wished leaving things to develop more within the situation could of create so great RP.
Mistakes happen and I always try to first mediate in QE, get to the bottom of it, etc. However not only did you not come to QE, this is also the second time now this has happened. After we were shot and required medical you went off instead of continuing the RP, processing us, etc. From my perspective you just confirmed you joined in on the action for a quick W before sleep, not interested in 1% of the RP.
Firstly i didn't know at the time that QE was called as i was AFK, By the time i got back it was too later so i was expecting this ti happen and by able to tell my POV. After the situation had been cleared, i went back to MRPS to make sure the judge was okay and was in the station.

I could of stayed on scene and assisted with what needed done and that's poor by myself. But to call me out for a W mentality is ridiculous. It doesn't matter if I have just got on duty, put myself in a situation or about to go state 11 and i thought i help in an on going situation. That never leaves me thinking to go a get W and leave again. Unlike some people in this city that do that, i don't.

You completely ruined my experience that night as I still had ample opportunity to do a load of options while inside the building. I am even more upset that you are replying as if you don't understand how this could have ruined the sit.

As i had stated before with my last reply. Yes things could have been different if the situation was able to continue but you was seen as a high risk suspects which at the decamped site. Looked to have pointed a shotgun at my face resulting in my UoF to protect myself. I fully understand that this my leave you in unhappy mood. But you also have to take into consideration that the RP you want, my not go as predicted.

With all that has been said. Let me remind you that i haven't come in hear to point fingers. I clearly stating that this doesn't full under RDM as you point yourself in this situation with the choices you made as an armed suspect and is an IC issue. But i will say that i agree 100% that this situation could of been different/better and for things to continue.
 
As stated i believe things could of have a lot better from my behalf and happy to take to Poor RP as i believe is correct in account of my action. It isn't nice to hear from fellow officers that has left unhappy so i take full responsibility of punishment on my accounts i know where i want wrong. I don't believe this is RDM but so believe things could have changed and been a lot better. All i can say is that i'll be taking my own actions with this case moving forward to insure it doesn't happen again
 
Good afternoon @Mr Reznikov

Do you have a recording to prove that a shotgun was allegedly aimed at you, prompting your actions? As stated here:
In my POV the suspect with the Shotgun looked to have pointed it at myself. Believing my life was at risk, I ended up using my firearm to neutralize a high risk suspect
 
Hello @Scott

That was the first thing i was looking for but unfortunately It didn't save. I have already seen jim's POV that in fact he didn't point it towards me. So I am mistaken of this fact. Within the moment as stated i believed he did, that's why i used my UoF. I agree with this situation that it should of continued without the UoF. This was on me and hope moving forward that i work on my situation awareness a lot more before making a call like it did to use my UoF in any scenario. I agree with the poor RP and it should of been better. One day i hope to prove to the complaining party that i can in fact provided fun RP for all as i have done so many times before. This was just a bad call by myself in this scenario
 
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