Report a player - Session ID 70 - GTA RP

andr3w · Monday at 5:24 PM

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Andrew Lecter
Reported Players: Session ID 70
Date: Mar 24, 2025
Time: 15:30
What best describes this incident: (G1.1) Random Vehicle Death Match (RVDM) // (G1.5) Powergaming
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Myself and several other grove members were selling at the vineyard selling spot, when several police units abruptly arrived at the location.
I was personally target, as i was in a convenient spot for the police to attempt a box maneuver.

Displayed in my provided video, an officer with the session ID 70 initially made contact with me, giving verbal demands for me to disembark from my vehicle. At timestamp 03:06, first verbal contact was made, and at timestamp 03:08 i was mid air after getting rammed by the police vehicle operated by ID 70. At timestamp 03:15 i had a gun aimed at my person, as i was just getting back on my feet.

After the situation ended, myself and the player reported discussed the situation in a RPUK liason channel. The conversation was respectfull and both parties shared their pov off the situation. I was informed that ID 70 did not intend to ram me off my vehicle, but was infact attempting to box me in with the help off his associates vehicles. It quickly became obvious we had different opinions on the quality off the roleplay that had happened. In an attempt to explain my opinion i was quoting the two rules mentioned above, when ID 70 left the liason channel mid-way through my sentance.

Although i have understanding for the police tactics used in the situation, i dont believe the way this was handeled was in any way fair for myself.
The rules state, and i quote " Forcing a scenario where no matter the roleplay of the other party you will win "
The rules also state, and i quote " Attacking another player without engaging in any form of quality roleplay is considered RDM. "

I was infact attacked, 2 secounds after roleplay had been initiated by the other party and given absolutely no chance to impact the outcome off the situation. Regardless if the " RVDM " was an accident or not, the police exploited that fact to surround me and remove all other avenues off roleplay.
I personally believe this is a typical case off police win-mentality, where at any cost they will operate in grey areas and use every situation to their advantage to secure the win on their end. I will further add that ID 70 mentioned in the liason channel, about a situation occuring earlier the same day where grove and police had a lethal confrontation. I was given the impression this was one off the motivating factors to how aggressive the police initiated this situation. I can not help but feel like certain officers were motivated by vengeance, and willing to go to any length to secure a win for themselves.

Looking back at the situation, i wish that i was allowed to get back onto my vehicle after the un-intentional RVDM. The roleplay situation could have evolved in many different ways, had i been allowed to contribute in the situation unfolding. Sadly ID 70 made the choice for me, and abused the fact i was RVDM'd to surround me.

I do not feel like high quality roleplay was at all the main priority in this scenario.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/nb/games/gta-v/clips/jWMdha99uM7TYs_MD?invite=cr-MSxxZ20sNDIxOTczNjQ

M · Monday at 7:04 PM

Good evening,

Its unfortunate that you have decided to report me for this. We did speak in liaison, however I informed you that we weren't going to see eye to eye and that I had another player waiting to RP with me. I had delegated some RP to a colleague to facilitate a quick QE discussion, but had to go.

I will first deal with the allegations of rule breaking against me.

(G1.1) Random Vehicle Death Match (RVDM)
Using your vehicle as a weapon (Running players over, causing explosions, ramming player vehicles) without a valid roleplay reason is considered RVDM.

Use of vehicle as a weapon - My vehicle was not used as a weapon in this instance. Myself and my colleagues had planned to use our vehicle to box your bike in. This is common practice on the server and may be done without prior RP - hence pre-emptive box tactics. We had attempted to perform the maneuverer and had failed to do so as you had escaped from the incoming box. You turned your vehicle around into the path of my vehicle which had started to chase you. It is unfortunate for you that we collided as our paths had crossed. I did not 'ram' your vehicle. A collision (whether with locals, street furniture, or other players) in a pursuit is a natural risk and both parties take on this risk when participating in this.
Without Valid Roleplay Reason - The valid roleplay reason is that my character is a Police Officer targeting a drug hotspot. The more aggressive approach was chosen because Grove Street are known to be armed with firearms whilst dealing drugs and have used them to shoot police and raid a police station earlier that day.

(G1.5) Powergaming
Forcing a scenario where no matter the roleplay of the other party you will win. Example: Roleplaying superpowers, roleplaying fatal injuries when they were only minor to avoid roleplaying with the emergency services, sealing buildings with cars to prevent entrance of other players, using knowledge of the rules within roleplay.

No matter the roleplay of the other party, you will win - You still had feet to run with, you still had friends in the area, you still could speak (well not with your voice chat off). You wouldn't have been shot, had you have not drawn and pointed a firearm at a police officer in front of you.

In summary, I didn't intend to hit you with my vehicle, it was just an unfortunate collision. The RP should naturally continue as that is a risk of running from the police.

By comparison, your own actions in the situation undermine your argument.

(G2.1) Microphone
Microphones are required on RPUK servers.

Whilst you do have a microphone, you had this turned off in-game during the crucial stages of RP. If you are so adamant that you should have been allowed to get back onto the vehicle, how would you have turned your microphone back on in the settings menu whilst in a police chase?

(G1.5) Powergaming
Forcing a scenario where no matter the roleplay of the other party you will win. Example: Roleplaying superpowers, roleplaying fatal injuries when they were only minor to avoid roleplaying with the emergency services, sealing buildings with cars to prevent entrance of other players, using knowledge of the rules within roleplay.

Using knowledge of the rules within roleplay - Whilst downed, you asked which officer rammed you off your bike - most likely to use session heads to identify who I was. You decided to do this over roleplaying your injuries which is expected of you under rule G4.4 "You have been injured to the point that you have been incapacitated and you must roleplay your injuries."

(G2.12) Poor Quality Roleplay
You must provide quality roleplay at all times taking into account every players direct and indirect experience... Attempting to avoid the aftermath of a situation where you are downed by using /me dead or /me no pulse or similar...

Roleplaying fatal injuries when they were only minor to avoid roleplaying with the emergency services / attempting to avoid the aftermath of a situation where you are downed by using /me dead or /me no pulse or similar... - I'm not suggesting that your injuries couldn't have been fatal, but your choice to respawn was inconsistent with the RP the paramedics were providing at the time. You could have extended the roleplay interaction with the paramedics by engaging with their treatment, perhaps going to hospital to undergo surgery, or dying more realistically. Respawning immediately after the Paramedic stating that

Mark · 2025-03-26T02:01:10+0000

Hello @andr3w , do you have anything further to say in this report in reply to M? Or shall we proceed with the report?

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