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Report a player - Ross Hutch - GTA RP

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Your In-game Name: Kip Wilson

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: Ross Hutch

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 01/27/23

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 645

What best describes this incident ?: (C1.14) and OOC.

Please (in detail) describe the incident: Hello,
This guy spoke out of OOC yesterday in this video didn't not attend discord like everyone else did the only guy that didn't, Ram a staff member was there.
VIDEO: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/SkQwvBZVjRLoo/d1337sz0ymnp

I am using the radio telling my colleagues to go on a call sign, The same guy Ross Hutch tells me im going to get deported which I believe is (C1.14)

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):



https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/SsrxVBao_Cb1_/d1337gTaBDqJ



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 
So this situation there was myself, you and someone else that broke character. I will be collecting evidence of you also breaking character. I admitted to breaking character to RAs. if I am going to be punished for out of character the same should apply to yourself. I could not of joined the discord as there was a 5/5 limit the lobby was full of which I said to pablo. 

 
So this situation there was myself, you and someone else that broke character. I will be collecting evidence of you also breaking character. I admitted to breaking character to RAs. if I am going to be punished for out of character the same should apply to yourself. I could not of joined the discord as there was a 5/5 limit the lobby was full of which I said to pablo. 
Please do post your bodycam of this situation, I never broke OOC myself of what I remember. This morning I woke up and came on, you telling me I am going to get deported for being AFK in the police station which should be a safe place considering locked doors. 

 
In relation to your comment I do not have my body cam but however in your body cam you slightly break character also. Again this morning the call sign issue we spoken about and I do not remember using the word deported so and if I did that was not the word I meant to use I meant to say you are coming in to the city and going afk and getting paid of which I thought would of been a sackable offence. Ever since the complaint you made about Jason you have been trying to report me and Jason for everything as per your comment to pablo " I am going to get them reported as I'm sick of them being here" Now the issue I have is that I would have been happy to speak about things properly and sort this issue man to man but I do not appreciate things being spoken behind my back especially to other members of the city. I understand my out of character I admit my fault and I am looking at ways to change that. But do not speak badly of me to other people I prefer if you would speak any issues directly with myself.
 
In relation to your comment I do not have my body cam but however in your body cam you slightly break character also. Again this morning the call sign issue we spoken about and I do not remember using the word deported so and if I did that was not the word I meant to use I meant to say you are coming in to the city and going afk and getting paid of which I thought would of been a sackable offence. Ever since the complaint you made about Jason you have been trying to report me and Jason for everything as per your comment to pablo " I am going to get them reported as I'm sick of them being here" Now the issue I have is that I would have been happy to speak about things properly and sort this issue man to man but I do not appreciate things being spoken behind my back especially to other members of the city. I understand my out of character I admit my fault and I am looking at ways to change that. But do not speak badly of me to other people I prefer if you would speak any issues directly with myself.
I asked you to come discord on both occasions on none of them you came or contacted me. Roleplay is Roleplay your character stays in roleplay it is not you like irl? confused 

 
I could not come to discord on first occasion the discord channel was full mate yesterday when he had knife to you. I even said this. Now if you mentioned today i didnt see the message so thats why I would not have came to discord. If you would like to resolve this between myself and yourself I am happy to talk on discord and have this post removed and not involve staff where it was an issue on both our sides and a lack of communication

 
So this situation there was myself, you and someone else that broke character. I will be collecting evidence of you also breaking character. I admitted to breaking character to RAs. if I am going to be punished for out of character the same should apply to yourself. I could not of joined the discord as there was a 5/5 limit the lobby was full of which I said to pablo. 
You accuse me of breaking OOC which you have no evidence which I didn't

In relation to your comment I do not have my body cam but however in your body cam you slightly break character also. Again this morning the call sign issue we spoken about and I do not remember using the word deported so and if I did that was not the word I meant to use I meant to say you are coming in to the city and going afk and getting paid of which I thought would of been a sackable offence. Ever since the complaint you made about Jason you have been trying to report me and Jason for everything as per your comment to pablo " I am going to get them reported as I'm sick of them being here" Now the issue I have is that I would have been happy to speak about things properly and sort this issue man to man but I do not appreciate things being spoken behind my back especially to other members of the city. I understand my out of character I admit my fault and I am looking at ways to change that. But do not speak badly of me to other people I prefer if you would speak any issues directly with myself.
You now accuse me of " I am going to get them reported as I'm sick of them being here" I beg you show me this. I really do not think about you that much @zVBaLor at all. I'd love to see your evidence or is it accusing me something which didn't happen cause I feel its like that

I could not come to discord on first occasion the discord channel was full mate yesterday when he had knife to you. I even said this. Now if you mentioned today i didnt see the message so thats why I would not have came to discord. If you would like to resolve this between myself and yourself I am happy to talk on discord and have this post removed and not involve staff where it was an issue on both our sides and a lack of communication
I am not going to discord with you cause you will just bring up stories and situations in roleplay like you have in this post. I am not here about your character I am here for you telling me I am going to get deported for being afk in the police station... You clearly say it in the video

 
like I said mate I explained I may have used wrong wording of this you could of just asked me to clarify what I meant. I have only gave examples here of which replates to the reasons you have mentioned in your report. If you wish to carry on that is your choice but everyone makes mistakes and it seems you have been trying to catch me and Jason for a while. I am not going to sit and argue over this I have admitted where I was wrong and where I made mistakes and could have been better but I guess you cant do the same. 

like I said mate I explained I may have used wrong wording of this you could of just asked me to clarify what I meant. I have only gave examples here of which replates to the reasons you have mentioned in your report. If you wish to carry on that is your choice but everyone makes mistakes and it seems you have been trying to catch me and Jason for a while. I am not going to sit and argue over this I have admitted where I was wrong and where I made mistakes and could have been better but I guess you cant do the same. 

also to add (C1.13) Idling - We have one of the busiest Roleplay communities in Europe, therefore, if you need to go to the shops or go away from your PC for more than 5 minutes then please kindly disconnect from the game servers. this is the point I was making about you idling in PD you were inactive for 15mins so you were disconnected. 

Also Pablos twitch stream will show you both on about reporting us. I will see if I can see the old stream from last night. 

You were both talking about reporting me and Jason on stream I have found the evidence I am clipping it and will attach of which again you can not speak about reporting as its OOC

 
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like I said mate I explained I may have used wrong wording of this you could of just asked me to clarify what I meant. I have only gave examples here of which replates to the reasons you have mentioned in your report. If you wish to carry on that is your choice but everyone makes mistakes and it seems you have been trying to catch me and Jason for a while. I am not going to sit and argue over this I have admitted where I was wrong and where I made mistakes and could have been better but I guess you cant do the same. 

like I said mate I explained I may have used wrong wording of this you could of just asked me to clarify what I meant. I have only gave examples here of which replates to the reasons you have mentioned in your report. If you wish to carry on that is your choice but everyone makes mistakes and it seems you have been trying to catch me and Jason for a while. I am not going to sit and argue over this I have admitted where I was wrong and where I made mistakes and could have been better but I guess you cant do the same. 

also to add (C1.13) Idling - We have one of the busiest Roleplay communities in Europe, therefore, if you need to go to the shops or go away from your PC for more than 5 minutes then please kindly disconnect from the game servers. this is the point I was making about you idling in PD you were inactive for 15mins so you were disconnected. 

Also Pablos twitch stream will show you both on about reporting us. I will see if I can see the old stream from last night. 
I would of came to discord as well if you didn't message me trying to talk me down by starting your message with "Doing what your doing is not going to gain you any friends mate"

Cool man make a report about it instead of telling me im getting deported for it thats what the staff do

go for it. We filed a complaint in roleplay yes which you do not know about IC only unless you metagamed it from the stream. alright I'm  going to stop replying cause you obviously love to argue 

 
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I am the only one here admitting where I have gone wrong. I will attach all evidence of your stuff shortly. Like I said wanted to speak to you about it instead of forums but guess the maturity is just not there so I will take official routes 

 
Hello as per the above we have spoken on discord but I would still like to re-edit all of the above and re-word my replies as after reviewing over the comments I can see that I may have came across in a way that I did not mean to. 

The first situation I am going to speak about will the the first report for G2.3 of breaking character. I admit there is one sentence in the evidence supplied where I did indeed break character. This was where I mentioned "You can't break RP you would not find a cop doing that out of city" I have learnt from my out of character mistakes and after carefully looking over the rules I understand further now that I must not break character unless spoken to directly by a staff member. I could have done better in this case and requested to take this out of city and into a discord chat. 

In relation to me not joining discord afterwards to speak about this with yourselves this is because the room was full and It would not allow me to join. 

However in the first scenario the only time I broke character was when mentioning the quote I previously referenced the rest of the time I was in fact in character as at this time my cop had anger towards Kip and Pablo due to them spreading round the city that I was corrupt as heard in the video when I said the line "You call me a corrupt cop" 

I would also like to note on the first scenario there was rule break from Kip of G2.3 as they also broke character however you can not hear their audio on the clip. 

In relation to the second rule break of which mention I made threats to report, I personally did not hear this in the evidence that you supplied. We were speaking about the call sign and being on the call sign then I tried to mention that Kip was also breaking rule C1.13 and tried to explain this without breaking character. I mentioned that Kip was stood still then you got deported for idling (which I thought deported means kicked from server in city)  of which at no points were any threats made to report Kip I was just meaning that they were kicked for idling of which on the logs should show they were kicked for AFK as they were stood in PD for 15mins.

Again in this clip there was no audio from Kips side to show the full conversation of what went on of which would have gave more context to this scenario. On the evidence Kip supplied towards the end you see  Kip also began a message to say "Join discord or I will" then cleared the I will and changed it to "well you know the scenario" which I believe is breaking the rule C1.14.

I believe their is fault and misunderstanding on both parties I can accept breaking character on the first instance however I am unsure of how I made any threats in the second. 

I have recently learnt from my recent mistakes of being out of character and I hope that this can be resolved without leaving to any further punishments. As I have had time recently to reflect on the out of character and made changes to prevent this happening again. 

Thank you for time in reading this. 

 
Hello as per the above we have spoken on discord but I would still like to re-edit all of the above and re-word my replies as after reviewing over the comments I can see that I may have came across in a way that I did not mean to. 

The first situation I am going to speak about will the the first report for G2.3 of breaking character. I admit there is one sentence in the evidence supplied where I did indeed break character. This was where I mentioned "You can't break RP you would not find a cop doing that out of city" I have learnt from my out of character mistakes and after carefully looking over the rules I understand further now that I must not break character unless spoken to directly by a staff member. I could have done better in this case and requested to take this out of city and into a discord chat. 

In relation to me not joining discord afterwards to speak about this with yourselves this is because the room was full and It would not allow me to join. 

However in the first scenario the only time I broke character was when mentioning the quote I previously referenced the rest of the time I was in fact in character as at this time my cop had anger towards Kip and Pablo due to them spreading round the city that I was corrupt as heard in the video when I said the line "You call me a corrupt cop" 

I would also like to note on the first scenario there was rule break from Kip of G2.3 as they also broke character however you can not hear their audio on the clip. 

In relation to the second rule break of which mention I made threats to report, I personally did not hear this in the evidence that you supplied. We were speaking about the call sign and being on the call sign then I tried to mention that Kip was also breaking rule C1.13 and tried to explain this without breaking character. I mentioned that Kip was stood still then you got deported for idling (which I thought deported means kicked from server in city)  of which at no points were any threats made to report Kip I was just meaning that they were kicked for idling of which on the logs should show they were kicked for AFK as they were stood in PD for 15mins.

Again in this clip there was no audio from Kips side to show the full conversation of what went on of which would have gave more context to this scenario. On the evidence Kip supplied towards the end you see  Kip also began a message to say "Join discord or I will" then cleared the I will and changed it to "well you know the scenario" which I believe is breaking the rule C1.14.

I believe their is fault and misunderstanding on both parties I can accept breaking character on the first instance however I am unsure of how I made any threats in the second. 

I have recently learnt from my recent mistakes of being out of character and I hope that this can be resolved without leaving to any further punishments. As I have had time recently to reflect on the out of character and made changes to prevent this happening again. 

Thank you for time in reading this. 


Please stop bringing your allegations of me breaking rules onto this thread its kind of threatening for no reason when their is a right way to go about it. I told you this on the comments above.

"Cool man make a report about it instead of telling me im getting deported for it thats what the staff do"

Another thing anything that happens IC I do not care about unless its a rule break. I do not care if you are a corrupt cop OOC. I come on the server to Roleplay, I feel its a safe haven for my mental health, I don't come on the server to be shouted at in a way which makes me feel uncomfortable its not the only time you've done this to me its happened multiple other times. 

Therefore I am removing my resolved in discord as you have continued by accusing me when it should be dealt with the correct way. I feel you are bringing all these things up and in my understanding its revenge reporting, I feel its a really manipulative way you are doing it. I am not here to argue with people, make people feel crap, I'm here to have fun and provide good RP. 

First sentence of the discord message I recevied from you :

"Doing what your doing is not going to gain you any friends mate"

How is making a report about someone going to lose me friends which I have gained on the server? 

In my eyes your comment is saying don't report players, you won't get gain anymore friends. 

 
Your report is currently being reviewed, Please be patient while the evidence is reviewed

Please keep checking this report regularly just in case the reviewing staff member has any questions

Thank you for your report and you doing your part to keep our community clean!

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Thank you for taking the time to make a player report @RichieRichUK

One thing to keep in mind that for reports we do need session id's shown or a form of ID to identify the players overall, Just something to keep in mind for future reports. Now overall there seems to be a lot of things being brought out of RP into IRL. This shouldn't happen, You are not your characters and need to separate yourselves from the RP. If someone has broken a rule then this is why we have liaisons and moving forth the report section to where we will look over the evidence provided and go from there. In relation to reports overall, Session ID's are normally required to show who was who in the situation however given recent events and the posts made it is obvious who everyone is in the clip, Jason and Ross being the two police in front of Kip, Then Pablo behind. 

I will say that this discord liaison the first one, It was confirmed that the channel was indeed full so not everyone could of got into the same room to discuss the issues, Could be why this didn't take place and something to keep in mind if you are asking for people to come and talk about an RP situation. 

Moving onto the evidence provided. I'll start with the second clip since this is the shorter one to go through overall, Now in this was the radio situation where @zVBaLand Jason we're trying to get Kip down to PD. Throughout this part there is one thing to mention and that's the following that come from yourself here Ross, "It's also a breach of contract coming on duty and going out your head to then get deported for inactivity on duty. Kip responds he doesn't know what you are going on about and in turn you said "My body cam says otherwise"".

In relation to the idling rule, Indeed there is a rule regarding this however in this case you are referencing you said Kip was inside the police station at the time. We do understand IRL things come up and that's why if he was idling for an amount of time then indeed he would be kicked overall, Something yourself mentions in the clip. You do state you can get "Deported" for doing such a thing, Within RP it doesn't make much sense and that's why Kip I'd assume responded the way he did claiming not to know what you we're talking about as this is going out of character. 

In relation to police employment ect this is more RP related as a whole and if their we're issues within RP then there is a complaints form at the front desk. Lets move onto the first clip at the gas station. 

During this clip Kip is being held hostage by an Unknown male. During this time you can see that he was asking for money and got to the point that Jason asked Pablo if he would pay more money, However he did refuse and the Unknown male was in turn tazered. It's not fully known what happened to lead to the tazer being used however there is more to this than meets the eye, So from a staffing point it's unclear if any rule was broken to this point. 

After the Unknown male was cuffed Ross and Jason are going around shouting saying "You can't do that" over and over, To the point the Unknown male did break character. Pablo did place the male into the car and he was pulled out by Ross. Kip asked why this was done and in response you did break character again Ross claiming you cannot break RP even though you did the exact same thing here. 

Following this you mention you do not see a real police officer doing that and attempt to taze Kip. In this situation you are very very heated and you have let your anger get the better of you to the point it's not roleplay anymore. One thing to keep in mind, Two wrongs don't make a right. 

Conclusion;

After reviewing the evidence provided and waiting to see if there was going to be any more submitted due to your comments @zVBaLthere doesn't appear to be anymore to this that either side has provided. From what I've watched it is disappointing to see that we are taking this from RP and this is being used against others due to their RP character. As mentioned above, We are not our characters and what happens in RP should remain in RP. 

In relation to the C1.14 I'd not say this was a threat to report however it is breaking character as a whole, Same as what was mentioned in the Gas station. Giving this is the case I will be going ahead and issuing a Permanent Ban on Ross for his actions within the situations as a whole. 

CharID: 86293 
Ban: G2.3
Duration: Permanent


 
Thank you for doing your part in keeping the community clean.

Your report has been approved and action has been taken against the reported player.

If you are out of pocket due to this case please now open a compensation request here, Do make sure to mention this report.

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