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BASIC1

BASIC1

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Report a player 

Your In-game Name: Alan Fish

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: not sure

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 12/07/23

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 11

What best describes this incident ?: win mentality/poor rp

Please (in detail) describe the incident: Me and another Alliance member had an objective, this was to get "the don" out of jail, we decided on the route of taking a g6 hostage as it can be fun RP, and can I just thank the G6 officer not sure of his name it might be George, cause he could of "took his chance" but decided not to in the heart of RP. Now they demanded I put my gun down, I comply, they then tell me were gonna lockdown the prison, I suggested they did not do that and his reply was something along the lines of, "TO LATE!" I was shocked by this as I am trying to RP with them and they just keep telling me to put my hands up and im just thinking like what is going on I have a hostage is your job not to de-escalate? so then when we are escorting the g6 and "the don" to the gates and we get flashed. we did liase but he was just to loud and sassy I couldn't deal with it without getting angry so I left, in the liason he says my RP was bad so that is what made him throw the stun. I am just trying to show how these guys play police, they wanna win so badly then when questioned get angry, imo this is part of the decline people try to rp and get stun grenaded lol, and can i add the fact they flash everyone, there flashing outside, imo a flashbang should only be used to clear buildings.

They had a blackhawk, loads of firearms, I believe that they could of gotten us much better than the way they did, but ill leave that for staff to make a decision. im happy to review clips and reply but im not gonna sit here and argue about it like a child. cheers

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):



https://youtu.be/vsKSQA4mSvA



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 
Alright mate. 

Win mentality is not a rule.

The reason I flashed you was clear and I said this in the liason that started off calm when I explained our side of it until someone else interupted me and then he told the rest of the story.

I was in the blackhawk and arrived as you were coming in the front gate, I was on the roof above you the whole time watching the shit show happen bellow. I got calls over the radio that you werent willing to do negotiations (which it seems you werent and just demanding) therefore, if you wouldnt listen to us and want to do a decent hostage RP, you will have to face the consequences of not creating a fool proof plan to get out. 

Along with this, in the liason I mentioned that you are inside of a prison, getting prisoners out shouldnt be easy to do it. If you had better leeway with better weapons, more hostages and better overall RP, it wouldve gone far different.

Along with you saying "I have a hostage" quite frequently acting like that is a shield to not getting arrested is shocking. 

Any questions let me know.

 
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Although I still think this was poor rp and win mentality from u lot, i respect u coming forth and providing an answer. i will be waiting for a reply from staff as im intrested to see how they see it. cheers

 
Good evening, @BASIC1thanks for making this report!

May I ask what rule breaks you think have occurred here during this situation? 
PoorRP / Win Mentality do not fall under any of the rule codes. 

 
BWV from my side as AD-1 (Ginger hair holding gun). As police it felt like we had no other way, it just felt like these guys came with just two of them and expected to go past multiple AFOS AND FTOC officers as well as 99 with one G6 hostage, and try and get their friend out. It was rather poor. 

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@Danooso what am I supposed to do if I can not liase? and even if he believed he was wrong for throwing the flash what punishment is he gonna get? I've brought up this report to get a staff opinion because if I open a ticket I will be told to come here and make a report. If this is just gonna get denied because it "doesn't fall under rule codes" then can I at least have a staff opinion on if the flash should of been thrown or not. I feel like you should defenitely be able to make a report for poor rp weather its bannable or not as its a "serious rp server" 

 
Hi @BASIC1, I hope all is well! 🙂

At no point had I mentioned this was going to be denied because it "doesn't fall under rule codes".
I was gently asking, to get a better understanding of this report and see if you believed it fell under any specific rule codes for us to review. 

There was no need to be acting so defensively here.
 

 
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I apologise if my response felt aggressive or defensive, i just assumed it would of gotten denied, thats my bad. 

 
Might aswell add a note from the side of G6, this was a unfortunate for your planning, the CCTV from the hospital showed you taking Richard hostage and the other 4 of us who were in pelato decided to have 1 go check pillbox and the other 3 went to prison incase of a attempted escape, we had

Myself in the archway which is after the first 2 gates, Jessie up in the tower watching the entrance and mason on the prison cameras checking the location of the prisoners, police had allready been informed of a possible breakout so we're ready to deploy and the moment you drove up to that gate panic buttons were pressed to alert of your presence

Once you were half way through the gates the police said for the lockdown then a few moments later there was a radio of they are refusing to negotiate with us

Albeit my response probably makes no matter to the situation? But I commend you planning and trying to do the escape but it would have been against you as I presume you had no idea there was another 4 G6 about who got alerted of your hostage taking which allowed us to plan and organise it was 50/50 your either breaking in or robbing Richard

Was fun tho allways like some excitement 🙂

 
Just want to add here, during the liason with yourself, the only person who got pressed was yourself. We were explaining our side before you kept interupting another officer on scene saying "this is the reason the server is dying" which im sure, not only I dont appreciate, the others there wont appreciate it either.

Thanks again & thanks @Danoofor such quick replies.

 
Your report is currently being reviewed, Please be patient while the evidence is reviewed

Please keep checking this report regularly just in case the reviewing staff member has any questions

Thank you for your report and you doing your part to keep our community clean!

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i might drop in aswell. this is the intire situations from start to finish:https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/1HWSyYoG_9lw7w/d1337kcrkohp?invite=cr-MSxoRmIsMTE4NTY4NTU0LA

I was the office that tried to negotiate with you BTW.

The intial contact is made when the panic button of the G6 officer is pressed, it was just unlucky for you guys that we were right ontop of you from the beginning. Lets call it bad timing.

We saw you and your friend pointing a gun at an group6 officer so obviouslyt we intervened. It became clear very quickly that this was an attempted prisonbreak and you used to G6 officer as leverage. This in basics is fine and indeed an great setup for some good high qaulity RP. 

AS we are supposed to do as police officers i tried to make contact with you, I intially told you guys to place your hands up and surrender. Of cours I know this wasnt going to happen but it was worth and try. After that i ask your demands, uppon this qeustion you basicly told me your plan and what you were going to do and thats it. You said something along the lines of: "Im going to get my friend out of prison, thats whats going to happen. I dont want spikestrips". thats was it from your demands. You indeed complied with lowering your gun when i asked you do to it, thjis was only for about 3 secons when you decided to aim it at me and my fellow officers. During this you kept walking and just screaming that we need to stay back and you were getting your friend out. thats basicly all the "great RP"i received from you. 

I gave you my demands, I told you to stop moving, I told you to started talking WITH me. You and your pal just refused to do so. I called this out over the radio, were uppon Matthew decided rightfully so to throw a flashbang and end this nonsense. Your statement that we are using force on everyone surrounding the flashbang with his usage is indeed true. Does it matter? NO. The flashbang is a non lethal method to dissorientate the threat and apprehand them without a use of lethal force. its sucks in the moment for everyone who gets flashed but they are rewarded with staying healthy and not getting shot at (or being sat risk the be caught up in the crossfire), because that getting shot at was the alternative in this situation. 

I dont really know what you guys expected that was going to happen. You had 1 hostage and only one firearm that possed an actual threat to us. You went into a maximum security prison thinking you were just gonna walk in, point a gun at an hostage and get away with it. During this group6 was holding you under gunpoint and the LSPS was there in large numbers to protect the prison and keep you out and the prisoners in.

I have not even started with the complete lack of RP from your side. You did keep talking but you said the same stuff over and over. You werent actually asking for demands, you only said what your intentions were. It was not an interesting scenario at all. I find it pathetic that you report us for poor RP and a win mentality. When you tried to commit a massive crime with barely any high qaulity RP and an general idiotic strategie to begin with. This is an serious Roleplay Server, were you are supposed to put effort in every RP interaction and i dont think that if you are really honest to your self  can you really think this was serious RP, like you basicly just tried to walk into a prison with only 2 associates, 1 pistol and a hostage and expected to be just left alone and walk back out with the attitude you had against the intire police force surrounding you. Like common man, its just silly.

When im playing as my police character im not there to win all the time, if people put effort into something and execute it well im well know for letting it go and play along or be at least lenient regarding the sentencing. I enjoy those situations. But you do have to take in account that this is propertionate to what is happening. if it is an shop robbery you get alot more leanway then with an armed prison break. This should be common sense. With that being said we are the police, it is litteraly our RP task to stop the crime from happening. So thats what we will try to do. I dont know why you are in disbelief when we do this?

When you are about to commit a big crime you probaly want to think about dealing with the police and get you story straight so we can have an enjoyable RP session together.

 
You are 3 people, 1 with a bean bag launcher, 1 with a pistol and one with a knife. 

You have absolutely no chance there of an escape. There were so many firearms there im surprised the G6 hostage did not run off a lot sooner than the police decided to ask. Just because you have a hostage does not mean it will always be plain sailing. There were so many moving parts to that jail break and you were simply not equipped or even capable of pulling that off with the amount of firearms that were there on scene. 

You can say "high quality roleplay server" but that does not mean you lose any sort of sense in thinking that your hostage there who could have ran behind police at any point was your leverage. I would suggest thinking it over a bit more next time. 

Report denied. 

 
Thank you for your report, Unfortunately, it has been declined

The staff member will advise shortly why on this occasion they have declined to take action against the reported player.

Please do not let this put you off making further reports in the future, We rely on our player base to help keep our community clean.

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