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Report a Player - McTavish, Happyknife - Other (Action Taken)

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Your In-game name

[TCK] Conor McGregor

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

McTavish, Happyknife

Date of the incident

02/26/2017

Time of the incident (GMT)

210

What best describes this incident ?

Poor/Low Quality RP

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

We were in a car chase as seen in the video, then we were VDMed/ collided with the MRAP. The UNMC members dragged us together then said sorry, but I said CyberHOBO which is one of my Gang member name upon learning the name McTavish asked HappyKnife ( An old member of TCK,now in the UNMC) if he knew of anyone named CyberHOBO was in any gangs, HappyKnife then told McTavish that he was in TCK (However, In roleplay Happyknife wouldn't know this as he was named CyberDolt and is normally called so, he changed his name this restart to CyberHOBO). McTavish then asked us if we were in TCK to which we replied no. After a minute or so I said I was in TCK as he was going to execute us anyway, which he did. (Execution was not recorded but did happen). To clarify I know this isn't a report about this but they have been targeting TCK for the whole day as there was a similar situation prior to this. (That is the second recording on plays tv)

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKaOM8l4ejY&feature=youtu.be
http://plays.tv/video/58b23430cbd97debd8/vdm
http://imgur.com/a/ki689

This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

No

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 
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First off, I would have been more than happy to to talk about this if you had have tryed to contact me but you didnt so here we are.

At 1.45 in the video you say my name but your mic isnt recorded where i respond "fuck off conor". This shows that you clearly still remember me and i still remember you.

As for CyberHOBO, McTavish asked over teamspeak does anyone know who CyberHOBO is and i said i wasnt sure but i knew that Conor Mcgregor was there (as i had heard your voice before calling my name) and that he was infact part of TCK but i would have to come down and confirm it for CyberHOBO. A minute later we then got told by McTavish that you had confirmed you guys were TCK anyway therefore i wasnt needed to come down so we left it there and continued on with what we were doing.

I never actually said CyberHOBO was in TCK and was going to have to come down and see for myself but I did say that Conor Mcgregor was in TCK.

Would also like to add i am still willing to discuss this in TS if possible.

 
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I am CyberDOLT/HOBO and I was in the situation :3. We went up to staff and had a little chat with quite a lot of few members. They agreed that taking advantage of the VDM was quite shit and claiming D-synq was very sketchy. 

 
As I'm aware that @Scott1sh can't post to reply in this topic, please find somebody to post on your behalf for your side of the story on this.

As far as the VDM and Desync issue goes, I was sent a video by @F A D E which I can't find at this moment, but I am satisfied it was a matter of desync. Once I find the video again I will post it here to keep it transparent.

Does any UNMC member have a video on the above incident at all, as I am interested in what the TCK members were saying which fell outside the recording.

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Posting on behalf of McTavish

"Currently uploading the footage of the incident and will post here once its uploaded"

 
This was not about the collision it's about the fact that we died then when they found out that we where tck members they executed us and used happyknife to identify us when cyperdolt had a changed name at that time so in roleplay they wouldn't know it was us but they didn't care so I just agreed at the end that I was in tck but I don't like they way they used the game feature of us being downed to learn our names and take advantage of us and execute us it has happened twice in a hour so I decided to take it to staff then the forums.

Bobby Shmurda said:
Im not sure why "http://plays.tv/video/58b23430cbd97debd8/vdm" was uploaded? Ive spoken to a TCK member and we have come to an agreement and I would class that as resolved. Im sure Lincoln can back me up for this.
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Yes I'm not trying to report you or get you involved but this has happened twice to tck in a half an hour 

I have realised that this report is not clear I'm going to re write this to make it as clear as possible 

 
Posting on behalf of McTavish.  Everything below is written by him and directly sent to myself by him, anything stated here does not represent my views in any capacity nor do I take any responsibility for the contents

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Ok so this whole incident started when Pvt. Kittens was taken hostage inside Kavala which we were already a few kms out, we lost his GPS signal and 
deployed troops on the ground with the intention to stop everyone and every vehicle, which u can see rebels inside a silver SUV which I initiated on.

Then the whole desync incident happened, we at all time intended to get medics for those injured 

@0.44 eddylane admits his mistake and informs them we will get them to hospital

Both Happyknife and Connor know each other as shown at the timestamps below.

@0.54 Connor McGregor says shut the fuck up happyknife
@0.57 happyknife replies of fuck off Connor

Connor is quite cheeky and then we continue roleplay about me being his dad.

@1.48 Connor states "Cyberhobo" to which I begin investigating, all the while he is still waiting on medics and had no idea this was TCK.

Happyknife did state he didn't know cyberhobo was involved  with TCK but he did, in fact, know Connor was and Connor also knew him as he did say so in the video,

Connor when I asked one last time if you guys were TCK you all stated NO, but then change your mind and say you are. Had you said nothing we would have just waited for the medics and went on our way.

I will admit and say it was shitty taking the advantage of the desync/car crash but we had every intention of helping you guys and only when you confirmed from you own mouth you were TCK I decided as we are fighting each other I would finish you off.

This could have easily been resolved in TeamSpeak with a chat.

P.S. You stat "To clarify I know this isn't a report about this but they have been targeting TCK for the whole day as there was a similar situation prior to this. (That is the second recording on plays tv)"

Eddyline's house was being robbed and we arrived quite soon after (as we were near the airport) and we chased you, I am sorry but we can't know you are TCK we just chased house robbers.

Just for clarity we are targeting all rebels for the moment, not just TCK

Video of Incident

https://youtu.be/ylcLQWsQekM

 
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I also would add that I never confirmed that I (CyberHOBO) was in TCK. I did everything in my power atm to deny the fact that I was in TCK, yet I still got executed.

 
Posting on behalf of Lincoln.  Everything below is written by him and directly sent to myself by him, anything stated here does not represent my views in any capacity nor do I take any responsibility for the contents

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"I can confirm that myself and Bobby have resolved our part of the issue, so please ignore the video from my Plays.TV account within this report."

 
I'm satisfied the above is enough to make a conclusion on this. If there is anything further to add to this, please ask a member of the staff team to post it or ask them to unlock it if they think it contributes as evidence.

I'm going to hold off making a decision straight away on this one. There are some minor rule points here which I will get a second opinion on too from others in the staff team. Once I've had the chance to discuss them and hammer out the finer points, I'll post back with my decision.

 
As a forewarning, this post will be quite long. However, I am not a believer in handling reports without giving my reasons and full evidence why I made a particular conclusion.

Firstly, I'd like to clear the air a little for some people. Notably, @Bobby Shmurda I believe @Lincoln has already resolved this with you, and I'll be disregarding that from the report as a separate resolved matter.

For @HappyKnife , although you are mentioned throughout the report I don't see any actual accusations against you here. There was a discussion with @TCK_Conor McGregor which I see was mutual recognition, and so any metagaming accusations on that point between the two of you is quite void. As nothing has suggested you've done anything wrong, no action will be taken against you.

Metagaming

Let me quote in the video what Conor McGregor stated just prior to being executed:
"No, I'm a part of Copper Kings and you can go fuck yourself"

There is no doubt at this point, and of course free to take that into account in RP. However, you continue to call the rest of them "Copper cunt", despite the other parties maintaining they have no connection. Now while there is a case to be made for the assumption of being of parity to a colleague of joint enterprise, you state yourself the only reason for executing them is because they are TCK, as per below:

"we had every intention of helping you guys and only when you confirmed from you own mouth you were TCK I decided as we are fighting each other I would finish you off."

In my view, you have executed them for acknowledging their TCK membership, despite only one referencing himself having made any admission. Furthermore, HappyKnife has acknowledged he did not identify any person as TCK other than Conor. I believe this would fall under the definition of metagaming, but is not something I would issue a ban for, as it is a borderline issue if I ignore the surrounding context.

Poor/Low Quality RP

I appreciate in the situation, UNMC have gone above and beyond really in helping the victims of the desync here. There are many who just carry on driving, so this is a welcome move to stop and be proactive to call medics. However, the staff I have conversed with have agreed to take advantage of the situation as you did, which you admitted yourself, is poor form.

The catch is that the three TCK members were executed. RP was present in the situation, you did exchange some friendly banter and everything was going fine. However, as the realisation dawned they were TCK, the dynamic changed. To make this more clear cut, imagine you were RPing for 5 minutes with a hobo who was acting as a hat salesman, and as soon as you realise he is somebody you didn't like from the day before, you simply pulled out your pistol and killed him only saying "Well fuck you." This would be considered Fail RP and poor quality RP, and I fail to see how this situation is different. RP is contextual, and merely having RP for something friendly does not excuse the high quality RP requirement to kill somebody in another context.

(7.1.3) Killing someone must be carried out with high roleplay, “put your hands up or I will shoot” etc is considered low RP and may lead to a ban for RDM/Fail RP. 

Further Context

As I said in my earlier post, I wanted to get further context on this issue. Here is a quick excerpt from your chat logs:

31/01/2017 02:59 (Global) Scott McTavish: fuck this not playing with cheating cunts

31/01/2017 15:10 (Global) Scott McTavish: little chav
31/01/2017 15:11 (Global) Scott McTavish: i dont glitch its sad
31/01/2017 15:11 (Global) Scott McTavish: fucked lol on koth
31/01/2017 15:11 (Global) Scott McTavish: go abck to being a shit cop

Furthermore, a recent incident also cited as poor quality RP you were involved with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9ZjW8j84iA

Considering all the above factors, I will be actioning this report on @Scott1sh for poor/low quality RP under 7.1.3, with a note on the warning for metagaming. You have been given warnings before for sub-par RP, and as a head of a whitelisted faction within the community, this shouldn't still be happening. You have received more warnings than most would have received as many staff have given you the benefit of a doubt, but as this has become a pattern, one I will not entertain with further chances.

Gen. McTavish [UNMC] - 7.1.3 Poor Quality RP
Steam ID: 76561197981140845
GUID: d1dd0363098f7215832376d96132cbf6

 
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