Report a player - ID 29 & 31 - GTA RP

[Baldy (Derek)]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Derek Van Herbendon
Reported Players: ID 29 & 31
Date: Apr 5, 2025
Time: 11:45
What best describes this incident: Myself and Omar from S18 were smelting, this is where we encountered two blacked out individuals walk into smelt. There was no RP leading up to this from these two, just a simple walk in & say "hands up".
Please (in detail) describe the incident: As mentioned, myself and Omar of S18 were smelting steel this morning as we typically do when we have orders for the group. I believe Brett was also there, we had a little chat with him & just cracked on with smelting.

Brett then was on his way out, this is when two blacked out individuals walked into smelt, instantly saying "Yo, put your hands up boys" - This interaction was with no prior roleplay, no attempt to roleplay with us or provide quality RP. This was a simple hands up, zip, drop your stuff & leave.

They were also called the QE where they proceeded to argue that "this happens to them, so this makes it ok". In QE, I outlined that this wasn't quality RP & wasn't fun for those involved but was met with hostility. I then ended the QE conversation because it was just going round in circles. I don't believe this was resolved in QE at all & this was a clear cut rule break of G2.12 - Poor Quality Roleplay.

If you staff need anything further from my side, please let me know, I'm happy to provide what I can.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/k1C9X21H27QvDLvSL?invite=cr-MSxNNXMsMjcxMjA4MDUw

 

[josh96]

I am ID 31.

I'm sorry you feel you was done wrong in this interaction and its a shame this wasn't a scenario that you could of possibly enjoyed, however despite this we are crim characters and when we are out on stick ups, as any crim will tell you its very important to take control of the situation to make sure we don't end up on the receiving end as this does happen sometimes. I'd just like to first of say that you automatically took to OOC to rant about this scenario and clearly seemed to be annoyed and even had various other individuals telling you to calm down, use proper use of OOC and also that it is part of the risks in such a city Going straight to OOC to complain about being robbed at this hour isn't the correct way to handle this and it leads me to believe your more angry about the fact you lost your weapon.

While on the topic of weapon it leads me to ask why do you carry a weapon to smelt? if you think its innocent and you shouldn't be robbed why are you carrying a fire arm? As proven by what we found in a search of your pockets if we spent anytime hanging around at that smelt with clear no intention of smelting where would the Roleplay have lead? Are you angry you couldn't draw the weapon on us first? It is a clear example of why no chances are taken in stick ups and our char safety is more paramount in them situations you was carrying more ammunition than me and my partner put together!

The robbery was only for your weapon, we wasn't interested in any of your hard worked gains, your money, or any other item in your pockets we didn't even take the ammunition for the pistol all we was interested in was Guns and I believe us not just 'using you as a vending machine' as you pointed out shows our respect in the situation, you had a lot more worth than that pistol between you if it was to gain advantages wed have took all that not your pistol.



They were also called the QE where they proceeded to argue that "this happens to them, so this makes it ok". In QE, I outlined that this wasn't quality RP & wasn't fun for those involved but was met with hostility. I then ended the QE conversation because it was just going round in circles. I don't believe this was resolved in QE at all & this was a clear cut rule break of G2.12 - Poor Quality Roleplay. --

Id just like to add to this that at no point was it used as a point that 'This happens to us so its ok' the point he was making is its how it goes, people who do this don't take chances to lose their control of the situation and especially in this case 2 blacked out guys in smelt with no intention of smelting can you please give me an example of how this should have gone? Our purpose couldn't have been hidden so please give me an example of how we should of Roleplayed this out?

In all i think you was very unhappy with the situation as shown in OOC and your overall attitude throughout which is understandable nobody likes getting robbed but as you was carrying a weapon it shows us taking a direct route was the safest option for us as if we loitered around and you decided to draw your weapon what then? Would we be in this same report now? or would it have been okay if you stuck us up out of fear for your life? We was reasonable as possible by not taking items which we know you've worked hard for and sticking to the firearm I'm sorry you feel like you was done wrong I've been in the same situation many of times. Maybe re evaluate your path in the city as you state your a criminal but we are here now after you fell victim to that life

 

[Baldy (Derek)]

Hi mate,

Some of this doesn't quite add up.

I'm sorry you feel you was done wrong in this interaction and its a shame this wasn't a scenario that you could of possibly enjoyed, however despite this we are crim characters and when we are out on stick ups, as any crim will tell you its very important to take control of the situation to make sure we don't end up on the receiving end as this does happen sometimes

I'm not sure in what world anyone could enjoy a scenario where this involves "Yo, hands up boys" only. I understand crim characters are there to be criminals & a nuisance around the city, however, the quality of this type of RP of "hands up" is just not fun all round. Maybe you had fun because you got the win, however, having the win mentality is not ideal & does not make it fun for everyone else involved in the scenario.

While on the topic of weapon it leads me to ask why do you carry a weapon to smelt?

Why not? I'm fully aware of robberies going on in/around smelt & mines. I don't see why this is relevant to the report. I carried a weapon simply off the basis of robberies & with the hope to defend myself in these situations, however, that RP was not provided in this opportunity.

if we spent anytime hanging around at that smelt with clear no intention of smelting where would the Roleplay have lead

You may not have had any intention of smelting, however, what's to say you couldn't strike a conversation, lead our characters into a false sense of security etc? There were multiple avenues you could've gone down that that didn't involve the simple, classic one line of "Yo, hands up lads".

I believe us not just 'using you as a vending machine' as you pointed out shows our respect in the situation

Correct, in QE I did mention that this felt like just a typical vending machine robbery. This is because of the poor quality you and your friend provided. I hardly doubt you had respect for the situation considering you did not want to provide any RP & wanted the win itself.

Id just like to add to this that at no point was it used as a point that 'This happens to us so its ok' the point he was making is its how it goes, people who do this don't take chances to lose their control of the situation and especially in this case 2 blacked out guys in smelt with no intention of smelting can you please give me an example of how this should have gone? Our purpose couldn't have been hidden so please give me an example of how we should of Roleplayed this out?

I've already provided examples above of how this could go. Just even a little something would've been ideal. But that was not provided. Your friend did state "I've had this happen to me, it's just the way it goes". This is quite easy to translate to "This happens to us, it's ok". Just because you worded it differently, does not mean it has the same meaning.

In all i think you was very unhappy with the situation as shown in OOC and your overall attitude throughout which is understandable nobody likes getting robbed but as you was carrying a weapon it shows us taking a direct route was the safest option for us as if we loitered around and you decided to draw your weapon what then? Would we be in this same report now? or would it have been okay if you stuck us up out of fear for your life?

I was overall unhappy with the situation, not because I was robbed, but because the roleplay provided was incredibly lacklustre & you provided no opportunity to react, provide other RP within the situation etc. Again, I do not know what relevance me carrying a weapon has to this? Are you saying I cannot & should not carry just because you decide to rob & provide no RP with that? If you didn't instantly say "hands up boys" & put Omar in zips, we could have looked at overthrowing you, but you put him straight in zips instantly. You knew what you were doing. You didn't want to provide any opportunity for us to fight back if we saw the opening.

Maybe re evaluate your path in the city as you state your a criminal but we are here now after you fell victim to that life

Re-evaluate my path? Again, no relevance to the report & just a simple dig. I've never once claimed to be a criminal in city. Unfortunately, I fell victim to your poor quality roleplay.

I have nothing more to say on the matter & if staff have any questions, I'm more than happy to answer them here.

Thanks again to which ever staff member takes this one.

 

[josh96]

a lot of clutching at things here mate i’ll be honest but it’s not for my evaluation to decide, and i’d probably change the big poster on your forums if you aren’t a crim it’s a little misleading

 

[Baldy (Derek)]

i’d probably change the big poster on your forums if you aren’t a crim it’s a little misleading

I'm not sure what relevance my forum signature has to do with this report.

I'll leave this to staff to respond now mate. They know best in this situation.