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Report a player - Father Augustus - GTA RP

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KiloC

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Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Kenny Lake
Reported Players: Father Augustus
Date: Aug 27, 2024
Time: 03:10
What best describes this incident: C1.2
Please (in detail) describe the incident: (C1.2) - Do not express discriminatory or otherwise offensive views. This is no place for racism, religious hatred, ageism, sexism, homophobia, gender or disability discrimination.

It's becoming increasingly frequent that OCGs are using homophobic slurs and insults in-game and I thought Father would have learned from the Dave situation that this is unacceptable and has no place on the server.

He admits to being homophobic and repeatedly calls me a "gay boy."

The clips speaks for itself really.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://streamable.com/1462k6
 
Hello there Kilo pal, would like to state that i apologize as i didn't know you were a member of the LGBTQ community and if you were, i wouldn't of made the comments about you being a gay boy.

Now, when you asked in OOC chat to stop with the remarks i did, i never mentioned it further only when you brought it up into roleplay.

What baffles me most about this report is.

Are you truly offended? Or Are you reporting because Cutlass cant handle the beef within roleplay against OCG and as it was stated in the "CUTLASS REPORT SECTION IN YOUR DISCORD" - Report that easy ban. https://gyazo.com/e55033a20626aadba93310a6ddd7941c

Are you really offended? When members of cutlass go around and openly call people > THIS https://gyazo.com/e41112f2b94ead349c3f103f5cb4137c

The clip does speak for itself, me calling you gay now you are acting like i am going around using the F SLUR or the B Slur (as linked above) and being openly homophobic to a bunch of people but I aint.

Its an 18+ game and yes there is rules in place to keep the community safe but someone calling you gay and offending you is a bit of a reach.
 
(C1.2) - Do not express discriminatory or otherwise offensive views. This is no place for racism, religious hatred, ageism, sexism, homophobia, gender or disability discrimination.

I believe RPUK to be an inclusive and safe space for people to enjoy their roleplay without being discriminated against.

You used the term "gay boy" in an offensive manner multiple times as your intention was to insult. Do you think that prejudice against a sexuality should be welcome on the server?

"i didn't know you were a member of the LGBTQ community"

It's not something that I should be forced to discuss because you can't keep your hateful comments to yourself.

"Are you truly offended? Or Are you reporting because Cutlass cant handle the beef within roleplay against OCG"

We're all grown adults here.

"The clip does speak for itself, me calling you gay now you are acting like i am going around using the F SLUR or the B Slur (as linked above) and being openly homophobic to a bunch of people but I aint."

So because you don't view it as bad as other homophobic insults, it's acceptable?

I can't imagine this being something that is allowed and that becomes commonplace on the server. Would this feel like a safe space with 25 gang members running around screaming "gay boy" and saying: "It's not like I am going around using the F slur or B slur."
 
(C1.2) - Do not express discriminatory or otherwise offensive views. This is no place for racism, religious hatred, ageism, sexism, homophobia, gender or disability discrimination.

I believe RPUK to be an inclusive and safe space for people to enjoy their roleplay without being discriminated against.

You used the term "gay boy" in an offensive manner multiple times as your intention was to insult. Do you think that prejudice against a sexuality should be welcome on the server?
You don't need to educate me on the rule, i have been warned for it before and added it into a ticket when i used to use a certain word, and when i was told about it, i stopped.

I do believe RPUK is an inclusive safe space for people and works as an escape that we all sometimes take for granted , but in my honest opinion, calling someone "gay" is a bit of a reach at breaking C1.2.
Now, i don't know you personally or know your beliefs or whatever and i understand that everyone is different but this wasn't targeted at you in anyway or specifically just you, the amount of times i have had jokes with yourself and other cutlass people and words being used in terms of "batty" or calling people gay is numerous, so i find it a bit of a reach , now that when i am in an RP beef with cutlass, they are magically offended by it.

Now do i think calling someone gay can come across as offensive? depends which way you take it, personally I don't but ofc everyone is different, do i think its on a fine line? Ofc, and staff reading / seeing this are probably seeing that something is brought up with me being "controversial again" and seeing i am pushing a fine line, but honestly, i didn't think this would've been at the time, considering the context that myself and many other cutlass has shared in these "insults" before.


Are you truly offended? Or Are you reporting because Cutlass cant handle the beef within roleplay against OCG"

We're all grown adults here.
Its what it feels like, and from what i have heard from a couple certain cutlass members who i am friends with and disagree with the report, they are saying there's quite a few people licking their lips and quite "happy" at the fact that you might get me banned, which i find a bit of a "forum win mentality" but this is isn't relevant to this so ill end it here.

"The clip does speak for itself, me calling you gay now you are acting like i am going around using the F SLUR or the B Slur (as linked above) and being openly homophobic to a bunch of people but I aint."

So because you don't view it as bad as other homophobic insults, it's acceptable?

I guess staff will decide on this, and whatever way it goes I accept, at least i know that is across the line, at the time i personally didn't feel like it was.

I have been in this community a very long time and i have seen reports in the past have been looked at and if it was OOC discrimination then yes, 100% ban me on the spot and never welcome me here again as that isn't acceptable, but this was purely said within RP to a group of people who i felt wouldn't take offence to this, it was all purely roleplayed in character and in future i will refrain from using word or insults around you.

In the video you can see my reasoning behind my character being "homophobic" but do i openly go around and do it all the time? No, now in the past i did and i done it a numerous amount of times where it lead me to a slippery slope lets say and was warned about it, and when i was warned, i stopped it big time and only ever brought it up when in a what could you say a "safe space/controlled environment" of people as to ensure i am roleplaying like that around people i believe understand my character in-depth enough to realise that it is my character and not me.
 
@KiloC

Few questions for yourself, Do you have any further evidence in relation to this situation? If so please provide it. This is required for context.

Outside of this we have had passed information to us about you discussing Fathers family, I'd like you to explain more on this. Why this was said, Any evidence from your side about this since it seems to be related to this.
 
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I was confused when Father mentioned this in OOC. I assumed this was a way to deflect from his actions. As I explained to him, I don't know anything about him or his family and I don't think I've ever spoke to him outside of the game. I'm not in any of his circles and wouldn't know any personal information about him like that.
 
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I was confused when Father mentioned this in OOC. I assumed this was a way to deflect from his actions. As I explained to him, I don't know anything about him or his family and I don't think I've ever spoke to him outside of the game. I'm not in any of his circles and wouldn't know any personal information about him like that.

Is there any video regarding what happened prior?

From both instances, As I know I have what was said to father, However in the evidence provided it's very short as a whole and I would need more evidence (Video) to provide context behind what lead to Father being down and going from there.

So these comments made to father from yourself, Explain them to me and why these we're made.
 
I don't have a longer video anymore. I uploaded the clip from the point that his comments began to the point that they ended as I didn't think at the time there would be context that justifies these insults.

These comments that he had an issue with began after his outburst which is why I thought it was a deflection. I'm sure this can be checked via logs from my OOC message in the clip and then his later on.

Father brought up the Azteca war at some point in the conversation so I made reference to the time that we had Matthew Labile and Father/Apostles tried to assist him. He said something along the lines of: "Give me my son."

I mentioned that Matthew calls me dad as a double entendre. One, in reference to that situation, and two as a member of Aztecas paid for the war to end. I didn't know he was confused until the OOC message where, like I said, I don't know anything about this person outside of the game.
 
Father brought up the Azteca war at some point in the conversation so I made reference to the time that we had Matthew Labile and Father/Apostles tried to assist him. He said something along the lines of: "Give me my son."

I mentioned that Matthew calls me dad as a double entendre. One, in reference to that situation, and two as a member of Aztecas paid for the war to end. I didn't know he was confused until the OOC message where, like I said, I don't know anything about this person outside of the game.
This is a utter bull:poop: and you know it yourself, not once in the conversation did you mention "Matthew" until i brought it up, and you used that was a scape goat from the conversation as you were caught red handed.

To me, it felt like you couldn't handle the back and forth and had no answers to me in the conversation we were having got vext, and started with the OOC insults.

First you brought up - " I piped your wife" Who am i married to in game? No one, i never have been in an RP relationship, so to me, that baffles me? Where did you get this information from? Groups? Discord calls with cutlass? as i am quite friendly with some of them, some maybe relayed i am married?

Then you mentioned "Your CHILD" now to me, a child is not someone who is 21/22 & leader of Aztecas

A child is considered a child until they are an adult.

And this is not to "deflect anything" I didn't want this brought up in the forums, i made a ticket roughly after an hour of the situation and i even mentioned in that ticket, i do not want this person banned as i don't like that but i would like something done with him bringing up "IRL to RP " in terms of a warning or conversation
 
I am reporting you for your blatant homophobia, Father. Not on one occasion but multiple including your tweedles. It's a weird attempt to divert from your own actions and flip the report but I'll entertain it.

I mentioned Matthew's name numerous times and I imagine you cut that part out.

"Your son calls me dad." Didn't seem grammatically correct. And the character Kilo doesn't see Matthew as a man or adult and that's partly where the insult lies.

Who else conceived Matthew with Father Augustus if not for a wife? Was he adopted? This was also in reference to the Kash/Hayley situation as you were previously a member of Aztecas.

I imagine you'll blur where these insults correlate but it's not a difficult thought process to understand them.

You have been warned for homophobia in the past. Your fellow gang member was recently banned for the same and you continue with these homophobic insults.

I made this report to answer one simple question. Are homophobic comments like these acceptable on RPUK?
 
I don't have a longer video anymore. I uploaded the clip from the point that his comments began to the point that they ended as I didn't think at the time there would be context that justifies these insults.
How would a 31 second video provide context behind why said comments are made? There was more that happened as Father Augustus, More so you can see this happened a bit after he was downed as there was only 7 minutes odd left on the respawn timer.

He has told you in RP why said comments we're made and as there is no evidence to show any intent behind it being targeted however more a term being used.

Now on the other side we have the claims from Father about OOC information being used IC. Again another thing that without more evidence isn't the easiest to prove as you have provided a reason behind said comments the same Father did to you in your own video.

I will say overall we don't tolerate discrimination overall however we do need full context when asked for it as a 30 second video cut out of a longer video doesn't show us the full story and only makes me think there is something being hidden.

I'll say this to both of you that if there is information being used OOC to IC then it stops otherwise you may find yourself with a G3.1 ban.

Since there is no longer video anymore of this situation and no context being provided from the situation as a whole the report will be denied due to the above reasons. I hope we all have a wonderful evening!

Denied.
 
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