Good evening all, I will be responding to this report on behalf of Changaloas as I was directly involved in the situation.
Firstly, it's a shame no liaison was called regarding this as I would have been able to outline the exact reasons for why this played out the way it did. Seems like it's becoming more and more frequent that liaison's are not called for in OOC or LOOC which is unfortunate not just for us players but also staff. Regardless I will continue anyway.
You didn't request a chat in liaison and have posted this report borderline on 24 hours (can't remember exactly what time it was) after this situation happened which means clips and session recordings have been deleted but I will gather what I can from my side.
I would like to mention quickly before I get into what actually happened at Benny's is your dispatch message. The exact words recieved on your dispatch was "some gang member wearing brown has a gun on me." No risk assessment was conducted on route considering "gang member" and "gun" was mentioned. Not sure if this is something that takes place in Police or not but personally it looks like you jumped into the deep end with no thoughts on how you would swim out. I would of thought that potential outcomes would be discussed or just anything to get your officers on the same page if things were to go wrong. With this not happening it leads to moments like at 2:49 of Kieren's clip where it sounds like one of the officers is taking a stroll in the park? Considering a gang member and gun is involved is quite crazy. Secondly, no comm to firearms on route to better prepare for what could take place with this gang member and gun? Would have set you up a lot better but what do I know.
So it all starts by a member of Changaloas (Inferno) being arrested inside the premises of Benny's, he states in LOOC that he cannot see anything inside the building while this is taking place (we as a gang obviously do not know this at the time) but I would like to point to the fact straight away, after finding this out was you going to uncuff him to treat him fairly and make sure it was fun for all parties or just going to arrest him and sort it out after the fact? It's quite disappointing to find this out afterwards as surely uncuffing him for the fact that he couldn't see anything would be enough but also the
multiple requests from me and my fellow gang members shortly after arriving would have crossed your mind? - not 1 word was said from your side after multiple people and multiple requests from our side which is becoming more and more frequent every single day from Police and in my opinion I just think it's so poor to not be able to have a conversation while a situation is going down, we are here to roleplay after all. At this point there was plenty of RP to be had if you had let him go which is the real shame here.
Anyway as Inferno is being escorted out of the property I am coming up the road and I tell the boys that are already at Benny's to tell the officers to take him out of cuffs. Looking at the clips there is a total of 4 officers but regardless a total of 6+ Brown coloured cars (which you described yourself as "war cars") appear on scene almost instantly. I would like to take note at this point of rules G2.4 and C1.7. In regards to G2.4 we completely outnumbered your cars 6+ to 2 and would of been an unknown amount of members in our 6+ cars but again this was not communicated or roleplayed by any officers before or after our requests were made. I will repeat what I said before as I think this is extremely relevant. 0 words was exchanged from your side after 7
CLEAR requests, (from your POV) 3 from Sultan, 3 from 9F and 1 from Neo to take our member out of cuffs. Why was there no effort to make conversation? And why when we are trying to start roleplaying with you is the first thing you do is call for firearms? You were ambushed and instead of complying and going forward with the RP hoping other units would respond to panics, you have made an effort to "win" the situation with a radio call before fully finding out the situation you was in. We're literally talking to you and you choose to ignore us, press panic buttons and call for firearms backup?? It's just so poor. You can even hear one of our most experienced RP members astonished when we hear the call for firearms before any officer interacting with us. You basically backed us into a corner with what options we could take next and in that moment my thoughts was that you have quite literally taken the piss with ignorance and are not untouchable hence the "fuck you all" proceeding with shots fired.
You have said this:
Even something as simple as pulling guns on us and telling us to get him out of cuffs I believe would have been moire sufficent than killing 4 cops.
If you would have replied to any of us and had the intention to roleplay this somewhat would of occurred next. You haven't said a word other than calling for backup and expect us to let you waste time by standing at your car with guns as if 6+ Brown "war cars" surrounding and 7 sincere requests wasn't already a big enough threat. This is where I think C1.7 is to be taken note of, do we all have to get out of our cars and come to yours with guns or should you recognise what's going on and that you was already in big danger if you didn't uncuff him. Play stupid games and you win stupid prizes is the only thing which comes to mind here. Police already know for a fact that Changaloas and Marabunta are in war and that these are times of high hostility, we definitely would have guns on us and knowing that any moment Mara could fly around the corner (we are actively looking for them when our POV starts) are factors that play into us staying in our cars rather than poking our guns through your window just to get a word of conversation.
You have also said this:
Yes they said get him out of cuffs but other than that there was no warning or any prior roleplay with any of the other members.
At 2:05 in Kieren's POV another member of Changaloas (clearly wearing the same brown gang vest) comms on radio that one of our members is being hands'd up at Benny's which is where the prior roleplay starts, not sure if you've watched your own clips that you've posted? Kieren Clarks does not communicate this with other officers, which is not our issue. This same Changaloa member then continues to chat to Kieren from 2:20 until 2:48 and is very inquisitive as to what's going on inside and his friend's wellbeing. This 28 second chat and the radio comm should ring alarm bells should it not? Still no communication to the other officers though.
In the eyes of Changaloas, Police are already in I guess what you would call "bad books" due to the majority of fights we've had with Marabunta they are always getting taken to the local doctor but when we get snatched by Police from a gang fight we are always arrested and sent away. This is all part of the context with what I've written above as to where my frustration comes from in this situation.
Lastly I would like to make sure this is clear from our end that we as a gang was
NOT looking for a gunfight, we simply wanted our member and to leave which is shown at the end of the clip I've provided. We did not pick up any of the downed Police we just took our member and left which can easily be continued in roleplay. At the end of the day we are a gang and we are mid war with another gang, our strategy in general is methodical but to the point, you had no strategy and was not prepared in the slightest for what could happen or did happen. Your comms and set up was a shambles and if you really wanted to do well in this situation you would have set your self up better to do so and not be ignorant and act like arresting a gang member in front of his gang is a walk in the park.
FULL POV from our side -
https://medal.tv/?contentId=ivWnV6sRrQMhRN26c&invite=cr-MSxyODEsMjE1MzkyNDQs&spok=d1337KevZGmE
Inferno not being able to see anything inside Benny's -
Thank you to the staff member(s) that take this report and apologies for the lengthy reply but I hope this is enough to cover all aspects of this situation.
