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Report a player - Ballas - GTA RP

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Paru

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Los Santos Police
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Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Alec Hunter
Reported Players: Unknown gang
Date: Aug 10, 2024
Time: 21:30
What best describes this incident: RDM/Mass RDM, Baiting, G7.5 - Suspected cheater in first video?
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Context - This lonesome group of 4 people decided to lootbox a cop for his gun, after other cops gave chase (Where the clip starts) this group with no prior roleplay with other cops or any cops (besides vending machine rp towards the robbed cop) decide to bait cops straight into a frag fest straight from Youtube, I believe this to be of an incredibly low standard and when confronted and asked who their gang leader was so I could liaise and explain my issues with that situation I was told to "find out in rp" (As seen in the OOC SS)

This is the lowest of the low in terms of standards and I honestly think this sort of frag montagery has no place on the server, it's piss poor and to then take cops to a car park afterwards and rob them of all their phones, radios and bodycams ensuring that the continuation of RP is next to impossible, the majority of cops made the logical sense after not getting any medical RP to bleedout and respawn. A wise choice at that in my opinion
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Hello @Paru i think you are missing some context and info. You seem to be reporting 2 different gangs, the first video is not our group, but the 2nd and 3rd is.
 
2nd situation/part resolved with the other gang, it's come to light the gang responsible for the primary/first is Ballas.
 
first off RDM requires 3 to 5 min of clip but u have one minute also there was RP we attempted to rob a officer before this and he panicked while having 5 guns pointed at him then it carried on with a chase which when we got to big red u started ramming us so we got out the car 2 of us being crushed by the car then running up the ramp idk who ur accusing of cheating I will need u to explain that to me but u seemed to of got there late and don't understand what has happened prior to this situation which is not your fault that would be bad comms from ur side but I don't see the point to this report since the 1 min doesn't show anything for me to really respond to
 
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i was at a part of this situation and in what way was it random we had guns at one officer and then 3 to 4 units chased us and once we got to the car park the police pulled guns on us also, so your RDM claim is almost laughable, secondly where is this claim to cheating and on what grounds, because you lost a gun fight someone is cheating i find it very hard to see what you are seeing
 
Hello @Paru ,
I can only see a video where there is already a chase taking place, would you be able to provide a video which would give us the full context of how the situation started?
 
Slawek said:
Hello @Paru ,
I can only see a video where there is already a chase taking place, would you be able to provide a video which would give us the full context of how the situation started?
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Will pop it in a ticket for you :) It should be noted, Ballas had fully setup within Red Garage by the time cops arrived which further confirms my suspicion that it was a baity ambush given the recent decline in quality of Roleplay and repeat "RP" style from the same group.
 
no one was setup in red garage. You can complain as much as you want about RP standards but to me it just seems like you dont like the loss of the sit.
 
Dwayne Spike said:
no one was setup in red garage. You can complain as much as you want about RP standards but to me it just seems like you dont like the loss of the sit.
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I don't care about losing, I dunno how many times I need to say it or even show it, I care about the Roleplay or lackthereof in this situation, you vending machined a cop for just his gun and then fled to a pre-determined location in order to have a shootout, extremely low quality of yourselves, guns were drawn from cops because 1. You robbed a cop at gunpoint and 2. Your fellow member was running with a gun in hand. So many better avenues of Roleplay to be taken and you chose Fragplay, i'm disappointed even when attempting to liaise with your gang leader I was told in LOOC (which is attached) to "find out in rp" which makes zero sense when using the OOC or LOOC chat system.

Just seems incredibly childish and almost as if you're here to make frag montages, make Roleplay fun and enjoyable for all parties involved instead of immediately resorting to Fragplay every single time.
In reference to the potential/suspected cheater, I am referring to this individual that hits a perfect 180 headshot whilst not even fully facing my character. -
https://gyazo.com/22b2f6b0da67a2865aca80a09ac3dfc1

And as seen here - https://gyazo.com/7ec1b7b3222eb1033830a889fc05d8c7 My character is already dead as well long before they fully turn round.
(The rifle disappears out of your hands when you die)

The robbing of bodycams, phones and radios, the lack of Medical RP, the lack of any RP in fact is exactly why this report has gone up, the officer in question who was robbed even stated as such in fact in OOC chat as seen here - https://gyazo.com/7b9a293fbd201a379bad274334681739 Obviously frustrated by the lack of Roleplay provided by the Ballas other than the usual "hands hands hands"

This is very much a reminder of "Get words" and those of you that know, know exactly what I am referring to.
 
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You talk about high quality roleplay as if you provide it. Remember this started over an officer pulling his panic with multiple weapons pointed at him yet again.

Yet again all you speak about is lootboxing but you have no idea why we were taking him or what we wanted. So you assuming that is ridiculous in itself.

You speak about a pre determined location yet in your clip your boys are already setup with spike strips waiting for us. If we were already there we wouldn't have said to go there.

Every liason is the same with you , it's go back to arena servers or go back to frag servers. The only childish one here is yourself, all avenues of roleplay were killed because this kind of nvl happens day to day with no repercussions to yourselves. Its almost like you are wanting to lead to a shootout , maybe for your youtube frag montages you oh so love talking about.

If you expect gang members to not shoot even though you knew they had them , don't know what to tell you. Maybe try a different approach.

Not trying to shit on your parade here , but there is 2 sides to every story. Maybe if you played crim for a couple months you would understand.
 
Dwayne Spike said:
You talk about high quality roleplay as if you provide it. Remember this started over an officer pulling his panic with multiple weapons pointed at him yet again.

Yet again all you speak about is lootboxing but you have no idea why we were taking him or what we wanted. So you assuming that is ridiculous in itself.

You speak about a pre determined location yet in your clip your boys are already setup with spike strips waiting for us. If we were already there we wouldn't have said to go there.

Every liason is the same with you , it's go back to arena servers or go back to frag servers. The only childish one here is yourself, all avenues of roleplay were killed because this kind of nvl happens day to day with no repercussions to yourselves. Its almost like you are wanting to lead to a shootout , maybe for your youtube frag montages you oh so love talking about.

If you expect gang members to not shoot even though you knew they had them , don't know what to tell you. Maybe try a different approach.

Not trying to shit on your parade here , but there is 2 sides to every story. Maybe if you played crim for a couple months you would understand.
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I have played crim, for several months, had multiple interactions with a series of cops and lost plenty of loot, I just don't care enough nor do people see it because it's a random character.

Again, you're trying to tar every member of the community with the same brush "NVL" if the cop NVL'd, report it like I have here, I've liaised with Ballas maybe twice in my entire time here, you had ample opportunity to ziptie and take the officer hostage but you chose to lootbox and run to your special spot, it's the same with every shootout, I'm not trying to come across as a cunt but a pattern is rapidly emerging and it certainly isn't one that favours Roleplay, you can't judge every liaison by the comments made in one (Of which were made out of pure frustration towards certain aspects of the server)

I have time and time again lead by example within situations, giving crims leeway, letting them give my character a bs story and then roll with it because why not? What do I as a person stand to lose from letting Roleplay continue? Nothing, my chracter gets all his gear for free so why bother trying to chase a Win and save it?

If you have any examples of wrongdoing from myself in this specific situation please do provide them, otherwise it just looks incredibly poor on yourself to make an attempt at going for low-blows against me in a forum report.

At the end of the day, if you wanted to take the officer and actually expand on the Roleplay for once, you'd have done it, instead you fled the scene, provided zero Roleplay to anyone throughout the pursuit and even at the end of the pursuit, just straight to pulling guns and having the rest of the gang turn up to wipe police.

It's a repeat situation that's occurred for multiple days now, folks often ask why cops don't want to log on and RP well, situations like this one are one of the reasons for it, we don't care for losing the kit (The majority of us at least) because it's free, even the repairkits and bodykits are free from garages for cops, I just want roleplay, that's it, it's not a big ask, it's not even a medium ask, just give a little and you get a little back.

Like I said, if that officer truly did NVL, report them for it, the staff do take action on stuff it's all contextual based as I keep being told.
 
Not trying to low blow you pal , but accusing someone of cheating because he's holding C to look behind him is wild. Accusing us of mass rdm because shooting was a last resort? You had plenty of chase , plenty of time to tc or box. Go to our special place? Don't even know what that means , if you are referring to us taking you to a spot that could benefit us? Sure , I'll take it , we're outnumbered at the end of the day.

Mate I'm also not here to hear about how you lead by example , I'm sure you provide great rp and that's not me being sarcastic. But when you write in ooc that you love waking up to loot rp because we take your bodycams? Seems like you are throwing your toys out the pram because you got shot. As a crim , I'm sure you know as you played one for a while , kinda crucial not to leave evidence at the scene of the crime. Too many times have we been identified by voice alone.

It may be a random character for you and you might not care , but it's some people's mains and they put time and effort into it. So having roleplay ruined by nvl countless times , matters to them.
 
Dwayne Spike said:
But when you write in ooc that you love waking up to loot rp because we take your bodycams? Seems like you are throwing your toys out the pram because you got shot. As a crim , I'm sure you know as you played one for a while , kinda crucial not to leave evidence at the scene of the crime. Too many times have we been identified by voice alone.

It may be a random character for you and you might not care , but it's some people's mains and they put time and effort into it. So having roleplay ruined by nvl countless times , matters to them.
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You stating as if I were the one that put that in OOC, I wasn't, the officer you robbed did. in regards to "throwing your toys out the pram" that's not what this is at all, perhaps you should play from a Cop POV for a month you'd understand the sort of poor quality Roleplay cops face on a daily if not hourly basis, you've used that same garage multiple times over, it's the same as the underground garage by Bahama Mama's, it's your favourite spots to go to for Fragplay, and as you've just openly admitted, you pre-planned to go there for a gunfight which is exactly what this is about, you knew you'd get chased and instead of trying to outrun cops or get friends to interfere with the pursuit your first resort is to head to a known shootout location and utilise it to your full advantage.

Come on Dwayne, don't tell me you can't see that as well surely?

In regards to the cheating, I simply highlighted that it looked incredibly suspect to down not one but 3 players in a single spray, it's a bit odd, if the player isn't cheating then fairplay, they should enter Dreamhack with that flick 😂

Even now, i'm attempting to make light of the situation despite what's happened, I really am stumped as to why you wish to paint every cop main or cop character in such a bad light, cops roll with what they're given and often enough it's nothing at all.

In regards to the countless NVL claims, if you see it, report it. Report it as many times you need until the point gets across, that's the whole point of the report system.

In regards to evidence, looting cops for guns and bodycams/phones/radios kills Roleplay, you should know that by now and when I spoke to another group earlier this evening they often agreed, they want to further the roleplay after shooting situations, they want the chase, the warrants etc and that's ultimately the best example to see, alongside several situations involving the Lost MC (Who have as always set an incredible standard)

The point of the report and the report itself remains, there were countless avenues you could've taken, hostage taking, being one of the few however ultimately a gunfight was chosen from the get go.

In regards to your point about TC or box, cops chose not to and even held back because we want to extend chases, we want to extend interactions and let Roleplay flow fluidly, the people in the situation purposefully chose to circle around that garage as a means of getting the others either there or into a better position, that's clear to me honestly, this combined with the lack of Roleplay throughout, the lack of any threats or demeanor, the sudden gunfire it all stems from the Fragplay mentality, as you know, Nobody should be using Voice as a sole identifying factor, that's been stated both in OOC and on the forums many times, other things must be added to it in order for it to be validified/used.

We have unfortunately gone back and fourth multiple times here, so for the sake of the sanity of the staff reading and looking into this player report, I won't reply further unless requested by the staff team to do so, I'd rather not give them an aneurism 😂
 
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I'm sorry but hearing this frag play stuff is so confusing. Going to a spot , after being chased , car goes out you pointed guns first we pull ours. There's no frag play , would you rather us just all not do anything at all? How would you do it differently tell me , knowing full well we are all armed.

The person you are claiming to be cheating I can assure you isn't. If you wish to speak to him about it go ahead , dm me and ill tell you who to contact. As for the dreamhack comment , couldn't agree more , was a naughty flick.

I'm sorry but you telling us to leave your bodycams on you so you can further roleplay is crazy. I'm not opening myself up to raids and life sentences because one person had to panic instead of coming with us when met with clear demands.

You saying we knew we were getting into a chase? How? If he put his hands up and complied it wouldn't have led to that. Instead it led to plan b of trying to get away but the car in the clip was damaged. I wasn't in said car but I was trailing in the white zentorno.

I have played a cop character , I won't lie it is a difficult thing to do and I have never disagreed. I'll even back them up and say they get a lot of shit when it's not needed. Met plenty of amazing people and had great rp from the police. But the common theme these days is thinking that your are just loot boxes and that's all we want. If people went with the rp they would understand.
 
Dwayne Spike said:
I'm sorry but hearing this frag play stuff is so confusing. Going to a spot , after being chased , car goes out you pointed guns first we pull ours. There's no frag play , would you rather us just all not do anything at all? How would you do it differently tell me , knowing full well we are all armed.
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https://gyazo.com/ef4cabc85d8e11e4c0744ec89f2ef0cf Your boys had their guns out first, I dunno what to tell you...
 
Dwayne Spike said:
I'm sorry but hearing this frag play stuff is so confusing. Going to a spot , after being chased , car goes out you pointed guns first we pull ours. There's no frag play , would you rather us just all not do anything at all? How would you do it differently tell me , knowing full well we are all armed.
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Interferance vehicles, actually ziptie the cop, you had his hands up for long enough to rob his phone/radio/bodycam and gun, plenty of opposing and preferred avenues to take.
 
Already hit his panic , took no time for you to show up. You also mentioned us doing the same thing at the airport? Wasn't us. Can I ask who you are actually reporting? Or is it ballas as a whole.
 
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