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Report a Player - Alex Jackson - Poor/Low Quality RP (Rejected)

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Reece Smurf

Reece Smurf

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Your In-game name

Reece Smurf

Name of the player(s) you are reporting

Alex Jackson

Date of the incident

09/05/2017

Time of the incident (GMT)

2100

What best describes this incident ?

Poor/Low Quality RP

Which server did the incident take place on

Server 1

Please (in detail) describe the incident

was rping around the new hm and just have fun with police and rebels, Everyone but unmc leave so we begin to look for our cars but we then hear shots so being the nosy guy i am i go check it out and find nothing so we check the area and see someone placed a spike so we left it (i think popo placed it) a police suv then drives over it get spiked and the 1 occupant instantly runs away, he pulls his gun out and while running around the corner the cop fires 1 bullet with no form of rp... we let it slide but not without asking questions he didn't answer and decided to threaten to knock me out so i then knock him out for being rude, he then whilst knocked out starts to initiate but then realises he cant so i ziptie him and leave him for his officers but after taking off i decide maybe its poor rp to just leave him there so i go back to release him i go up to him and he gives me some poor rp, so i leave him walk away with weapon on my back and get instantly shot! as i lay there dead on the floor the police then open up on my guys innocently sat in the orca i was then left for about 5-10 mins with no rp as the officers were running around.



I have decided not to talk to alex as this is the 3rd time ive hard these issues with him.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we4sojjJfDY&feature=youtu.be
This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting

No

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans)

Yes

 
...Failing to see the low quality role play? To sum it up, you literally show a video of you zip tieing an officer, leaving him in a house, jumping back out and listening to what he wants, declining, you being shot, and then me running off into a bush.

Here is some context to what happened. A bank operation following a gunfight had occurred previously and we had just cleaned up the bank about 3-4 minutes prior. We see a tempest escaping the bank and driving off out the town, so our minds are still alert pretty much expecting to get shot. We chase the tempest to a house where it stops after the driver is hit. After waiting about a minute UNMC members pop out from behind the tempest and trap an officer in a house. The officers don't let him out and after he tells them he will knock them out, they knock him out. You are about to leave but decide to jump back out and talk once more. You hear the officers request, decline it and so what you were informed would happen, happens. Myself and the others people still in the area (about one other police officer besides the one you ziptied) are still on the lookout for UNMC potentially set up (considering one of their own men is down). So we don't walk out in the open until we presume the view of the road is clear. Still on the look out, I go over to check a construction building. No one is there.

That's where you cut the video off.

Now why we used lethal force on the UNMC is because some UNMC officers (no clue who currently) were aiding the gang in the gunfight after the bank and were on the tower with the gang members helping them via spotting and at one point, they ran up the hill I was upon to give away positions. 

What you fail to capture is where I speak to you after, I call a medic, get the medic to arrive, stand with you and the medic and other officers for about 10 minutes communicating with you while you get dealt with and once you'd been revived, we allowed you to leave with your firearm. I feel this is a personal vendetta against members of the police in an attempt to get me into trouble by cutting your video to make amends where necessary and not capturing the later events.

If you had an issue with me, you should have informed me at the time so I could have shadow played it if it was taken this far, I don't have any evidence as I didn't expect this to be an issue but apparently, it is an issue 23 hours later.

And why is the video cut at 3: 11 ?

 
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As I'm the officer who was ziptied I see myself as involved and therefore viable to comment. I ran around the corner and instantly shot because there was an armed rebel that we believed to be where the UNMC soldier was so I shot  at him because the first thing I saw was his gun come round the corner. It was late at night and after the situation I was going to log off because I was so tired having recently started college. Therefore, once I was knocked out I panicked and began to speak and then stop myself. I personally don't think alex did anything wrong UNMC were lingering around the gunfight the whole time and once I had initiated he was clear to shoot as you had ziptied an officer and I warned you!

Furthermore, you knocked me out from the front which I find poor.

One more thing, Kieron threatens that he's going to frag Alex Jackson every time he sees him? If you ask me, I'd say that is metagaming...

 
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Right I didn't cut the video this is all the footage a had.

im really concerned how a member of staff and say this is fine :/ it's shit roleplay, if you ask me pretty much hands up or die... I was there rping. 

All I see is you and Dom trying to nit pick at the video to get yourself out of shit(an old ti tactic). 

No vendetta against the police I like 90% of them, only reason I've reported you is because I've had similar shit rp from you 3 times now. 

as for you saying you stayed there and rp'd with me and nhs for 10 minutes is a lie, the other officers rp'd while you stood back and watched. 

Dom as for me knocking you out it was all for rp not a gunfight which you seem to desperately want. 

Ive been told by a few admins that this is shit rp and that you didn't even give enough time to comply. 

 
Reece Smurf said:
Right I didn't cut the video this is all the footage a had.

im really concerned how a member of staff and say this is fine :/ it's shit roleplay, if you ask me pretty much hands up or die... I was there rping. 

All I see is you and Dom trying to nit pick at the video to get yourself out of shit(an old ti tactic). 

No vendetta against the police I like 90% of them, only reason I've reported you is because I've had similar shit rp from you 3 times now. 

as for you saying you stayed there and rp'd with me and nhs for 10 minutes is a lie, the other officers rp'd while you stood back and watched. 

Dom as for me knocking you out it was all for rp not a gunfight which you seem to desperately want. 

Ive been told by a few admins that this is shit rp and that you didn't even give enough time to comply. 
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I'm sure that's true, a solid 6:06 minutes...

It wasn't "hands up or die", we were in the midst of a gunfight and you decided to turn up, you were informed that lethal force would be used if he wasn't let go, you said essentially told him to fuck off, it took 16 seconds from the last syllable  Dom says to the point where my first shot it fired, so do not try and pull the "not enough time to comply" card, that is pathetic. You say "I was there rping" I find that genuinely laughable role play if swearing at someone a couple times is now considered RP.

Let me correct it, you have a personal vendetta against members of AR. 

I stayed with you and the other officers for a solid 10 minutes roleplaying with you even using our flashlights with the NHS whilst we did an eye scan on you, not sure how that's standing back and watching.

What RP comes from muttering perhaps two words around every time you swear?

Not to mention you knock him out from the front whilst he has a gun pointed at you at 1: 41 .  Care to explain the failrp?

 
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I have

Reece Smurf said:
Right I didn't cut the video this is all the footage a had.

im really concerned how a member of staff and say this is fine :/ it's shit roleplay, if you ask me pretty much hands up or die... I was there rping. 

All I see is you and Dom trying to nit pick at the video to get yourself out of shit(an old ti tactic). 

No vendetta against the police I like 90% of them, only reason I've reported you is because I've had similar shit rp from you 3 times now. 

as for you saying you stayed there and rp'd with me and nhs for 10 minutes is a lie, the other officers rp'd while you stood back and watched. 

Dom as for me knocking you out it was all for rp not a gunfight which you seem to desperately want. 

Ive been told by a few admins that this is shit rp and that you didn't even give enough time to comply. 
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Im not getting myself out of shit at all? I'm not the one being reported but as you slated me in the report I feel I had to defend myself and show the flaws on your behalf. If you're looking for Roleplay so desperately you wont find it in the midst of a gunfight like we were in so I dont understand that. Of course I wasn't expressing roleplay as I was taking shots and was pushing a guy. I tried to contact you and apologises for my roleplay and explain the excruciating circumstances however you rejected this.

 
Before this turns into a further shitshow.

I'm gonna say, only the ones actually being reported need to comment and noone else.  Only reply back if you have anything relevant to add rather than just throwing salt at each other.

On that note, while I'm here:

As this report is against a member of staff it will be left for staff leads to deal with once it hits 24 hours and they have time.

@Ram @TomTheDoge @Drew

 
I'm sure I get on with 90% of ar 😂😂. 

There was no active gunfight, it ended a long time ago.  

I shadow played once which was 5 mins and then again which was about 2 mins 

Alex Jackson said:
What RP comes from muttering perhaps two words around every time you swear?

Not to mention you knock him out from the front whilst he has a gun pointed at you at 1: 41 .  Care to explain the failrp?
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Like I said in my previous comment all you are trying to do is point the blame at others. 

 
Right where the hell do I start with this shitshow?

1) I fail to see how anyones ideas about who has a vendetta against who really contribute anything. I'm mildly disappointed to see that your idea of resolving a situation on a report is to make it an argument of who doesn't like anyone else. Either there is a rulebreak or there isn't. Vexatious reports will obviously be investigated but try not to devolve into squabbling where simply addressing the evidence would suffice.

2) @Kieron's comment is a tad bit worrying but not conclusive. Certainly not banning for it but I'd suggest you should be more careful with your words since it would be easy infer something is wrong with your comment.

3) Knocking out a guy from the front who's pointing a gun at you. I know that you know it's poor @Reece Smurf but given that he was blocked inside at it was and he was threatening to knock you out 1 vs 4, I'm not going to make a huge issue over it. Consider it a reasonably kind warning.

4) Speaking of which. @Domm I wouldn't exactly call it good RP to get spiked, run the fuck away and get yourself blocked in a building and then basically only threaten to knock them out / use lethal force on them when they're outnumbering the shit out of you. It's not only good RP but it's also a police guideline that you should have some value for your life. What I see in this video isn't good quality and I expect better. From this video I can't see the context of the alleged gunfight already having taken place but I take it on board that you could easily be distracted by that and not roleplaying to as high of a standard.

5) In terms of the main subject of the report, It's a lazy initiation, hence why I suggested to Reece on TeamSpeak that he should come and talk about it.. I'd like to see a tad bit more than "do x or y will happen" but given the flippant response to a clear threat I can't fault Alex Jackson on his conduct. I feel that you can agree reece that you'd do the same if it were the other way around and a cop told you to fuck off when you threatened him. I stand by the fact that that it's a poor initiation but I at no point implied I would ban for it given the context (hence why I suggested you talk about it).

Overall, try not to throw shit at each other, it doesn't actually help your case and just makes you look publicly childish (that goes for everyone). In regards to this report, no action will be taken against anyone but Domm, consider yourself warned.

Report Rejected.

 
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