Report a player - 90 - GTA RP

[Yippee]

Report a player 

Your In-game Name: Tom McLean

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: 90

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 05/22/23

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 2130

What best describes this incident ?: RDM / MASS RDM

Please (in detail) describe the incident: Firstly I apologise for my poor detail report, I am dyslexic and have tried my best.

I was on my way to MRPS for repairs. The bike in the bodycam footage pulled up matching my speed. Asks me what speed my bike goes. I slow to a stop to have a better look at what he was holding in his hand as it looked like a bottle of alcohol. thinking I could try a traffic stop. Then he starts acting a bit weird, so I keep driving slowly as he says "I am looking to talk to police". I tried to reply go tp MRPS front desk. Didn't get the words out before a shotgun was pulled and instantly I was shot.

In my opinion I was given no chance to roleplay the situation. I could would have valued my life, he could have robbed me, taking me hostage anything would be better enjoyment for me and the other police involved after I was killed.

the situation went on for around 5 or 10 mins. NHS arrived and was told to get away, I wouldn't expect NHS to come near me but I don't think he realised what had happened although I do know he has bodycam footage too. Any officer who came onto the road was instantly shot gunned to the ground allowing no RP for these guys either.

I think 5 officers in total were mauled down and I did not hear a single word said to any of them. I offered the person the chance to come to discord twice and discus it. he declined by not joining the discord

The other officers are going to reply and add their footage too.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):




https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/1awxXpE-KjEUxy/d1337k8UnLjJ?invite=cr-MSx3b0ssMTU3NjcwNTcwLA



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 

[Liam]

Please provide footage of 3-5 minutes before the initial rule break for us to better gather context on the situation.

 

[Charles Vane]

Hello, so i am id 90 in the video. I can see you tried to @40 in the video which is a shame because i would have been able to explain this whole situation too you. 

This was NOT the start of the scenario here and ill be honest this whole night from almost 8pm until midnight we have been fighting police. This all started from a issue less than 30 mins before your interaction with me. We were at PD, they said my Terrorbyte was stolen so i showed up, i stepped off my bike and auto pulled a gun. Obviously police saw and got a hard on for it. This led to me being chased for about 10/15 mins and finally get rammed off my bike (as usual) and killed by police without us firing 1 shot.

I was jailed for all of 13 minutes. I got released with 7 Pebble whiskey in my pocket (my character is a reformed alcoholic) however as soon as i was released i had a swig and shit me. As you can see in my RP with you, i was roleplaying with the whiskey and drunk. With anger to the police, i questioned if you were apart of the convoy that escorted me to jail just before thats what that question was about. Basically i wanted revenge. Which i also told you, i was after police. Granted the VOIP was a bit choppy but i did tell you i was after police here. This then led to a shit load more shootouts and Lost MC vs Police this evening. So, then once i was released from prison on my way back. We heard police were blowing the gate off the Lost MC compound so obviously we all showed up removed them from the compound. Then as soon as they left, I grabbed the trusty shotty and went looking. 

I can appreciate from your point of view how this would look with no prior knowledge of the scenario and i can only apologise if you think the whole scenario was shite. However, from your video you can see i did have a reason from just before. I also did not want to just leave you dying in the street with no roleplay from us hence me coming back and trying to share my whiskey with you. But i did want blood.

Overall, i can appreciate how someone with NO knowledge of any of the previous stuff i have just mentioned and yes. Of course every interaction should be high quality. In GTARP everything is contextual and no RP scenario should be a scripted interaction. I did not want to rob you, i didnt want to give you the chance to respond. I wanted revenge hence me sticking around knowing other police would also show up. However on the other hand, no cop will ever know everything that has happened in RP as to why someone would treat them with such hostility. Much like when 10 members of a gang do something in RP and the other 15 end up being stop and searched constantly for the actions of 10. 

The whole night there were Lost MC vs Police interactions, i was jailed twice and i think on the whole other officers would agree they had fun and a fellow officer even put in OOC "I can confirm this is not random" when someone put something about RDM in OOC chat. 

Cheers,

 

[Yippee]

https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/1awt0L2uAnKQVz/d1337alYwOuT?invite=cr-MSxGSmgsMTU3NjcwNTcwLA

I personally had only come on duty around 20 minutes before the incident. As you can see in the footage I was minding my own business sitting on the motorway waiting to do a traffic stop. All the calls on radio regarding gangs. I am not FTOC trained so I generally do not attend. I got bored fast and now looking back on my footage and having calmed down somewhat I can see I had just repaired, got a mechanic kit from AE & was on way back to MRPS not to repair but to go state 11.

@Charles VaneThanks for your side of the story and yes I called the wrong number to begin with. But as you can see from the footage I then called @90 twice. 5 police sat in police liaison for over 10 minutes offering ample time for the RP to be over. In fact I was in pillbox got healed to 100% before I left these public rooms.

Yes may say you had a valid point but in my opinion you did not give me time to value any sort of life mate. You also sat waiting for police baiting them to kill them with 0 RP involved for any of them.

So yeah you had a ball of a time with your drunken RP I am sure. However the other 5 cops and 1 civilian I am sure did not get any sort of experience during the situation.

I do appreciate you replying though.

 

[welshpa]

I was the cop in the Volvo and literally came on duty drove from from Vespucci heading towards Mission Row. 
I had no lights or sirens on. Came through the cross roads noticed a car and bike and thought oh there has been a crash. 
I stopped my car to observe from a safe distance next minute  boof I was shot with a shotgun and downed instantly.

At this point I thought to myself WTF. 

I was taken to pillbox and soon realised after this there was an ongoing incident that I had no clue to what actually had happened .

Casualty of war I guess, these things happen.

 

[Rhinopatt]

I was the CID officer who attended in an unmarked X3.After leaving the fuel station (dealing with something completely different) We pulled up to the Fleeca Bank, my partner and I were instantly shot with no words spoken. We had no opportunity to value our lives and after being downed I noticed the bikes doing laps and instantly shooting any police car that arrived on scene. It felt more like a game of call of duty than a serious RP server. There was no follow up to the killing and that's where the RP began and ended for many officers. 

I completely understand there was an ongoing incident between Police and Lost last night however I don't personally think that should give you free reign to shoot every officer in sight for just being in the vicinity. At what point does the shooting stop and we come back to some sense of normality and give people the chance to RP.

I am currently at work but will upload my body cam footage later. 

 

[Bing Bar]

Hiya,

I would like to add on my perspective to this report. I was the other CID officer who was double crewed with the user above.

We were at the fuel station, speaking to an individual for a good five to ten minutes in regards to his license being banned. As you can see where the video starts, an NHS member uses their panic button and we were just around the corner so it made sense for us to attend as we had pretty much wrapped up with what we were doing with the individual we had been speaking to. As you can see in the video, a bunch of random people try to jump into our vehicle in which we instructed them to get out. They all got out the vehicle and so we left the fuel station and headed to legion car park. I asked on Freq designated for NHS if there was any update on the panic in which for the next few seconds there was no response.

Upon arriving, I see a civilian injured on the floor so I attempted to pull over to the pavement, I was going to get out of the vehicle and speak/assess the wounds to the civilian on the floor to ascertain what had gone on. Obviously, as shown in the video this did not go as planned, as before we had even stopped the vehicle, myself and the CID officer I was double crewed with were shot at point blank range with a shotgun. 

As you can see 1 mins and 10 seconds into the video, another police unit shows up and is just killed on sight. We were lying there on the floor for about five minutes in which we were not spoken to once and then was eventually helped by a firearms officer who transported the injured to pillbox. From my understanding, not a single shot was fired from police throughout the entire altercation or at least while the majority of you were present at legion park. As a result, it would have been more entertaining if you took us hostage, held us at gunpoint or even at least tried to interact with us at all whilst we were lying on the floor. From my perspective, I am sure you can understand why I am frustrated, as from our end we are responding to a panic from NHS only then to arrive and get shot with zero RP at all before or after being gunned down.
 

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[Charles Vane]

From the replies here it shows you as police are aware there was ongoing issues with the lost mc and police. That shows to me, along with the RP i provided that it was not random. As you said, there was ongoing issues. Police had just sent us to jail, blew our compound gate off. There was plenty of reason. 

Wether you know about them in RP or not, is not my problem. If you want to ignore the potential threat thats up to you but it does take the random element out of this whole thing. However i do appreciate it might not be the nicest thing, not having a clue whats going on and been shot. Not fun. However also in character not my problem.

Like i said, i had no intention in that scenario of taking you cops hostage or robbing you for your gear. And also, as a criminal first aid is not my strong suit so no, after shooting 5 cops i will not be going back to roleplay with you (although i did do that with the first officer as i realised other police were not there so could extend my rp eith you) 

For me being reported for RDM. Ill say this-

- You have already said multiple of you were aware of issues at the time lost mc/police taking the random element out completely

- I did warn you i was after police, you just thought i wanted to figure out how to pay tickets.. it wasnt that

- Of course im not going to stick around and RP with a bunch of police i have just killed thats suicide 

- You lads were obviously out the loop on what was happening and i believe other officers spoke to a member in the liason who realised the lost mc wouldnt just be wiping out police for no reason. 

- This WHOLE thing started because i tried to evade arrest on a bike and firearms decided to mag dump any lost mc in the area for me driving away haha. Your officers at the station in the initial scenario could tell you the same thing. 

Overall, i stand by the fact its not random at all, unfortunate and not a great experience for you at the time. Yes, but a rulebreak. I wouldnt say so however that will be the decision of staff leads. So ill await there reply. 

Cheers lads

 

[Fluqi]

Reminder to all parties that the following is in place when it comes to Report a Players: 

Reports are not for commenting on. The only people posting should be the reporter with evidence, and the accused with their defence. If an misunderstanding has occurred, do not delete your messages. This can land you in more trouble. The only other posters should be those with evidence or directly involved with evidence to hand. Violating this will result in a forum warning point with a 7 day suspension. Anyone creating false evidence, posting a revenge report, editing the evidence to make the accused look guilty, or knowingly providing false information on a report will end up getting banned themselves.

If you think you have something to add, it's best to speak with a member of staff to actually determine whether your involvement is needed/wanted.

No further from anyone except the reported and the reporter, unless authorised to do so by a member of staff, please.

 

[Yippee]

I am not sure if you are waiting/expecting a reply from me here. You will see this is the first time in 800 hours of play time in rpuk that I have made a report. To me that says a lot in itself. Yes I have experienced some poor roleplay in these hours on play in the city, of course I have as it happens but on this occasion you just took the piss to be honest, shooting me with all of 40 seconds RP was bad enough, the aftermath regarding the shooting of other officers. Beyond anything I have seen.

Your reply above state

"Whether you know about them in RP or not, is not my problem. If you want to ignore the potential threat that's up to you but it does take the random element out of this whole thing. However i do appreciate it might not be the nicest thing, not having a clue what's going on and been shot. Not fun. However also in character not my problem.

Like i said, i had no intention in that scenario of taking you cops hostage or robbing you for your gear. And also, as a criminal first aid is not my strong suit so no, after shooting 5 cops i will not be going back to roleplay with you (although i did do that with the first officer as i realised other police were not there so could extend my rp eith you) "

So reading between the lines here, pretty much its not your problem that no RP was carried out with 5 cops. You played more RP with the randoms that tried to help me.

And your expended RP past the first 41 seconds or so before you shot me was to say "mr, I'm just going to pour some whiskey on you" was thrilling I loved the fact I was on the floor injured, passing in and out, and was unable to reminisce with you  

For the staff leads, I obviously had no idea at the time I was reporting another staff member. And to be fair, to find out it was a staff member I was extremely shocked but I trust the Footage provided will ensure fair play on this instance

And sorry to the other officers who at the scene, are unable to reply here with bodycam footage. Fluqi above is correct lets be sensible and not spam this topic. You can potentially make your own to speak to staff idk as I am pretty inexperienced on the forum.

 

[Yippee]

This has been 3 months past now and still this report sits not attended to. My only assumption is that the reason for this is that I report a staff member. Not acceptable for the community not to have fair play in the city. It has vastly put me off playing the city as my recent play time will clearly tell you.

 

[Yippee]

I am bumping this as it appears my reply earier today has been removed?

 

[Liam]

I am bumping this as it appears my reply earier today has been removed?

This report is being dealt with. The only people who can action it are Staff Leads. Now they are quite busy with a lot of other things including this report, it’ll be dealt with when it’s dealt with.

Please don’t bump your report in the future and have a bit more patience.

 

[Yippee]

really deleted again? who and why are my comments being deleted from this topic? It is MY report I am entitled to reply on it going via forum rules

I thought 3 months was plenty of patience. Sorry I must be very inpatient. seen I can see multiple reports being delt with on a daily basis seems unusual for mines to be the opnly one sitting for 3+months

 

[Bowen]

Righto, let's get on with this. 

Firstly, I have unhidden your earlier comment as I wish to address some things in it.

This has been 3 months past now and still this report sits not attended to. My only assumption is that the reason for this is that I report a staff member.

No, you are incorrect. The reason this has taken so long is that only staffleads+ can deal with this report. To say that we protect staff members is entirely wrong and frankly insulting. I've personally banned and/or removed staff in the past for breaking rules. They are held to the same rule set as you are, higher even. 

Now that's out of the way, let's deal with the report. 

From your perspective, it does look random and that's a downside of being part of a large group like the police. Especially when you log on and something is already on going without your knowledge. 

Looking at other polices perspectives during this time, it's clear to see that it was known that the police were in a fight with the lost at the time. You may not have been made aware yet, but that's why we have reports and liaisons etc. So, I am sorry that you had a rough experience in this case but the only way to have stopped this being the case is to have to go around and "initiate" (Jesus that word gives me the creeps...) On every cop all of the time, which I'm sure you would agree is pretty boring rp. 

I would like to apologise for this taking so long but as it's only staffleads that deal with reports like this and there is only so many of us, 2 of us have recently had a child, our time is very limited. That being said, I'm sure it's frustrating regardless.

To cut a long story short, I will be denying this report.

I'm sure plenty of people will be in my DMs shortly with their two cents.

Report denied

 

[Bowen]

Thank you for your report, Unfortunately, it has been declined

The staff member will advise shortly why on this occasion they have declined to take action against the reported player.

Please do not let this put you off making further reports in the future, We rely on our player base to help keep our community clean.