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Raj

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Your In-game Name: Raj Patel

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: 88935

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 03/21/23

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 2107

What best describes this incident ?: C2.2

Please (in detail) describe the incident: Yesterday after Cutlass pushed the ranch, I killed one of the cutlass upstairs, later on I noticed his body had disappeared so I clipped it to go back to see what happened, if he combat logged or fell through the floor.

After reviewing the footage I noticed a cutlass member stand on the stairs out of view and pull the body through the floor/banister to get him off the top floor, clearly this wouldn't be possible to do in anyway and makes 0 sense.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):



https://youtu.be/_xoH26SJJzs



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: Yes

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 
Hey Raj,

Since this clip doesn't display what I saw, I would have enjoyed the chance to speak with you about this situation.
Together with Kash, another team member was lying in front of me.
The fact that people kept appearing and disappearing makes those stairs very glitchy.
I was just trying to escape and pick up my downed gang members; I had no intention of taking advantage of this situation.
People have been teleporting everywhere during our pushes, even through walls. 

As an example, watch this clip where a coalition member is shot by the stables and then somehow teleports to the garage roof.
This is just one of the multiple instances of strange things taking place on the Ranch MLO. 
https://streamable.com/mjwbgc

A clip of people teleporting around the staircase.
https://streamable.com/js4lra

We understand it's a bug in the game, but as you stated, these things wouldn't be possible, like how you can see and shoot through closed doors.

Here's an example of how you shoot through a closed door.
https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/10zn3TB1jdv2js/d1337N7Rcrzk?invite=cr-MSxIeTcsMTY2ODY1MzMs

I didn't clip my perspective but I can assure you that people were positioned differently for me.

 
snowporter said:
Hey Raj,

Since this clip doesn't display what I saw, I would have enjoyed the chance to speak with you about this situation.
Together with Kash, another team member was lying in front of me.
The fact that people kept appearing and disappearing makes those stairs very glitchy.
I was just trying to escape and pick up my downed gang members; I had no intention of taking advantage of this situation.
People have been teleporting everywhere during our pushes, even through walls. 

As an example, watch this clip where a coalition member is shot by the stables and then somehow teleports to the garage roof.
This is just one of the multiple instances of strange things taking place on the Ranch MLO. 
https://streamable.com/mjwbgc

A clip of people teleporting around the staircase.
https://streamable.com/js4lra

We understand it's a bug in the game, but as you stated, these things wouldn't be possible, like how you can see and shoot through closed doors.

Here's an example of how you shoot through a closed door.
https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/10zn3TB1jdv2js/d1337N7Rcrzk?invite=cr-MSxIeTcsMTY2ODY1MzMs

I didn't clip my perspective but I can assure you that people were positioned differently for me.
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It was impossible to know who it was, I didn't have the ID's and had to open a ticket with staff for them to give me the char ID of the person, I wasn't told who it was but to open a report with your char ID. So this is why I didn't speak to you about it.

https://streamable.com/js4lra - I don't see anyone teleporting around the staircase he is stood on it and you kill him. it looks like hes teleported after you kill him because he is forced into death emote.

https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/10zn3TB1jdv2js/d1337N7Rcrzk?invite=cr-MSxIeTcsMTY2ODY1MzMs - not sure what the relevance is here, the door isn't closed? he shoots it open and then shoots throw a glass door to kill someone, those doors are not bullet proof the same as the windows of the ranch are not bullet proof.

Everyone else saw the body in the same spot it was, I have seen someone elses clip that shows the body in that same spot, if he was going to fall through the floor or teleport somewhere else it would happen for everyone, just like how the guy ended up on the garage roof. 

I don't believe that body was anywhere else unless you can prove it, it feels like you are trying to blame "bugs" to try and get away with carrying someone through the floor/barrister. But, it doesn't really matter what I think. It's a decision for staff and i'll leave it at that.

 
It was impossible for you to call out to Cutlass via OOC? I would have responded if you did.

The door was closed from our side and I'm sure you are aware of this bug but you regularly use it against us.
A clip from our perspective of the door being closed and you shooting through it.
https://streamable.com/opcu2a

All these clips have relevance because it shows how buggy the Ranch is, take the stable clip for instance the body travelled across the map 15+ meters. As I said your clip doesn't show the two bodies laying in front of me. I can only apologise because from your perspective it looks strange with bodies missing and halfway through bannisters. I would take extra care in this area if I was faced with this situation again to avoid any confusion.

 
snowporter said:
It was impossible for you to call out to Cutlass via OOC? I would have responded if you did.

The door was closed from our side and I'm sure you are aware of this bug but you regularly use it against us.
A clip from our perspective of the door being closed and you shooting through it.
https://streamable.com/opcu2a

All these clips have relevance because it shows how buggy the Ranch is, take the stable clip for instance the body travelled across the map 15+ meters. As I said your clip doesn't show the two bodies laying in front of me. I can only apologise because from your perspective it looks strange with bodies missing and halfway through bannisters. I would take extra care in this area if I was faced with this situation again to avoid any confusion.
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Like I said, I clipped and reviewed the footage later, I was in the middle of RP with police.

Door's have nothing to do with Ranch bugs this was raised before and this is a GTA issue with doors, not just the ranch - so it has no relevance.

Also the body that landed on the garage, was rammed into a "prop" being the fence, this can cause bodies to bug out and go flying and land else where, which can happen anywhere, I've experienced this else where. Again a ticket was raised to find out who it was that picked up the body and if a report should be raised, staff locked into it and the next say advised me of the ID and to put a report on quoting the ID I was given. I will now let staff decide if they believe you in it being a bug or you exploited.

 
So you're aware there is a bug with the door but choose to position yourselves to take full advantage of a "Gta Issue" is this not exploiting?

"It appears like he's teleported," you say in relation to one of your team members who was lying on the stairs.
I've already mentioned that there were two bodies on the stairs in front of me, but your clip doesn't show them. I can only apologise and promise to be more careful in the future now that I know how glitchy it is.
One of my first occasions pushing the Ranch was at this time.
In the future, if something seems odd, I'll let everyone know OOCly.
For me to correct the problem as soon as possible and prevent any confusion, I would appreciate it if you could do the same. 

It has been confirmed by many people that bodies tend to float through the ranch's walls and other objects.
All of these things are not "possible," but we would be raising issues all the time in the forums.

 
snowporter said:
So you're aware there is a bug with the door but choose to position yourselves to take full advantage of a "Gta Issue" is this not exploiting?

"It appears like he's teleported," you say in relation to one of your team members who was lying on the stairs.
I've already mentioned that there were two bodies on the stairs in front of me, but your clip doesn't show them. I can only apologise and promise to be more careful in the future now that I know how glitchy it is.
One of my first occasions pushing the Ranch was at this time.
In the future, if something seems odd, I'll let everyone know OOCly.
For me to correct the problem as soon as possible and prevent any confusion, I would appreciate it if you could do the same. 

It has been confirmed by many people that bodies tend to float through the ranch's walls and other objects.
All of these things are not "possible," but we would be raising issues all the time in the forums.
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I didn't say we use it to exploit a bug, its impossible to tell if the door is open for the other party or not, the ranch has been pushed 4/5 times by cutlass all using the same strategy of going onto garage roof and on top of a mule/benson on the golf side of the ranch to shoot doors "open" through windows so you can shoot people in the hallway - are you not exploiting the same issue here then? 

Again without proof of what you saw, and the fact that other people saw the body in the same position I did still leads me to believe you picked the body up from a position you wouldn't be able to, no point trying to convince me I don't have the power to make a decision, wait for a staff response and plead your case to them.

I have reported you for taking a body through the floor/banister - in real life you would not be able to do this. The same has been reported in the past for picking up bodies through railings/fences from a position of safety which is an exploit. This is what the footage shows we have the same view from another perspective to prove more than one person saw the body in the same position. 

 
Did you deliberately shoot through closed doors and teleport around the ranch, as I've shown in my evidence? Isn't that clip of you guys "deliberately" positioning yourselves to shoot us knowing that the door bug was present? 

Almost every post in this report has included the phrase "let staff decide," including one where you mention filing a ticket for me to "plead." This is in addition to the fact that you didn't call out to me to talk about the matter.
You don't appear to want to talk about the situation since you're more worried about me getting punished.
As I mentioned, this was one of the first times I had pushed the ranch, and I wasn't aware of how glitchy it is. You haven't mentioned the fact that there were two guys down but you can only see one in your clip. 

We should have filed a report when you were firing through locked doors, teleporting throughout the property, and about those bodies going missing based on your beliefs.
Staff members do this for free, and liaisons are available so that we may resolve these issues amongst ourselves.
I apologise; I'm aware of how it appears in your video.
I can guarantee you that I'll take extra precautions because, particularly on those steps, what I see may not be the same for you.
Furthermore, the body was dropped shortly after, and if I could go back in time with the knowledge I now know, I would have avoided those stairs.

 
snowporter said:
Did you deliberately shoot through closed doors and teleport around the ranch, as I've shown in my evidence? Isn't that clip of you guys "deliberately" positioning yourselves to shoot us knowing that the door bug was present? 

Almost every post in this report has included the phrase "let staff decide," including one where you mention filing a ticket for me to "plead." This is in addition to the fact that you didn't call out to me to talk about the matter.
You don't appear to want to talk about the situation since you're more worried about me getting punished.
As I mentioned, this was one of the first times I had pushed the ranch, and I wasn't aware of how glitchy it is. You haven't mentioned the fact that there were two guys down but you can only see one in your clip. 

We should have filed a report when you were firing through locked doors, teleporting throughout the property, and about those bodies going missing based on your beliefs.
Staff members do this for free, and liaisons are available so that we may resolve these issues amongst ourselves.
I apologise; I'm aware of how it appears in your video.
I can guarantee you that I'll take extra precautions because, particularly on those steps, what I see may not be the same for you.
Furthermore, the body was dropped shortly after, and if I could go back in time with the knowledge I now know, I would have avoided those stairs.
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Not sure why you are trying bring in irrelevant details, you can clearly see the door is open from the person shooting, like I said this was bought up in the past; it is not exploiting to shoot a through a door because of the chance it may or may not be open on the other persons client. Also no one is teleporting around the ranch, you have shown a clip of someone being killed then rammed by a car into a fence that caused them to be thrown into the sky and land on the garage roof. This is just going around in circles.

Yes it is for staff to decide, because I do not believe you. As I said before, I didn't review the footage until after I had finished my RP with police. I didn't know who it was which is why I opened a ticket for staff an hour after it had happened to see if they were able to find out who it was; I didn't get a response until the next day after they investigated with your character ID and was told to put a report up. I didn't open a ticket to have you "plead". So please stop asking why I didn't take you to liaison. 

If you have such an issue with doors being shot through then please tell your entire gang to stop doing this when pushing the ranch and I will do the same. I've said countless time's I do not believe you; this report will not be taken down by me, if staff want to believe what you are saying then so be it. Please try to just stay on subject rather than talking about things that have nothing to do with this report, this is about the body that was taken from upstairs while you were in a position to be able to carry the body realistically. Remember staff do this for free so maybe we should both stop going round in circles and making them read so much and actually let them decide. If you truly did nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear.

 
You position yourself to take full advantage of a known "Gta Bug" but this is irrelevant? You get downed with a sig and get teleported around the ranch but don't attempt to let us know OOC? 
A car rammed the man and he goes flying sounds like a nice story but do you have any clips of that otherwise we don't believe you. This is your logic.

I or the bodies were not in the same position as in your clip and realistically there wouldn't be half a body floating through an object as seen in your clip. At any point do you see the second body on the stairs in front of me in your clip?

 
snowporter said:
You position yourself to take full advantage of a known "Gta Bug" but this is irrelevant? You get downed with a sig and get teleported around the ranch but don't attempt to let us know OOC? 
A car rammed the man and he goes flying sounds like a nice story but do you have any clips of that otherwise we don't believe you. This is your logic.

I or the bodies were not in the same position as in your clip and realistically there wouldn't be half a body floating through an object as seen in your clip. At any point do you see the second body on the stairs in front of me in your clip?
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Its not a GTA bug, its how doors work, its how they are coded in GTA. This argument is stupid. I didn't get downed and teleported around the ranch, the person also had a mini smg not sig. Why would I have a clip of something I'm not involved in? But you already have the clip of this of everything happening, even someone saying I just seen him fly across the air. I don't understand again you are brining up irrelevant things. If you think we are exploiting then report it, don't hijack another report to then try and use that as some sort of defence. 

 
I'll address this tomorrow. 
Any further points any of you want to add you have until tomorrow afternoon to make them 🙂​
 
I am sorry I am a day late, life came first xD
People do teleport away from where they have died however regardless of this we shouldn't be abusing this.
In terms of the doors. You all should know that these doors work client side. If I see any one abusing this going forward there will be bans handed out.
This is your only warning.

On the defence that the player you, Snow Vick, picked up being on the stairs as apposed to on top of the stairs. This has been tested.
Unless you have any evidence of this player being in front of you then the judgement goes as follows;

Conclusion;
Character name: Snow Vick
Rule: C2.2
Action: Permanent ban.

If anyone is caught abusing bugs/glitches they will be met with a ban. 
Without evidence to support yourself you will be banned.



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Thank you for doing your part in keeping the community clean.

Your report has been approved and action has been taken against the reported player.

If you are out of pocket due to this case please now open a compensation request here, Do make sure to mention this report.

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