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Your In-game Name: Josh Lewis

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: 730

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 04/03/22

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 135

What best describes this incident ?: (G1.2) Random Death Match (RDM) - Attacking another player without engaging in any form of quality roleplay is considered RDM

Please (in detail) describe the incident: Near Triads turf we heard panics nearby and rushed to get to the scene. On arrival we saw who we thought was involved, got out of the car and tried to stop him when ID 730 opened fire and shot me and Aria Lanes. 730 was out of colours. In an out of colour vehicle and made no attempt to RP prior to shooting. After shooting us 730 spent the entire time gloating on radio about "killing feds" and clearly was more interested in body counts rather than actually trying to Roleplay.


No attempt was made to speak on teamspeak as the attitude displayed by 730 clearly showed that he was not interested in trying to provide good roleplay.

If the guy I was chasing had combat rolled and shot me I wouldn't be making this report. It's purely as Aria and myself weren't given any opportunity to leave or spoken to in any way by 730 before opening fire.

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):



https://youtu.be/_dpd28ezOfE%20/%20https://gyazo.com/c1a7484477a3816bf75c7d26a8fb2b4c



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: No

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 
Hi Josh, 

I'd firstly like to say I don't see why you didn't take this to TS as I personally feel this could've been cleared up within a five minute conversation or less. However, you have decided to report me never the less. 

Your description of the incident is quite brief and doesn't really show the truth behind what actually occurred in the situation so let me add the full context below before I reply.  

For the last 5-10 minutes before the situation occurred at the Triads turf maybe even longer we were dealing with an unmarked X5 that had run over Jet and myself and were trying to attempt to arrest him after a smallish chase we ended back up at the Triads turf where we all arrived to help back up Jet one of our members. Two of the officers get out of the car and attempt to cuff Jet he stabs one of the officer in the chest downing him the second officer is shot down as well (I'm not sure by who but it was one of the Triads). The third officer that was in the X5 makes a run for the alley way pressing his Panic alerting other officers of the situation that had just begun as seen in your video provided at 0:58, then seconds later you hear Aria say that "It's on Triads turf so be aware of a possible hostage situation" obviously when there is a panic button going of on a big OCG turf officers can presume that suspects there will be armed and won't be afraid to shoot the police to protect and save their own members. She then again is saying "Go quick to that panic" "Hurry Hurry Hurry" so you clearly know that the officers that are on Triads turf at the time are in clear danger. Although you don't see any gun shots on the O menu when looking for a panic at 2:10 what can be presumed with the suspects being armed and shooting is then confirmed by an officer on the radio you can now hear "Officer Down Officer Down, Triads have shot them" so now you know that you are entering an active area of shooting between police and Triads where police have just been gunned down and you're just casually driving in to the turf asking "What should I do here? I have eyes on a Triad" and if you think the situation has ended or the shooting has stopped at 2:33 when you are going into detain a Triad you can see at the back by the X5 that the officer there gets shot in the head and downed so there is still active shooting at police and yet you decide to run into harms way and put both yourself and Aria at risk of getting shot to detain one suspect with many more unknown suspects in the area armed and dangerous towards yourselves. At 2:13 you can see Aria scrolling through her weapons to equip her firearm while in the vehicle before you had even fully arrived on scene further cementing that you both knew the situation that you were driving into because if there was not a threat or active shooting going on you'd have no reason to be equipping firearms ready to shoot then at 2:34 you can see Aria gets out the car and immediately pulls out her fire arm clearly ready to shoot since her colleges have just been shot at and injured I see her pull a gun out and yourself Josh running at my family member so I opened fire because the initiation of this situation had already happened between the Triads and the 4-5 officers that had been shooting and been shot down as well as the officers that had panicked yet you both came to the scene knowing exactly what was going on yet expect not to get shot when you're trying to detain triads during a time were there is still active shooting from both sides and you yourself are there with your firearms out? I shot Aria first because I saw the fire arm in her hand and I wasn't going to risk my life giving her the chance to raise it to me and shoot first. 

Now that I've given the full context to the situation I will address what you've described. 

Near Triads turf we heard panics nearby and rushed to get to the scene. On arrival we saw who we thought was involved, got out of the car and tried to stop him when ID 730 opened fire and shot me and Aria Lanes. 730 was out of colours. In an out of colour vehicle and made no attempt to RP prior to shooting. After shooting us 730 spent the entire time gloating on radio about "killing feds" and clearly was more interested in body counts rather than actually trying to Roleplay.
As I've detailed above it wasn't just the panics as you knew there were officers being actively shot while you weren't on scene and when you pulled up on scene officers were still being shot at yet decided to get on foot armed and run out after a suspect knowing that there were still armed Triads in the area that have shot at police and would likely shoot more if they had to shoot them to get themselves out of the situation. On arrival correct you saw a Triads running the back alleys who then comes up the top of the stairs followed by a trojan officer aiming his gun at him attempting to detain him this officer seconds later gets shot from the roof (not by myself) which you see in your clip provided as Aria was looking at it and watched the officer get shot, because that officer like you was now involved in the active shooting and had to be shot to protect ourselves and stop us from getting arrested so that we could get our members out of the situation before more cops inevitably turned up to the scene the same way you did with firearms out ready to shoot and detain the suspects. The fact that I am not wearing Triads colours has nothing to do with the fact that you both where shot so I'm not sure why it's being brought up. However, considering every other Triad there shooting was not wearing ANY Triad colours as we were all out of colours due to an event that had happened not long before this situation with the police started. For example some of the Triads that you can see in your clip that were involved (All out of colours I'll add) the 4x4 truck Black at 2:53 was a Triad, the shooter on the roof at 2:34 was in all black, the Triad that you tried to detain was wearing no top Black joggers with a red stripe and Jet was in all black as well. So the fact that you are bringing up that no one was wearing Triads clothing doesn't really make any sense to me since this doesn't really make a difference to anything whatsoever. With you saying that I made no prior attempt to RP within this situation is a joke really as I was involved in the build up to the situation the initial stabbing and shooting of the officers so the RP was already there and the situation had begun the fact that you entered the situation after the shooting had begun and came into the situation armed and ready to shoot makes me confused why you are then not happy with the fact that you had gotten shot when you arrived again Armed and Ready. Once I had you both down I was given the order to take you both away from the scene in order to prevent you getting found or picked up by anyone and for me to get back to turf in case anymore police turned up before we got everyone away as we know due to the Triads currently being involved with a war that we are high value to the police for arresting and will most likely be given high sentences from what we've seen happen to the Ballas so far getting upwards of 1440 months in prison. After taking you away you were both completely silent so from my perspective you've not made a single noise or tried to create any RP for me to work with in the 5 minutes or so I was with you after you had gotten shot, for me this meant that you both were RPing that you were dead or unconscious I'm unsure since there was no indication of what you were doing, I did try to speak to you in the car and got no response from either of you so I took that again that you just wanted the situation to be done and dealt with as I was attempting to continue the RP with you both yet I got nothing back from either of you so I went to just talking on my radio to my fellow Triads talking about the situation and making sure that everyone else was good and that nothing else had happened during the time that I was away from turf and as for me talking about "Killing Feds" as you have mentioned the Character I play is a criminal that does bad things like killing people on our radio we were discussing what had just happened in those short 5-10 minutes of shooting, which later turned into more gun fire once I had gotten back to turf but when I tried to RP with you when injured if I was given something back I would've been able to RP with you however it is quite hard to provide quality RP to silence. 

I'd like to add as well that the police acted the same way towards us in the regards of driving straight into the situation and with the same interation that I had with you both they also just opened fire on us in to try and I can only assume get us arrested or away from the situation to retrieve their injured officers. However, we've not put up a single RDM report from this situation because we knew that it was an on going situation where the initiation had already happened before they had arrived on scene therefore it was not RDM in any case and the same with me shooting at you both there was initiation and there was RP in the situation. We knew that any other officer would've more than likely been authorised to shoot any armed suspects in the area. I believe that this report is purely up because you are just annoyed that you got shot in the situation when you clearly knew there was active shooting happening against the police yet are so surprised that you got shot? Many other officers were shot and downed during this situation and I don't see anymore reports on myself or the other Triads involved in the situation. This just leads me to believe along side the fact you didn't want to take me to TS that you were just purely annoyed that you had gotten shot during an active shooting which is obviously to be expected when you go into active shooting that you will more than likely get shot at and probably downed if you are not careful and that you also didn't want to continue the RP because you were just annoyed at the fact you walked into open and active shooting from known armed OCG members, I'm going to assume this is also why you didn't attempt to RP with me once you had been injured as you didn't make any attempt to RP your injures as much as you could've with neither /me's or just talking to me, you gave me NOTHING to RP with so instead of sitting in silence I started talking on my radio.

If you would like to go to TS and discuss this any further I am more than happy to do so if not I am more than happy to reply to any comments or replies you have here. 🙂

 
reason to be equipping firearms ready to shoot then at 2:34 you can see Aria gets out the car and immediately pulls out her fire arm clearly ready to shoot since her colleges have just been shot at and injured
Id like to clarify it automatically pulls out the gun first, you can see me then missclicking on my caps lock wheel instead of my tab button when i was trying to switch to a taser. The reason i equipped my firearm at first while in the car was when we were pulling on scene i wasnt actually sure what we were pulling up to as we had no update on the panics and nobody was really giving any information.

I shot Aria first because I saw the fire arm in her hand and I wasn't going to risk my life giving her the chance to raise it to me and shoot first.
I am not a firearms officer therefore i have to follow avant garde and would not shoot unless i see an active threat to life which im sure you are fully aware of. At the end of the day you are out of colours in an our of colours car shooting at us without saying a word. It is poor RP and I'm sick of playing on cop and being treated like we can just be shot because you've previously engaged with another police officer. We went into that having no idea what the situation was and me saying it could be a possible hostage situation is using logic.

which you see in your clip provided as Aria was looking at it and watched the officer get shot
I actually did not see this and was not aware police were getting shot at that time. 

Like what Josh said had the person in colours that we were trying to detain turned around and shot at us this report would not be up right now. 

you also didn't want to continue the RP because you were just annoyed at the fact you walked into open and active shooting from known armed OCG members, I'm going to assume this is also why you didn't attempt to RP with me once you had been injured as you didn't make any attempt to RP your injures as much as you could've with neither /me's or just talking to me, you gave me NOTHING to RP with so instead of sitting in silence I started talking on my radio.
Because the minute we get shot there is another person saying "dump them" which you can hear at the end of the clip. Rp'ing at that point would have been useless.

there was initiation and there was RP in the situation
There was no initiation or rp as far as im concerned. Responding to a panic button does not constitute enough reason to be shot with no words.

 
i wasnt actually sure what we were pulling up to as we had no update on the panics and nobody was really giving any information.
As I've said above if you listen to the radio comms you had received from officers on scene "2:10 what can be presumed with the suspects being armed and shooting is then confirmed by an officer on the radio you can now hear "Officer Down Officer Down, Triads have shot them"" from this you can clearly gather from this that Triads turf the location that you are currently driving to there is still active shooting from Triads shooting officers. If you didn't hear this on your radio and still drove onto the turf (where there was still active shooting with the RP initiated from both sides police and Triads) and you weren't actually sure what was going on at the scene that is not my fault that you didn't take the information that you were given by your fellow officers on the radio before you arrived on scene. 

At the end of the day you are out of colours in an our of colours car shooting at us without saying a word.
Again as stated above there was not a single Triad in colours. The fact that you were shot and myself and the rest of the Triads weren't in colours at the same time again isn't my problem you were expecting us to be in full red shooting police yet the information you had there was no description of what the shooters looked like other than the area you they got shot in. Again this is just a fault on your end that you didn't take the information you had in RP and approach the situation correctly. As for the "No words" we have just shot three officers less than 15-20 seconds before you pulled around the corner and another officer shot as you pull up to the side of the turf. There are two officers who I can only assume are armed in response to the panics that we assumed had been pressed by the officer that ran to the alley way for a brief moment or two. These officers in the first case being you pulling up with you gun out I feel like I would've been not valuing my life if I began to speak to you before I shot you both because this then could've given you the chance to shoot me or the other officer to turn and shoot me as well before I could do anything it also would make no sense because we were in a situation where fighting and shooting had already begun and you had a weapon out which to me appeared as if you were ready to shoot and fight back. 

Id like to clarify it automatically pulls out the gun first, you can see me then missclicking on my caps lock wheel instead of my tab button when i was trying to switch to a taser.
Again I'd just like to say that this isn't my problem at all. You get out your car armed with a fire arm at an on going situation and expect not to get shot at ? 

I am not a firearms officer therefore i have to follow avant garde and would not shoot unless i see an active threat to life which im sure you are fully aware of.
The fact that you aren't a firearms officer isn't my problem either, you arrived on scene with a gun out that is facts. In my opinion I'd say that there was a threat to your life and Josh's too considering you drove into an active shooting between Triads and the police talking about threat to life four officers have already been shot so there is your threat to life, knowing that four officers have been shot and again I'll remind you there is still active shooting going on. 

It is poor RP and I'm sick of playing on cop and being treated like we can just be shot because you've previously engaged with another police officer.
The RP of the situation was not poor in my opinion there was more than enough RP given from both sides. And about you getting treated as such that is nothing to do with me if you have problems with other players I'd suggest you take those people to TS or make a Report as for being engaged you arrived at the situation within 30 seconds of it happening so you are involved when it started.

We went into that having no idea what the situation was and me saying it could be a possible hostage situation is using logic.
If you had listened to your radio you'd have known that there were officers down due to Triads shooting them, also if using "Logic" at a hostage situation at an OCG turf they are more than likely going to be armed and dangerous. 

I actually did not see this and was not aware police were getting shot at that time. 
Again this isn't really my problem and you should maybe try and be more aware of what is going around you because if you saw the officer getting shot you might've been able to handle the situation in a different way and you might've not been shot. 

Because the minute we get shot there is another person saying "dump them" which you can hear at the end of the clip. Rp'ing at that point would have been useless.
So you are judging my RP based of someone else telling me to dump you? 

Because I was more than happy to give you some RP while you were injured talk to you for a bit and see what interactions we could've had. But you didn't allow me to give you any RP because you based my Roleplay of what someone else had told me to do. So you saying that my RP throughout the situation was poor isn't really a fair judgement as you've just said there that it would be useless RPing when you didn't know what I could offer in terms of my RP. 

There was no initiation or rp as far as im concerned. Responding to a panic button does not constitute enough reason to be shot with no words.
You were not just responding to a panic you then later found out that officers had been shot and downed before you arrived on the scene. 

 
After deliberation with some of the staff team this report is going to be declined. Whilst the incident that may have caused this situation is being reported for RDM anything following it is still undergoing within roleplay. As police you have turned up to two panics after hearing there has been shots fired by triads and you are expecting them to be willing to talk to you etc.

 
Thank you for your report, Unfortunately, it has been declined

The staff member will advise shortly why on this occasion they have declined to take action against the reported player.

Please do not let this put you off making further reports in the future, We rely on our player base to help keep our community clean.

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