Report a player - 561 - GTA RP

[Mazza]

Server: GTA RP
Your Character Name: Mason Mack
Reported Players: 561
Date: Mar 14, 2025
Time: 23:30
What best describes this incident: G1.2, G11.2, G1.7
Please (in detail) describe the incident: Ballas was fighting police at an underground garage which left me and another Balla fighting from the outside trying to shoot the sniper out from the blackhawk when Ramsay rolled up and killed both of us with no roleplay let alone quality roleplay (G1.2). I have also added Zerg (G11.2) as Ramsay clearly knew we was trying fight the blackhawk which is confirmed in the clip below. The rule states "Forming alliances or coordinating in any way between groups during attacks on other groups or factions is strictly prohibited. Coordination encompasses activities such as body pickup, spotting, relaying information, and simultaneous combat." - Coordination encompasses simultaneous combat which is exactly what happened.

I asked Ramsay to come to QE which is shown in the screenshot but he didn't come. His excuse for this being it was the same situation even though the situation we had with Grove was about 1 hour and 15 minutes before and we was now fighting police.

(G1.7) Players who are organisation leaders should be a leading source of quality story lines and consistently strong roleplay. Thus will be held to a higher standard under our rules and guidelines. - The situation that occurred was beyond poor and there was definitely different avenues that was available for Grove to take. Such roleplay coming from a whitelisted gang is mindblowing considering the opinions that was held against non whitelisted gangs who conduct roleplay much better than this.

Zerg clip - https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/jSOlNImnxpFDUIcDF?invite=cr-MSxZTEEsOTkyMjAzNQ

Screenshot of asking for QE - https://i.gyazo.com/18619156e78c3762663fd782f6114c93.png

Thank you to the staff member(s) that take their time to complete this report.
Link(s) To Any Evidence: https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/jSOawiKjZTJ_4PfFZ?invite=cr-MSwza1AsOTkyMjAzNQ

 

[JuanPablo]

Hi Mazza,

I will just add some vital context you have failed to include in this report.

Me and the remaining grove saw/heard you shoot a rev at the heli, which then prompted a search for the individual.

We begun searching the houses and with no quality RP or interaction, also no identifiable clothing (police or grove) I was shot with a rev in a local car by you or your accomplice. Which is in itself a breach of G1.2.

This then triggered our search for you guys, we then found you at aztecas and took our well planned revenge.

I was not the person who shot you but I do have the context you failed to input. I will allow ramsay to respond to your concern aswell.

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Thanks

 

[Mazza]

Hello Juan pal,

Me nor the other Balla shot you, I believe you got shot by the blackhawk as you can see from your clip the trajectory of the bullet comes from the sky. The police was obviously looking for us and you walked into it. You was misidentified and shot by the sniper, not us. This is followed up by the police arresting you on the spot.

 

[AlfieMc]

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Morning chaps @JuanPablo in this clip it is indeed me with a sniper inside the blackhawk that shot you in the attached clip as @Mazza stated this was due to him shooting directly from that house and the one next to it, that's what us in the blackhawk seen anyway. As we done a quick replacement since we just got lit up we looked into those garden where we seen the shooter (Mazza) running back into, this was very active and had happened 2/3 time maybe already within maybe 30/40 minutes or so. So as we regained vision on those houses the only thing we seen was the white motor leaving trying to leave the area (in my perspective), this was like within 10/15 seconds after being shot my Mazza roughly.

I thought id just clear this one up for you lads, apologies i have no clips on this as i must've not hit my record for medal like i thought i did. If needed i can ask around from other dealing with this particular part in the scenario from last night.

 

[JuanPablo]

Hi @AlfieMc thanks for clarifying that.

Unfortunately, it doesn't change much from our perspective as we can only act on the information we know within RP. To expand on the context of the situation.

- Ballas are in an active shootout/hostage situation with police/grove with multiple grove members held hostage (which mazza and his accomplice were aware of as seen in their clips)
- The remaining grove members were in the area waiting for a chance to save our boys or inflict damage to ballas.
- We then hear/see the blackhawk being shot obviously by ballas.
-This then prompts us to go looking for the ballas shooting, this is the point where I was shot at and where the grey area comes in.

We believed I was shot by a revolver as a sniper bullet would be fatal and I would have been downed. We continued the roleplay that we were shot by ballas with a revolver, however this was confirmed by police that they did infact shoot at me after the fact. Unfortunately in roleplay we truly thought a sniper would've been fatal and had seen the rev type shots from ballas towards the blackhawk.

-We then begin our search for the balla members and ramsay calls out a local car driving away from the gunfight towards azteca turf.
- We then track down the car to the front of azteca turf where I identified Mazza and another balla.
- Our next action was revenge, as a result of multiple of our members being killed, held hostage and me being shot by ballas (only confirmed OOC it was in fact police and not ballas).
-Ramsay then tracked down mazza and his mate and told them fuck the ballas and shot them both.

Just to reiterate I completely understand its unfortunate that it was not in fact you who shot me in the houses. However, you and your members are actively in a gunfight/hostage scenario with police and grove. The RP story/rationale followed that and you were inevitably caught out, this was still an ongoing hostile situation.

As stated in my previous reply I will leave it to ramsay to respond aswell.

Thanks

 

[Rogueybearx]

I don't need to add anything Juan has cleared up my side of the story very well. I have nothing to add.

 

[Rogueybearx]

Also you moan about poor role-playing? How did this incident start again? It started with Ballas trying to tax the clothing store. They taxed someone in green which is not affiliated with Grove in anyway. Then they told him "GOOD BOY" then was shot and police took a few ballas. You then proceed to come to Grove turf and demand guns. Which ofc we said we are not paying as it had nothing to do with us. We tried to RP it out ans you had the style of RP hands up we taking your shit... all I have done is try and RP and act on information I know in RP as Juan stated. He got shot we believed it was ballas. They currently had Grove as hostages and we acted on that.

This is not RDM in anyway as there is valid role-playing behind my decision to shoot. The fact you question my role-playing after how this started is actually comical. I feel this is an attempt to gain back items you have lost and a poor one at that.

I will let staff review this as we have done nothing wrong in this situation and in no way was teaming with police as we engaged you on our own.

 

[Mazza]

- Ballas are in an active shootout/hostage situation with police/grove with multiple grove members held hostage (which mazza and his accomplice were aware of as seen in their clips)

Not sure what you mean by this? Me and Billy wasn't aware until after the whole situation was done that Grove bodies were in the underground car park. Me and Billy turned up to fight Police and the comm I gave was simply that Grove had turned up to the situation.

it doesn't change much from our perspective as we can only act on the information we know within RP.

The fact of the matter though is that you believed we shot you which is why you shot on sight but as we didn't shoot you, where was the roleplay to back the shooting on sight? I get you acted on what you believed in RP but what you believed is wrong and you have made a mistake leading to the RDM. Us two outside had nothing to do with the Grove bodies inside as I said we had no clue that they were in there we simply turned up to fight the blackhawk from outside.

- Our next action was revenge, as a result of multiple of our members being killed

This situation had happened over one hour ago. We have no war rules to shoot on sight and there was 0 roleplay given at the time of this occuring, both Ballas was outnumbered outside and could of easily been hands'd by Grove but there was no effort to actually initiate some roleplay we was just shot on sight, phones and radio's taken and then dumped.

-Ramsay then tracked down mazza and his mate and told them fuck the ballas and shot them both.

Here's my issue though, Ramsay comes with no identifiable colours on in a local car and shoots me and Billy on the word "fuck" which gives me what? Maybe 0.01 seconds to react? It was clearly stated by Charles in a recent report between Mara and Hustlers (https://www.roleplay.co.uk/threads/report-a-player-hustlers-gta-rp.428108/page-2) that you should "Let them actually hear you say SOMETHING, give them a second to process whats going on then carry on." Which Ramsay did the first part but failed to do the second part.

They taxed someone in green which is not affiliated with Grove in anyway.

Ramsay. As I said in RP we had a member of Grove and he confirmed that Schnidel was a hangabout, just because he is not in your F6 does not mean he is not affiliated with you in "any way". Again as I said in RP if none of this was to happen you would say he is your hangabout but now he has created problems you are now trying to deny the fact that he is affiliated with Grove, regardless if on the F6 or not.

@AlfieMc appreciate you putting your side of the story forward also.

 

[Rogueybearx]

I have given my account above. We had valid roleplay reasons to shoot you. We believed that the information we had was correct at the time. You as ballas also had our members kidnapped and surrounuded by police. Which we did not get involved in. This is not RDM and I did shout at you before shooting. Given it one more second would not have saved you as you was lock picking a car. This was an aggressive style roleplay due to what happened before and I did not go down in any situation so was fully aware of everything going on. I will let staff look at this as I dont believe I am at fault here.

 

[Mazza]

You as ballas also had our members kidnapped and surrounuded by police. Which we did not get involved in.

Well clearly you did mate as me and Billy were fighting Police, not Grove. We both had zero roleplay with any Grove for other an hour at the point you shot us.

Given it one more second would not have saved you as you was lock picking a car.

This isn't a valid reason, it's the fact that you should at least give the chance, you've shot me before even finishing your sentence and you could see me lockpicking the car meaning I was in the lockpicking menu/animation. It's just poor. Obviously we will never know if it would of changed the situation, not only that but Billy was not lockpicking, he was in the car looking behind at the blackhawk and he was shot about a second after with also no chance to do anything.

 

[Rogueybearx]

Well clearly you did mate as me and Billy were fighting Police, not Grove. We both had zero roleplay with any Grove for other an hour at the point you shot us.


This isn't a valid reason, it's the fact that you should at least give the chance, you've shot me before even finishing your sentence and you could see me lockpicking the car meaning I was in the lockpicking menu/animation. It's just poor. Obviously we will never know if it would of changed the situation, not only that but Billy was not lockpicking, he was in the car looking behind at the blackhawk and he was shot about a second after with also no chance to do anything.

That's a lie. You can hear him in the clip sys"WATCH OUT MAZZA CAR COMING UP" so he was fully aware I was there. But anyway let's leave this for staff. Also did he say that over radio as is suspiciously clear? Was you in Discord with him?

 

[Billy Joe]

Hi to all concerned,

I am the other Balla who got RDM'd with Mazza.

Firstly, I want say I don't appreciate you throwing accusations to try and flip the narrative and quite frankly you are clutching at straws. As you can see from my clip I do not call you out I said "Just watch that black hawk there Mazza, I think it's looking at us bro" You can see from my clip I was keeping my eye on the black hawk the whole time and had no idea you were there.

Secondly, where are you getting this idea that we are communicating in discord? In my clip you can clearly see I am using and holding the radio to speak and you can also hear the radio beeps.

lastly and more importantly, I am very disappointed from you especially Ramsay, as a gang leader the level of roleplay we received was abysmal. From you of all people I would have expected a lot better. I heard no words what so ever, all I heard was gunshots, I then looked forward, then I'm dead? Do you really think that is acceptable?

I really think you need to think about your actions before you take them because this server pride's itself on high quality roleplay and story lines and what we have received from you is atrocious.

If staff have any further questions for me please do not hesitate to ask.

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[Rogueybearx]

Your clip is clear. Thank you for showing that. Still with context to the massive situation that was going on this is not RDM. All actions performed had valid RP reasons and was justified we believe we was shot at by you and with the whole evenings events it made sense. This is not low quality roleplay this was in my opinion an active shooting situation as far as the information we had.

 

[JuanPablo]

Not sure what you mean by this? Me and Billy wasn't aware until after the whole situation was done that Grove bodies were in the underground car park. Me and Billy turned up to fight Police and the comm I gave was simply that Grove had turned up to the situation.

Unfortunately your clip shows you are on radio receiving comms and clearly aware of the magnitude of the situation.

Ballas had grove members hostage and an active situation was underway and you got caught with your trousers down.

You shot us on our turf an hour before you then kept our bodies hostage and we found you at that carpark surrounded by police, you then killed another grove member. We then found you.

Unfortunately, you were in an active hostile situation and because you got caught out you've resorted to a report.

 

[Rogueybearx]

Also to add if staff check the kill logs they will find that a Grove member was shot and killed shortly before this incident. As stated many times above it was an active situation. We then identified you are ballas and acted as we would in RP which makes sense.