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Report a player - 417, 296, 246, 300 - GTA RP

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BrendanLeeT

Los Santos NHS
Los Santos NHS
Los Santos Firefighter
Gruppe 6 Command
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Report a player 

Your In-game Name: Mason Edge

Name and/or ID of the player(s) you are reporting: 417, 296, 246, 300

Which server did the incident take place on: GTA RP

Date of the incident: 01/07/23

Time of the incident (GMT) 24hr Format: 2200

What best describes this incident ?: (C2.2) Exploiting

Please (in detail) describe the incident: We went to MRPD to transport 4 PICs to prison and upon arrival we noticed these 4 people outside waiting. We got called to another transport and upon leaving they requested to visit an inmate by the name of "george saint geegland " which was the name in the dispatch. (https://gyazo.com/e06152aff8b5c4184f7cbf42574dc5fd).

We told them we have another job to attend but we would be happy to do a visitation once we're freed up.

Once we arrived back at prison and processed the 2nd PIC I went into the courtyard to search for "Geroge" who was the inmate while Fisher Hendry went to the reception to conduct a search on all of the visitors.
I searched George prior to bringing him into visitation (Medal Clip) and all they had on them was:
1,250 cash
1 bandage
1 sheet of plastic
3 smart phones


After the search George was escorted over to the visitation room and I went into the reception to help search the visitors. At no point did Geroge have a radio on his person prior to entering visition.

After visitation was over Geroge was searched again and he had a radio in his possesion which he never had minutes prior. We're unsure to who actually passed the radio through the glass but you hear "Cara Saint Geegland" saying "Here ya go gramps" and see who I believe to be Bobby Delta doing the animation to pass an item on the YouTube clip.

Due to the uncertainty who passed the item through the wall I've provided the IDs of all the visitors; I didn't manage to catch the ID of the inmate who recieved the item and only a name.

It's mentioned in the YouTube clip by Fisher "This old guy somehow has a radio and 3 phones" but the phones was in his possesion prior to visition and it seems to be only the radio passed through the wall.

Usually I resolve this in Liason but upon asking in OOC something along the lines of "To those that had visitation how did you manage to pass a radio through thick concrete walls and bullet proof glass" with the only response being from staff telling me to make a report. I didn't see any of that group responding to my message.

Fisher told me he asked them to go to Liason https://gyazo.com/1a3926789fcc3863f707dd84f52fcf76 but unsure to if this happened so to play it safe I'll mark it as not attempted to resolve.

It might only be a minor thing to pass a radio through the wall but it's not the first time something like this has happened and weapons have also been passed into prison this way. It's also common sense you cannot pass items through walls and passing items through walls is an example mentioned with the exploiting rule on the rules page.

Clip 1 shows myself escorting George to the visitation room and conducting a search:
https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/PFnjfvHCa4zs_/yQegRvRv9Tvh?invite=cr-MSxCWUosMTQyNTE2ODQxLA

Clip 2 shows Fisher Hendry searching all visitors and asking to see their IDs which shows session id and names | Shows George being searched and having a radio in his possesion:
https://youtu.be/dOWUREri9VY

Link to any evidence (Youtube/Screenshot):



https://medal.tv/games/gta-v/clips/PFnjfvHCa4zs_/yQegRvRv9Tvh?invite=cr-MSxCWUosMTQyNTE2ODQxLA



This report is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!: Yes

You tried to resolve the situation with the player(s) before reporting: No

This is not a revenge report (Abuse will lead to forum/community bans): Yes

 
I am player 417 "Cara Saint Geegland" - I wasn't even aware a radio had been passed and I do apologize for not replying in OOC I genuinely didn't see the chat. Moving on to the video of all players being searched before entering the prison , as you can see I was never in possession of a radio, logs will also show that Cara has never even owned one. Now to the part where you ca hear me say "Here you go Gramps" unfortunately I don't have a clip myself but if you watch the video again, you can see me take out my phone, say what I say and put away the phone again as all I had done was airdrop my number.

 
Hello @BrendanLeeTfirstly i would love to get you in a liason on discord or teamspeak to try and resolve this!

Here's my side of the story: 

I was brough out of prison to visit Cara, you searched me and all was fine.
During the visit i grabbed her phonenumber through air drop (using the smartphone you saw in my inventory). When i walked in to the booth section i noticed a few people who i didnt know or had any affiliation with and to be honest i never even noticed that one of them might have passed me stuff through the wall. I agree that doing such a thing is exploiting and i belive you touched on it when i was about to leave on wich my response was ''No that would be impossible''. 

You took  the phones off me and the radio and i thought we where square, but i had no controll over who passes me stuff. I also have my OOC chat turned off most of the time since i find it distracting. 

 
I am player 417 "Cara Saint Geegland" - I wasn't even aware a radio had been passed and I do apologize for not replying in OOC I genuinely didn't see the chat. Moving on to the video of all players being searched before entering the prison , as you can see I was never in possession of a radio, logs will also show that Cara has never even owned one. Now to the part where you ca hear me say "Here you go Gramps" unfortunately I don't have a clip myself but if you watch the video again, you can see me take out my phone, say what I say and put away the phone again as all I had done was airdrop my number.
Hello Cara hope all is well, the reason I had a slight suspision it might have been you was Bobby Delta (I believe) did the animation to pass something over as soon as you said "Here y ago gramps" which could have been him passing a radio to you and you to pass it though. Which isn't the case so no issue there.

The only reason I had put all IDs was because we have no clue who passed the item through so we mentioned everyone in the visitation in hopes something can come to light about this. Whether it would be an admission to who did it or staff doing digging and figuring it out themselves if that is even possible. 

If you never passed anything through, and this goes to all IDs who never did, this report isn't aimed at you but due to the uncertainty all of you was mentioned.

Regarding you saying "Here ya go gramps" Fisher was positioned in a way he could barely see the phone and I never picked up on you pulling the phone out and putting it away.

Thank you for clearing up your side hopefully one of the other 3 visitors will reply to this and give their side of the story.

Hello @BrendanLeeTfirstly i would love to get you in a liason on discord or teamspeak to try and resolve this!

Here's my side of the story: 

I was brough out of prison to visit Cara, you searched me and all was fine.
During the visit i grabbed her phonenumber through air drop (using the smartphone you saw in my inventory). When i walked in to the booth section i noticed a few people who i didnt know or had any affiliation with and to be honest i never even noticed that one of them might have passed me stuff through the wall. I agree that doing such a thing is exploiting and i belive you touched on it when i was about to leave on wich my response was ''No that would be impossible''. 

You took  the phones off me and the radio and i thought we where square, but i had no controll over who passes me stuff. I also have my OOC chat turned off most of the time since i find it distracting. 
To be honest prior to the 2nd search I think you said something along the lines of "There is a problem" and I don't think you wanted the radio to be passed through. This report is mainly aimed at the visitors as you never used the radio.

If you had kept quiet about the radio and then used it in the courtyard I would have a different opinion but to my knowledge you wasn't involved as you cannot help people passing items to you and you never took advantage of it.

Looking at your reply you never intended for this to happen so you're at no fault. 

If you still want a chat I'm free whenever just send me a DM on the forums with a time and I'll try to be there.

 
As BrendanLeeT has said this report is to find out who passed the radio due to the fact we got no response to our ooc messages.  Happy to go to liaison with whomever it was and talk with them.

 
@SamCat@L1L@BrendanLeeT@Fisher Hendry

Mason, Fisher, Jeep and Lexi, has this liaison happened? If not can we try and get it rectified asap.

Firstly can we get the other 2 people to make themselves known before I have to out them myself.
Secondly to get the liaison sorted in a timely manner.

 
I think we assumed that no liason was needed from mine and @SamCatside and neither of us handed over the radio, we've got no further input as the others acted on their own accord.
@Aiden

 
As the person who passed the radio has not made them selves known there has been no liason.  I had hoped that one of the people involved would have made the person aware of this report and this could have been dealt with by now.

 
That interaction from my side with the other two was my first interaction ever with them, I had randomly met them in legion, I wouldn't even know how to reach them, I was hoping one of them would've commented 

 
Sadly there is no way from these clips or what the others above in comments could supply to prove who it was.
But doing exactly what was done, passing items through a window is quite simply just not allowed. Whoever reading this and have not stood forward, keep that in mind.


Report declined

 
Thank you for your report, Unfortunately, it has been declined

The staff member will advise shortly why on this occasion they have declined to take action against the reported player.

Please do not let this put you off making further reports in the future, We rely on our player base to help keep our community clean.

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