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Police (VDM and Tear Gas abuse) - Looking For Comp

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I don't want to see anyone banned all I'm looking for is compensation for my chopper which was crushed due to this incident. I'm 60% sure that if that hunter hadn't VDMed 3 guys and the officers hadn't thrown tear gas we would have gotten away.

 
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Ok well they used tear gas and you used the double escape method to avoid it, so really your bug abusing. They have a right to use the gas as there are many rebels and it is hard for cops when they are out numbered with not much support( due to cop numbers online at that time). Also if there are multiple rebels shooting at the cops at the bank rob and the only way to kill some of them by not having to get out and risk their own life, is by ramming one of the rebels to kill him, then they have every right. It is not class as vdm as the whole bank rob scenario is rp.

Please stop complaining all the time as alot of the time you have nothing to complain about.

If I was in a battle between me and 4 rebels I would use gas as they have the current advantage over me.

Also one of your guys said he will break the life rule as apparently one of the cops where vdming. So if your guys are saying they will break rules because apparently those cops broke rules, well then your just as bad as they are. So dont be a so hypercritical. 

P.S. Doing a bank rob is criminal activity so the cops have every right to crush your helicopter if they can. Next time make sure you dont leave your vehicles behind if your doing criminal stuff. Your own fault there.

 
I was told by wilco that gas was meant to be used only for crowd control....

and correct me If I'm wrong but the new life rule does not apply to RDM or VDM

 
That is VDM right there. If the cops don't have the balls to get out of the car and shoot like real men, then they shouldn't attempt to overcome a bank robbery. Same goes for rebels who just hide in their ifrits (luckily, not in this case).

NEVER has any cop attempted to VDM us when we did a bank robbery, everyone always played fair and used guns.

I think it's the CSO who needs to be put in check right here.

 
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Killer Rabbit said he was going to get fired, but I don't want that to happen. All I want is some compensation.

 
I thought VDM was defined as RDM using a vehicle. I think in combat situations you are allowed to use your vehicle as a weapon, however, this is frowned upon, especially when there are alternative ways to deal with a situation.

EDIt: I've re read the rules and it looks like they've changed since I read this^^

 
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Killer Rabbit said he was going to get fired, but I don't want that to happen. All I want is some compensation.
Well if killer wants to fire him that is his choice, but my opinion is if your surrounded by 4-5 rebels and your in a hunter on your own, getting out of it is suicide. If they can kill one of the rebels by running him over to reduce the numbers then in my opinion that is fine. To run over someone would only be allowed in this sort of situation or worse. If the cop had 3-4 cops with him then running criminals over would not be acceptable as there is a fair advantage.

If one of you rebels where in a rp and you had a ifrit and there where 5 cops shooting at you, (lets say your protecting a area) you would run some over to reduce the number and to hopefully be able to get out of the ifrit and not get shot at from all angles and then  killed. 

 
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This will all be delt with by tonight one way or another.

Thank you for the video price.

 
Well if killer wants to fire him that is his choice, but my opinion is if your surrounded by 4-5 rebels and your in a hunter on your own, getting out of it is suicide. If they can kill one of the rebels by running him over to reduce the numbers then in my opinion that is fine. To run over someone would only be allowed in this sort of situation or worse. If one of you rebels where in a rp and you had a ifrit and there where 5 cops shooting at you, (lets say your protecting a area) you would run some over to reduce the number and to hopefully be able to get out of the ifrit and not get shot at from all angles and then  killed. 
I disagree completely.

We both know that the amount of damage sustained by Hunters or Ifrits is Minimal when shot at. Had the CSO been driving an SUV or Hatchback (i.e. a car that can take great damage and is not strong enough to withstand bullets) then I might have closed an eye. But not here. There is no RP if someone closes himself in an armored vehicle feeling all safe and comfy, driving around running people over.

He was in no danger whatsoever and if he risked getting killed by going in, then he should have waited for backup.

If I'm in my Ifrit and I'm being shot at by the popos, I'd leg it or find cover, get out and shoot. 

 
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So you're recomending that we sit back in ifrits knowing you can do nothing and run you over. There is no fun in that. There is no RP in that. As I said in a previous post I have 2.6m in the bank I don't need the 15k cut I would get, I do it for the RP. We always have great fun with bank robberies, until some eijits start VDMing and throwing tear gas. We have nothing to combat tear gas and you can pick us off at leisure. 

 
Price I did not recommend that, I said that would probably happen.

Anyhow guys, I will leave this now, I have stated my view on this.

However Killer will make the final decision as he is the CSI, I am not.

As killer said he will deal with it tonight.

 
does this whole thing mean that i can VDM cops if there are more than 2? cos that doesent seem right atall

 
No. We are dealing with it.

VDM is VDM, its a server rule.

For the last time, its being delt with. 

 
Correct me if I am wrong here... but replaying the first part of the video over and over the person who got VDM'ed was behind or in a bush ?

In terms of the tear-gas yes this needs to be addressed and i will have discussions about this today, in the meantime double tapping escape is exploiting so i would advise against that in the meantime.

 
The first VDM was an accident, the hunter came in full speed and it was just unlucky in my eyes.

The next few have been discussed and delt with. 

 
Correct me if I am wrong here... but replaying the first part of the video over and over the person who got VDM'ed was behind or in a bush ?

In terms of the tear-gas yes this needs to be addressed and i will have discussions about this today, in the meantime double tapping escape is exploiting so i would advise against that in the meantime.
the police tried to shoot me on sight at coke processing when i was unarmed

 
The first VDM was an accident, the hunter came in full speed and it was just unlucky in my eyes.

The next few have been discussed and delt with. 
So could someone kindly clarify this once and for all? Are police allowed to VDM if they are in their hunters and are being shot at by 2+ rebels?

Thanks.

 
No. VDM is a server rule.

Police are not allowed to act above the server rules, or the laws of altis. 

 
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