Police Reports

[Nikki Nixon]

So as everyone knows who is in the police or has been arrested. You know that after being arrested and are taken to the cells you know its going to be some time before you are let go or sent to prison. This suggestion is to hopefully recommend a more efficient and better way for both police and criminals. I understand that it is a part of all the RP BUT i think i it a little to much and a change is needed as it never used to be this. Lets go trough the current standard report. Police arrest someone and take them to the cells. Already you have bodycam evidence i.e. medal clips etc. You get them in the cell you say all the legal stuff After taking their prints you then search them. You "take a photo of their pockets" screen shot. A video and a screen shot. Up load them. Then once its all bagged up and rights have been read. you start the report. Recently told to engage with the suspect while writing the report and this makes it all longer. So you have to write the details of what happened. Add videos. photos. Link police officers involved. link suspect and or prints. This takes time and even longer if they are kicking off and or talking smack. To talk with them during all this takes time AND if they want legal reps. Then you have to go put the stuff in evidence and link the report to the evidence and remember numbers and write things down. By this time easy 30 mins to an hour has passed if you're rushing. and a good job of it will take well over an hour. I think this can be made better. I understand all this is done for future court RP. But hear me out. Also i think report needed to be written for a minimum fine of 5k is too low. I think this should be upped to 30k.

You as a police officer and criminal just want to get back out there and not be stuck in the cells. even more so when its 2 in the morning. So free to take ideas . My thinking is how much of evidence and a report is done based on the gang and or crime done. Examples:

Very new player stabs someone and is taken to the cells. Knife is taken small report with bodycam and pocket evidence. That's it. All that is enough to send to jail or fined. Nothing huge and keep it simple easy fast. Anything lower also the same for car offence punching robbing.

When it comes to guns and high drug sales and or huge gang fights or raids then the work for a full report and evidence is done spending time in the cells getting it all down.

Also making a guilty plea much more attractive so that suspects don't need legal reps and will save everyone time. Like 20% to 50% off fines and jail time. Up to the arresting officer, I think many will agree it is a time drain and a lot of officers clearly avoid doing all this paperwork cause they want to be out and about roleplaying and having a laugh. Yes you can have fun in the cells and everything is easier said than done. But it is a pain in the ass. As for evidence for court cases. for punching . knifes etc video and pocket photo evidence should be more than enough. There may be ways around this i am not thinking of but i can say not every officer in the police look forward to doing all that work for the small arrested they legally have to make and do the report after. you can see it in the reports. you can hear and see it on patrol. SO lets make everyone happy and make it efficient and simple.

Maybe there is a more automated way to change all the linking of reports and evidence that would also greatly help things move along.

Let me know ideas. take away add on. lets keep it on topic too.

Cheers

 

[Phoenix]

I'm not sure what I'm missing here - you're saying that for crimes such as possession of a blade or simple assaults, you should just be able to make a report with the bodycam and evidence of their pockets. Isn't that what you're doing already?

 

[Nikolai]

Also i think report needed to be written for a minimum fine of 5k is too low. I think this should be upped to 30k.

no, makes it possible to get someone for some larger crimes and not put anything on their record.

afaik, it was more done so you didn't have to write a report "legally" for a traffic stop or something

Very new player stabs someone and is taken to the cells. Knife is taken small report with bodycam and pocket evidence. That's it. All that is enough to send to jail or fined. Nothing huge and keep it simple easy fast. Anything lower also the same for car offence punching robbing.

When it comes to guns and high drug sales and or huge gang fights or raids then the work for a full report and evidence is done spending time in the cells getting it all down.

reports should be equal, they need detail, also, not everyone can record(nor do they have to) so good detail on reports are needed

Also making a guilty plea much more attractive so that suspects don't need legal reps and will save everyone time. Like 20% to 50% off fines and jail time.

defo not, should be up to the officer, with a max limit on how much you can shave off.



if this is to ensure that crims don't get bored, then well, no one forces you to do the report straight away for non gang shootout etc. add the relevant charges and whatever you can't edit after the fact and deal with them to let them have fun, or prison, and then write the report a bit later.

 

[Nikki Nixon]

I'm not sure what I'm missing here - you're saying that for crimes such as possession of a blade or simple assaults, you should just be able to make a report with the bodycam and evidence of their pockets. Isn't that what you're doing already?

yes but i mean all the linking evidence with the report. Doing everything that take up to an hour.

no, makes it possible to get someone for some larger crimes and not put anything on their record.

afaik, it was more done so you didn't have to write a report "legally" for a traffic stop or something

reports should be equal, they need detail, also, not everyone can record(nor do they have to) so good detail on reports are needed

defo not, should be up to the officer, with a max limit on how much you can shave off.



if this is to ensure that crims don't get bored, then well, no one forces you to do the report straight away for non gang shootout etc. add the relevant charges and whatever you can't edit after the fact and deal with them to let them have fun, or prison, and then write the report a bit later.

I understand, I have been told on my police char that bodycam is a 100% must as its the best form of evidence and it cant lie. If someone fights it in court words wont be enough and they could sue. My meaning of this whole post is to get police out and about more to roleplay and not stood in the cells wrting a reportand uploading evidence spending almost all their time in the cells. And to try and make the linking evidence process more user friendly. If everyone is fine with how long it takes to do the whole arresting and report process then all good maybe its just me. But i truely dont think it is.

 

[Nikolai]

yes but i mean all the linking evidence with the report. Doing everything that take up to an hour.

depends on how quick you write i suppose.

think i tend to at most spend 30 minutes in cells, only really spend more time when there's a big sit with alot of PICs as you need to fumble around for evidence or wait for the mass report.

I understand, I have been told on my police char that bodycam is a 100% must as its the best form of evidence and it cant lie.

video is the best evidence yes, but it's not a 100% must, and whoever has told you that haven't kept up with the police policies.

If someone fights it in court words wont be enough and they could sue

they can sue even with evidence, that's why it's preferred to double crew anyway, as MG11(essentially witness reports) or sufficient in court atleast here on the server.

My meaning of this whole post is to get police out and about more to roleplay and not stood in the cells wrting a reportand uploading evidence spending almost all their time in the cells. And to try and make the linking evidence process more user friendly.

it doesn't get much more user friendly than it is.
the only real time you're "forced" to present evidence in cells is if a solicitor requests it, if not, upload it and add it as and when it's done, if they don't contest it, there's absolutely nothing forcing you to stay in the cells whilst waiting for the evidence to finish uploading

afaik(i haven't read it in a while) you have 24 hours to add evidence on a report before it becomes too much of a issue