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PLF - Checkpoint Roleplay Issues

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Lexi

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http://www.hitbox.tv/video/334445

I'm so confused right now: make up your mind before whether you're going to be shooting or shouting. I can't deal with the combo, unless you're going to be RPing your death rattles... which would be awesome! 

I'm not here to play FPS (that's what tactical communities are for), I'm here to RP: I figured it was just a random RDMer, disappointed it wasn't better handled.

 
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I was not involved but I watched the video over and over and would like to give me opinion on this. To me it looks like because you went around the checkpoint instead of stopping they wanted to take out your tired, not shoot to kill. This is proved my [PLF] Samurai walking up to you wanting to talk. When you then shot him it was obvious that his friends were gonna shoot you. To be honest if I was in this situation I would have reacted in the same way. I personally meet PLF in-game quite often and have to disagree to you that their RP is poor because they have some very good RP, I cannot speak for all but everyone that I have met in-game RP's well.

Dont take this as an offence, I just wanted to give my opinion.

Kind Regards,

[TI] Protety

 
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Thanks for your input Protety. As a TI member; allied to PLF I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt.

I couldn't be bothered to stop and pull up the checkpoint bars as I often do every server restart. Like most people I drive around the police checkpoint. I shot at the first individual instinctively as my engine was shot out (you can see I make 2-3 quick shots at the individual I see, there is no thought here, only instinct), not just the tires so I believed I was just being randomly sprayed at, not calmly shot in the tires. I also did not hear anyone talking to me.

In this situation where I was clearly shouting "don't shoot" and they had the number advantage, I think it was obvious they should've engaged in RP but who knows, maybe I'm just better trained or more experienced?

 
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Its pretty much what Protety said, if u just woulda talked to samurai all woulda been fine, but as you killed him there is no coming back from that.. and you had someone else from behind turning up to try to kill us after it too.... All we wanted to do was to tax

 
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Im not blaming you for not stopping at the checkpoint, as I dont either most of the time. Neither I blame you for shooting [PLF] Samurai, sometimes in this kind of intense situations you just react like that out of reflex. But the same goes for the reaction of PLF to this.

 
Grannez said:
Its pretty much what Protety said, if u just woulda talked to samurai all woulda been fine, but as you killed him there is no coming back from that.. and you had someone else from behind turning up to try to kill us after it too.... ALl we wanted to do was to tax
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As I said, I instinctively made that shot as there was no apparent presence at the checkpoint (no people around) and no effort to RP the "taxing" was made. Retrospectively, I see there were people there but in the moment all that happened is bullets were shot at me (seemingly spuriously) and I took a defensive position and returned fire at the apparent RDMer.

Just shooting the tires out is not roleplay!

The individual who approached me should have made his intentions clear (as this was a premeditated action) and shouted them. Once I realised he wanted to roleplay you can see how my actions change; I realise he's probably dead (but don't continue to shoot in case he survived) I try to call out multiple times to my assailants and tell them to ceasefire, as well as going to heal myself (thus appearing harmless, rather than with a weapon out). 

 
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If you drive in 3rd youd of heard me shouting to get out. If you refuse to play in 3rd you wont here our intentions of RP as you clearly hear nothing here, shooting your tyres out was a last resort to your refusal to stop. So really its a refusal to listen to us which would be a refusal to rp.

 
I wonder if the choice of words "I surrender" is better than the words "Don't shoot"?

 
Well, we had people shouting, but as you see in the vid you cant even hear shots hitting your truck, so maybe up your volume ingame

 
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If you drive in 3rd youd of heard me shouting to get out. If you refuse to play in 3rd you wont here our intentions of RP as you clearly hear nothing here, shooting your tyres out was a last resort to your refusal to stop. So really its a refusal to listen to us which would be a refusal to rp.
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I barely every play in third-person, it's more immersive and rewarding I find. I didn't "refuse" to stop, I was simply going about my business, as per usual. Shouting "STOP" to someone I can't hear also isn't RP. I could shout "put your guns down" 1KM away, before shooting you in the head and I think you'd be posting an RDM report. I did not refuse to listen to you. In fact, you barely said anything and I stop shooting IMMEDIATELY once I realise you're not RDM scum.

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I wonder if the choice of words "I surrender" is better than the words "Don't shoot"?
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Not allowed to surrender willingly, it's in my contract ;)

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Well, we had people shouting, but as you see in the vid you cant even hear shots hitting your truck, so maybe up your volume ingame
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The fact is, inside that vehicle, external sounds are hard to hear, a la real life. You should be more wary of folks coming out of vehicles and make your presence known if you are going attempt things like this again. Otherwise more and more of you will die needlessly. 

Understandably, this may have been avoided at the checkpoint (which occasionally I make the effort to use since no police are ever manning it), though like many players the checkpoint serves merely as a small obstacle on my journeys and is more of a hassle to raise the barrier after every reset.

Maybe it should default to the upright position? Or maybe this police checkpoint should receive more attention... it's a little neglected at the moment.

 
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If you ''make your presence known'' what tends to happen is people just turn around and take another route to avoid being taxed.

 
we had to shoot tires since you jumped the checkpoint though! so we could not stop you like any normal car! + your in a hemmit Box so any attempt to talk you prob would not hear us very well

 
Maybe the general consensus of this situation should be..

GO THROUGH THE DAMN CHECKPOINT.

 
The reason why this checkpoint is barely used is because it is simply not finished/incomplete. On the west side, there should be an extra barrier.

 
So you hit a post after taking shots to your vehicle. Get out and open fire back then decide not to. Then you "clearly" do not shout back as you are switching between direct, side and vehicle chat. It would have been heard as a garbled mess. Looks like you panicked to be honest. I would have done the same if you had already opened fire back.

 
You shoot a man running towards you with his weapon lowered and then wonder why they fire back? Hm.

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I kind of hate how this has been posted also, directly to the forums, no communication with the players involved, just a straight up calling out of PLF saying that they don't role play...

Just seems really dumb IMO. 

 
I just checked your profile.
And you have some quotes there. 

"We're RPing, honest!" - PLF, before shooting you in the face.

I take that as 100% bs. Check the forums and you will find shit loads of movies were we RP and with recomended players.

If you DONT kill a man that try to talk to you, you might get away alive.. But this "do you wanna RP" is just BS.

You also mention "RDM" the only person that shot without saying shit here was you.. So rethink your post.
Tbh you shoud be warned to intentional try to damage our rep, becouse you failed to stop at the checkpoint.
You killed a man who held a checkpoint with his group, and expect not to get fierd uppon.....

 
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