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Permanent Ban Appeal - zenerunban

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zenerunban

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In-game Name

zener

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76561198172179287

Please provide a link to your previous denied appeal.

https://www.roleplay.co.uk/profile/40478-zener/
In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.

Was a long time ago, so i might miss something out, but i think i was banned for RDMing at an event, toxicity and racism. Again sorry if i missed anything.

What have you been upto in the last 6 months+ ?

I've been up to a wide range of things. Since i was banned, i started college, and for a long time (about 7 months) i quit Arma 3 completely. I got myself a part time job, so just been working, but i hadn't really played any games for a long time and decided to get back into it about 4 and a bit months ago, so i have been flying around various Altis life and modded servers. Been playing a lot of other games and just chilling really, not getting into games like i used to.

Why do you want to return ?

I want to return because before i got banned, i played here for about 3 years, and it was a big part of my time playing games, and I (due to A-levels and other upcoming commitments) aim to only be playing games a lot for another year / 10 months, so i would like to return and re-visit some old friends and also just reminisce and enjoy the game like i used to back when i played here. I Also want to return, because for a long time on here, I hope anyway, I was seen as somebody who was a good player for the community and kept himself inside the rules. However due to my actions, the opinions on me have probably, and rightly so, changed to a toxic little kid who just wanted to shoot people, and if given the chance i would like to change that.

Why should we unban you ?

So it has been just over a year since I was banned from this community and to be honest I never thought that I would be coming back to play here or given another chance, after what I did to get banned. However, having seen that you are wanting to give a lot of people a second chance, i thought i would possibly have a chance myself. But I am unlikely to get unbanned through the terms that you laid out, so i thought it would be best that i made an unban appeal.

I think that I should be unbanned, because although it is said a lot, i think i am a completely different person from what I was when I got banned. I think I have matured a lot and grown up (something which taking a break from gaming really did help) and am not the toxic little kid that I was back then. I hope that if given a second chance I could prove this. I have also (although I’m only mentioning this to try and show that I have changed, and not to strengthen my chances of getting unbanned) apologised to the people that I could remember abusing in private messages, and out of respect to them will keep the apologies private, but am not fussed if anybody wanted to share it. I think what I did to get banned was completely stupid and absolutely ridicously to say / do all because I had grown to dislike people / the server, and looking back don’t see how I thought doing something like that was a good idea.

I'm not going to use the old “it was the group of people” trick, but I do think that it is worth mentioning, that back then I was just a little kid, who was easily influenced into becoming toxic and having this “fragger mentality” that so many people do when they decide to get banned. However, I am not trying to suggest that these actions were not my own and I accept fully that i have full responsibility over what I did. Now I believe I am a lot more independant and not going to easily fall back into the old crowds or be influenced by others that play the server. Whilst on this note of blaming other people however, i think it is worth that I mention something I am sure that will be brought up. In a few peoples unban appeals, I have been named as “A toxic individual who forced people into doing things and become toxic”. I would just like to say that this is completely false, and something that people said just to try and get unbanned from the server, and this can be seen from multiple things. Firstly, all the people that said that, have since been banned for various reasons, whilst i was not on this server or even speaking to them, so clearly it is them as individuals that choose to do these things, and not the people around them. Secondly, if I really “hated this community and was toxic” like they said, why am I one of the only people to have not come back on the server on alt accounts and troll / rdm, or cause any more issues to this server? I think It’s because unlike some of them I accepted the fact that I messed up and was banned and didn't try and cause any more issues. So I would hope you can see they are talking rubbish when they say this stuff.

Finally during my entire time on this server (before I was 1.6ed) I only ever received one ban, which was when I was about 6 hours in arma 3 and didnt even know what I was doing, so this would almost be literally a second chance. But seriously, I think that I in that time proved that i knew how to play by the rules and can do so. So would like to return and do that if given the chance to come back.

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In your own words, please type why you think you were banned.

Was a long time ago, so i might miss something out, but i think i was banned for RDMing at an event, toxicity and racism. Again sorry if i missed anything.
There seems to be a level of detail missing here, if you're unsure what you've done, how can you hope to even make amends or apologise for those actions.

I think that I should be unbanned, because although it is said a lot, i think i am a completely different person from what I was when I got banned.
You're right it does get said a lot "I've grown up" "I've matured" "I'm a different person" 9/10 it's complete bollocks, I know you were a different person before you got banned, how can we be sure you want fall into this toxic mindset again.

I think It’s because unlike some of them I accepted the fact that I messed up and was banned and didn't try and cause any more issues. So I would hope you can see they are talking rubbish when they say this stuff.
Are you sure? You've stayed clear of every aspect of the community and not come on to troll?

And that's before we even begin to get into the disgusting things you've said

 
There seems to be a level of detail missing here, if you're unsure what you've done, how can you hope to even make amends or apologise for those actions.
Okay i will try and go into more detail, it was a long time ago and a lot has happened since then, so i will try and explain anything that i can remember doing,and if you can let me know if i miss anything that would be appreciated. So there was a server event, and me and a few other members / the majority of my gang decided we where going to try and get banned as we had "grown tired" of the community. We decided we where going to RDM an event that the players of the server had arranged. Me and i think selsig, RDMed the event (although admittedly  very poorly) and then when i got restrained by some admins, i started to hurl all kinds of insults and racist comments that i could think of towards them. However, this may seem strange and unusual to others, but at the time, i was just trying to say the most controversial / offensive things that i could come up with to offend the most people and get myself banned, as that is what i thought i wanted. 

You're right it does get said a lot "I've grown up" "I've matured" "I'm a different person" 9/10 it's complete bollocks, I know you were a different person before you got banned, how can we be sure you want fall into this toxic mindset again.
As you said yourself, I haven't always been toxic and dont see myself as being anymore. Its hard to prove this without being able to actually show you that i am not, but i will try and do so. In terms of following the crowd, i have become a lot more independent i would say, as when the majority other members of the gang i used to be apart of decided to go and buy cheats, i didn't as i knew that wasn't what i wanted to do. Also throughout my entire time on other servers, with playing with almost 100's of different people, i havent picked up one single ban for toxicity, and also haven't followed the crowd / trends like i used to. Like i said, it is hard to prove that i am a different person to what i used to be without actually being able to be on the server and show you, but if given the chance that is what i aim to do. Also I wouldn't be putting all this time into writing these comments / replies if i truely wasnt sorry and didnt want to get unbanned, as the person i was when i got banned, would never have wanted to appeal / come back.

Are you sure? You've stayed clear of every aspect of the community and not come on to troll?
This is something i am almost very sure about. Do not get me wrong, I have ban evaded on the team speak before, and even made some forum accounts. When i first got banned, I did come on the ts a few times, sometimes just to troll and sometimes just to talk to people that still played here. However, at no point over the past 10/11 months i would say, have i caused any issues via trolling or anything like that on this server. The only things I have done is make an alternate forum profile (can't find the link to it, think the name was like J Paul or something like that) however, i never posted on that account and its only purpose was for as i said before 

apologised to the people that I could remember abusing in private messages
I only have one alternate steam account, that admittedly i used to share with Kaane and absence? i think, but i only ever used it for CS:GO and havent had the log in details for it for a long time. It does have arma and I'm unsure but i presume they would have used it to troll on RPUK but if you can i encourage you to check the IP's of the logins from that account, as it wont match mine. 

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198303038786/

And that's before we even begin to get into the disgusting things you've said
Like i said above i know i made some disgusting and vile comments but I wouldn't say i actually meant most of the things i said. Im not trying to say i wasnt a toxic idiot, because i was, but i just mean i was trying to do the most stupid and horrible things i could think of to get banned. I was just a kid who thought those things would be funny to say and thought it would idk make me seem “cool” or somat stupid like that. I realise now and have done for a while that that is far from the truth and is just so stupid.

Im trying to be as open and honest with you as i can be, so hopefully that answers the questions. 

 

 
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This was a message you sent to Nalurah on teamspeak

<22:53:20> "josh": why have you not killed yourself you fag slag hope you get cancer retard nigger
Do you think someone like that should be in this community ?
 

 
Do you think someone like that should be in this community ?
Was this 100% me, because i really do not remember sending anything like that to nalurah. I do remember saying things to her in game and then also messaging her on steam, but i seriously, do not remember sending that message. I actually remember Dylan (not sure the name he was playing under at the time of the ban) sending that message to her. This probably just sounds like I am trying to pass on the blame here, but i will own up to what i said, and i said some horrible things, but i definitely will stand by the fact that i did not send that message to Nalurah.  

I do not think that there is a place for anything like that, not alone in this community but in anywhere at all. Genuinely the fact that somebody i have played with in the past, and the fact that i have said things nearing that, actually is disgusting to anyone let alone somebody i actually did once call a friend. 

Also i have a few months ago apologised to Nalurah for the things i did say to her. 

 
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Teamspeak ID and IP was you so 100% unless of course that night you was chucking your toys out the pram someone came around your house and took over your keyboard, however i think that's unlikely as you was already bashing it giggling like a girl!

With some rage in your voice you also shouted you was going to "shoot up a school" which was an odd comment, Good job no one took that seriously

 
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Teamspeak ID and IP was you so 100% unless of course that night you was chucking your toys out the pram someone came around your house and took over your keyboard, however i think that's unlikely as you was already bashing it giggling like a girl!
If it was definitely me then fair enough, but i genuinely do not remember something that like, but I'm not going to deny it, and regardless of if i actually said that or not, i said some stupid and horrible shit, so if it wasnt that it was probably something as bad as that. 

As i have said that stuff that i said, and the stuff that i did was absolutely petty, childish, stupid, idiotic and more. I cant say more then I messed up. I did some stupid shit and I'm sorry for that, i really am. Regardless of if i get unbanned or not, i at least want that to be known. 

 

With some rage in your voice you also shouted you was going to "shoot up a school" which was an odd comment 
Tbh there was that much shit coming out of my mouth i have absolutely no idea what i was saying, and there was probably a lot more odd comments. I said the most abusive and horrible stuff that i could think, somehow thinking that it would, like i said impress the people i was with or some shit? 

The only thing i can really say is I'm not the same person i was back then. Im not an idiot (in most senses) like i was back then. Ive already said, comments like that have no place anywhere let alone this community, and i still agree with that.

 
Your comment after all this was odd... it was "3 up Absence"

Did he mean that much to you ?... Sorry trying to process why you would act worse than a wound up hungry chimpanzee! over another boy

 
Your comment after all this was odd... it was "3 up Absence"

Did he mean that much to you ?... Sorry trying to process why you would act worse than a wound up hungry chimpanzee! over another boy
I don’t really get why I said this myself considering he wansn’t even banned. 

I think like some off the other stuff I said it was just another stupid comment that I thought would be funny and get a laugh but just made me look like an idiot. at The time I guess I thought it would just be a funny comment  and like a lot of shit I said, I didn’t really thing about the meaning or the issues behind what I was saying. 

I will admit at the time I did think they where my friends or whatever, and did Like them all, we played together for like 8 hours a day, but I don’t see why I did this and I was probably just following the crowd and saying what everyone else was saying.

 
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One last question.... Do you Roleplay as "Ian" often
I know know this looks bad on it’s own, however when given some context hopefully it won’t look as bad. 

I’m not sure how u do it tbh, but if u look at my past names on arma u can see, I regularly play under completely random names that’s I would describe as like very British names. Was kind of a running joke with the people I played with. I’ve had Rupert, Rob, Brad, Karen and other names like that. The people I play with have had like Keith Terry John, things like that. I one day decided to use Ian. I used it for a like a day before I got told to change it by a staff member of another community. Not sure u can check but I legit used the name once for like an hour. I didn’t intend for the name to be offensive to anyone and I promise you it had nothing to do with yourself or the server. Was just another name like the other ones I was using 

 
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I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but make no mistake this is a golden opportunity, if you manage to find yourself in the perms again for doing something quite as stupid as the act that has brought you here in the first place there will be no coming back from it. Your time here will be over, forever.

 
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