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MrChee

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We have had very little feedback about applications for this role after having applied a long time ago and the contact between community and staff seems to be a bit poor if i am honest. No formal warnings for wipes, when we only expect a map wipe we get BP wipe also. Not always a problem but it gets a bit confusing. 

Following on from this; i dont mean to offend but i have a bit of an issue with on of the choices of staff. The new admin that has been chosen [not Fuel] only has 13.1 hours on rust from what i can find evidence of. I really find it hard to believe someone with so little contact time with the game can be in a position to staff a server effectively. I honestly doubt this person has much knowledge of the games' dynamics, development or servers/command usage. I also find that the chosen person has a very limited activity in the rust forums, in a time when we should be really pushing it. 

I'm not angry because i wasn't chosen, i am just a bit confused as to the logic of the choice..? 

 
@Neo- This is probably something that you might want to deal with before it blows up into a massive.

Probably best to respond to this thread or lock it.

 
We have had very little feedback about applications for this role after having applied a long time ago and the contact between community and staff seems to be a bit poor if i am honest. No formal warnings for wipes, when we only expect a map wipe we get BP wipe also. Not always a problem but it gets a bit confusing. 

Following on from this; i dont mean to offend but i have a bit of an issue with on of the choices of staff. The new admin that has been chosen [not Fuel] only has 13.1 hours on rust from what i can find evidence of. I really find it hard to believe someone with so little contact time with the game can be in a position to staff a server effectively. I honestly doubt this person has much knowledge of the games' dynamics, development or servers/command usage. I also find that the chosen person has a very limited activity in the rust forums, in a time when we should be really pushing it. 

I'm not angry because i wasn't chosen, i am just a bit confused as to the logic of the choice..? 
I was waiting to see if anyone else had any issue before posting a reply.

I chose Kieron as one of the admins, it was nothing to do with how many hours he had on rust or his experience as an admin, I chose him for generally being the right kind of person, someone I know and actually listens and is willing to work, I did not know how inexperienced he was at the time, everyone is on a trial, if it does not work out, then we can choose another member to assist in running it.

If it turns out if any member of the team abuses anything or can not do the job they will be replaced myself included.

I hope that clears it up Mr Chee.

 
We have had very little feedback about applications for this role after having applied a long time ago and the contact between community and staff seems to be a bit poor if i am honest. No formal warnings for wipes, when we only expect a map wipe we get BP wipe also. Not always a problem but it gets a bit confusing. 

Following on from this; i dont mean to offend but i have a bit of an issue with on of the choices of staff. The new admin that has been chosen [not Fuel] only has 13.1 hours on rust from what i can find evidence of. I really find it hard to believe someone with so little contact time with the game can be in a position to staff a server effectively. I honestly doubt this person has much knowledge of the games' dynamics, development or servers/command usage. I also find that the chosen person has a very limited activity in the rust forums, in a time when we should be really pushing it. 

I'm not angry because i wasn't chosen, i am just a bit confused as to the logic of the choice..? 
I don't think I need to answer really, but non-the-less After reading some comments in here, Kieran Rhead has decided to step down....

I'll be frank, he was on a week trial, and now its gone because people can't be patient.

Fuel and Stoneman are both leads for the Rust Project,

Fuel is a very determined member of this community who dedicates so much more than time to what he works on, he's is the easy logical choice.

Stoneman, Aside from his amazing video's Stoneman has already been working on a rust community, but has taken up the helm of leading ours. He's already experienced in running popular modded and vanilla servers, along with his social experience in advertising and media content creation, There's nothing that can be faulted on this.

The rest of the apps are still being looked at, and with respect, the first apps we looked at so far were people we know, we need to create a ladder before people can climb it. Rust is a very sensitive area when it comes to administration, Everyone wants active admins, and everyone wants balance and equality...

There are servers out there where "staff" are not allowed to raid, purely because they're staff and it cuases more issues than its worth....

The leads haven't even got most of these applications yet, but thank's very much in already pushing one member of the team out because you find it "confusing"

No formal warnings for wipes, when we only expect a map wipe we get BP wipe also.
Originally, we were following a "forced wipe only" policy, however in order to keep things fresh and fun, the leads are working on ideas about keeping retention of players, most people seem to get raided and leave, they quit, they're done....

In regards to the BP wipe, the XP System was expected at the begining of the month.... it never came and instead they only forced a partial wipe...

The Official Team run Server should be beginning on Thursday, which, rumors one again state, should be the XP System.

I feel ashamed as management I haven't been able to stay on top of this band-wagon. I've been working endlessly on other things regarding Altis, being active ingame, and dealing with the endless enquiries I receive over teamspeak..... this is on top of trying to keep a social life....

With Stoneman and Fuel in place, the only thing I need to do is keep them happy, and they're going to be working effectively to keep you happy.

I'm going to thank Kieran for trying to take up the reigns of moderating the server, he's now experienced first hand how "cut throat" being staff can be sometimes.

 
I think its very sad that Kieran has stepped down from Rust Staff. Would have been nice to see him have his whole week to prove he has got what it takes to stay in position. 

Good luck too Stoneman and hopefully he can do an amazing job with Fuel. 

 
This is a very sad situation, not only for pressuring Kieran to step down just after achieving the position, but this is not the type of thing I would expect from an Adult Community. You don't have to be happy with the choice, like others said he was on a week trial to see how he did. If you really didn't like him, the forums was not the place for this, speaking privately to the lead (Fuel) would have been appropriate. You should be ashamed of yourself for making this happen.

 
I rarely come into this section of the forums as I'm not really into Rust personally, but after reading this...

Kieran... Get back onto your trial and prove those that doubt you wrong! :)

Good luck with the running and moderating of the rust servers :)

 
I rarely come into this section of the forums as I'm not really into Rust personally, but after reading this...

Kieran... Get back onto your trial and prove those that doubt you wrong! :)

Good luck with the running and moderating of the rust servers :)
I agree @SPC Kieran Rhead people doubted me when I first joined Member Support and a lot of people wasn't happy about it.. Prove them wrong. ❤️

 
Thanks for the reply everyone, and for keeping it civil in such an emotive topic.

To Neo, I understand and agree with all the points you made and especially appreciate how time consuming being lead staff is, I think we all appreciate the time you put in for sure. I agree that Fuel is a good choice to lead staff the server, he has lots of experience with many aspects of rust and is already proven to be fair in this community and in this game. Choosing the 'correct' settings for the community and the way the admins interface in rust is a hell of a job for sure, I appreciate it will take a bit of time!

Willis King, it is a sad situation for sure but I disagree with you. Firstly, I dont like him nor dislike him, I hardly know him. My argument was purely based on forum activity and rust presence/experience which I tried to make very clear at the top. The forums are an open platform for opinion and as long as nobody is offensive I think it is a completely adult way to approach things and it importantly allows the staff to get a judge of common opinions. I am not ashamed of myself for this as it is a huge role to have and if it is for the best of the community, a community which we want to be the best, then criticism is a natural part of achieving this. 

I Look forward to Thursday's wipe and the new team being on board, good luck Stoneman!! May the XP system come in soon, although I think it highly unlikely for June from the state of the pre release :(


 
This is a very sad situation, not only for pressuring Kieran to step down just after achieving the position, but this is not the type of thing I would expect from an Adult Community. You don't have to be happy with the choice, like others said he was on a week trial to see how he did. If you really didn't like him, the forums was not the place for this, speaking privately to the lead (Fuel) would have been appropriate. You should be ashamed of yourself for making this happen.
He left on his own will, maybe he left because of what was said on this topic but if he is leaving due comments of people, that is a bit sad. If me or any of the management left due bad or harsh comments, we wouldn't be here. He could prove everyone wrong, but he didn't want to.

We have had very little feedback about applications for this role after having applied a long time ago and the contact between community and staff seems to be a bit poor if i am honest. No formal warnings for wipes, when we only expect a map wipe we get BP wipe also. Not always a problem but it gets a bit confusing. 

Following on from this; i dont mean to offend but i have a bit of an issue with on of the choices of staff. The new admin that has been chosen [not Fuel] only has 13.1 hours on rust from what i can find evidence of. I really find it hard to believe someone with so little contact time with the game can be in a position to staff a server effectively. I honestly doubt this person has much knowledge of the games' dynamics, development or servers/command usage. I also find that the chosen person has a very limited activity in the rust forums, in a time when we should be really pushing it. 

I'm not angry because i wasn't chosen, i am just a bit confused as to the logic of the choice..? 
The only thing i see wrong with this was the "unannouced wipe", but don't you have more people on than before @MrChee?

I believe this won't happen every again without notice, and i do believe i said the main launch would be on this Thursday.

Also, there's 2 leads, but there will be more spots for the Rust staff so don't loose hope and if we picked these leads, it's because we think it will work.

 
Kieran has stepped down from the rust moderator position, possibly due to this thread, he has left just leave it at that.

The unannounced restart was done as the server was literally empty a max of 2 people playing at a time, now at peak times their is 10 - 12 average its just to get some life back into it that is all, the people that was online at the time was all asked if they mind if we reset it, they all seemed happy.

@Stoneman and myself are currently working on lots of stuff for Thursdays release, I do not want to release any info yet as it may change.

I will say this what we are currently thinking is a Bi-weekly map reset and only reset BP/XP when it is forced.

The rest will all be announced in a day or so.

Happy Rusting, I will see you out there.

 
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Adster RPing and not killing everything that moves, that can't be right...
Wait, people are RP'ing again in Rust?

But all in all I'm happy with the two choices for staff leads @Fuel @StonemanHope you guys can turn rust into something more than killing and raiding.

See ya at the weekend. 

 
I agree @SPC Kieran Rhead people doubted me when I first joined Member Support and a lot of people wasn't happy about it.. Prove them wrong. 
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I'm not happy with you being Tier 3 as you're trying to take my my ban hammer crown (just banter)!

In all seriousness @SPC Kieran RheadI would suggest trying to get back on trial, as like Fetty he proved people wrong and became one of the best members of the Support Team. 

 
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