@Paint I can see your points however I feel like with recent changes to auto-shops, supplies etc
We have no choice but to grind for roleplay.
I thank you for actually coming forward as yourself personally replying to this, it means a lot.
In regard to this, what are you referring to as recently? We haven't removed anything that hasn't been replaced (Without very good reason).
Trucking was recently removed the Ron Fuel, unless time has taken the toll onto me and it's been a month.
Trucking wasn't "Taken away" as we strive for a player run economy we have tried to push it in that direction by making it player run jobs, where the players decide the pay. If the pay is bad, don't do them, after a while they will be forced to increase their prices.
It was never taken away I agree, but it's been "nerfed" if you will to the point where people are asking for £5 for a delivery to be made.
This seems like it needs to be put in a bug report, as if there are issues with jobs making them unusable we need to know exactly what they are so we can fix them.
Of course I really do believe this would've been better as a bug report, my fault for not looking through myself, I will make a bug report.
Personally, all I see here is that trucking was good because it payed well, although the RP provided was limited as it was drive here, drive here (For most people. ANYONE Can make RP from a job, although a lot of these jobs being taken were just to grind money) (The point im trying to make here is, im not saying NO ONE RPed doing this job, a good amount of people did although, ALOT were just doing it to make money/grind).
I will get into the money/grind thing at the other quote, I get the RP side of things on why this could've affected the server.
Although this isn't strictly true, even if it was, the idea here is to RP, to build up your character story rather than just grind for money...
A lot of the server is grind, real life is grind for money, I mean yeah we can be creative and make our own businesses or advertise a service like Auto-Exotics however business plans are closed for now as been told by staff, I really do feel like the prices of everything of course we need to grind, we have autocare shops that are really expensive, we have shops that are really expensive, and also gas stations can be so expensive that you need to go to another one across the town to get a cheaper price.
The economy in my opinion and some others is ruined and how are we meant to progress our characters when the economy is really bad, I mean car shop owners are profiting a lot off of this as well, making millions so they don't have to worry about a thing.
We really don't want to be selling drugs 100% of the time just so we can afford one car, or one house, we wanna be able to widen our horizons and I think fuel trucking the way it was, was amazing we can initiate RP more if that's what you want us to do, I mean I used to sit at the trucking depot for AGES talking about life and trucking it's amazing.
But main thing I am trying to get at here the server is a grind for stuff, you can't sit there and talk and grow your character without grinding, otherwise you'd basically starve to death in my opinion.
We are constantly looking and reviewing if our changes are having a positive or negative effect on the server. Although personally I think the changes to trucking will benefit the server overall.
In my opinion I think it ruined the economy a lot, I mean as a daily server player and from feedback from others who also play on the server daily, it's not a target audience change that we were excited for.
Developing isn't an easy job heck I couldn't do it if you put a coding program in front of me and I understand that, as a player base, as the servers audience we really want something more to do other than sell jobs, if mechanic jobs get fixed that'd be awesome I will put up a bug report of that for sure, but I/we really want something other than selling drugs to make a lot of money, not all of us sit around growing we like to grind for things so we can grow as people.
There are new things being worked on all the time, but you have to appreciate that not all the updates will A, be seen by players (Back end/server efficiency changes) or B, be in your interest (Police changes or adding other illegal activities). Obviously the difficult thing for us as developers is attempting to balance peoples expectations, their wants and also the server meta in all of that. If you really take a step back and re-read your message do you truly see it as objective and not at all in an attacking sort of sense? As the main content of this suggestion is to re-add trucking as there is no good way to make money otherwise, the rest of this suggestion just feels like a bang to the devs. While some points raised are good, this is not the place to raise them, for example the bugs need to be put into reports. At the end of the day everyone wants different things, some people want more bank robberies some want more civ jobs, which then makes our lives more difficult deciding which to work on first and prioritise.
I can completely understand your point of view as a developer and how you want to balance things out, as someone who has taken business studies, I understand how things work behind the scene, I read it as a suggestion, again with text it sometimes is hard to tell if it's an attack, I would never want anyone to feel attacked by my points made, I think I tried to get the point across without sugar coating it.
I would like to apologise if I did seem to be bashing you guys I mean you do a lot for the server and you help in the best ways possible, I would never purposely bash the devs because of what they do and we're all human at the end of the day.
I only raised this because a lot of us in city had a conversation and thought it would be nice to raise this as a suggestion, and yes I will put the bug reports into bug reports section I just thought they'd be mentioned already which is on me I do apologise for not doing that research.
I know it's hard to please everybody, it is a very hard subject, however I wanted to raise this as a suggestion from people I have spoken with.
And yeah, this doesn't help anyone.
Yeah it don't, I rolled my eyes when I saw it.
Although I do often consult with other devs before posting my messages, this post is of MY views of this suggestion and due to people raising that they think the devs do not respond enough to suggestions I thought I would reply to this one to raise some points that I had while reading it. At the end of the day everyone here volunteers their time here for free for their own enjoyment. I really do hope you can see some of my points and take them onboard, Im in no way going at you for the way you may feel and it may be that you didn't realise alot of the points I have raised, but again, thats why I have made this post.
I would like to thank you for reaching out into this suggestion, being upfront is always a good way to resolve something and I am thankful that you decided to replied on your own accord, please know I would never purposefully bash you or any other staff team member.
I understand fully that you guys dev for free and I think I can say for all of us that you do that job well, I have taken your points on board and I hope my replies have cleared things up.
Thank you for taken time to write all of this I have read it to my best of abilities