Metagaming: INS Bizby, SGT Mental, PCSO Alex, PCSO Phillip J. Fry, PCSO Robin, RunningSheep. (Rejected - Weak evidence)

[Ben_Banned]

THIS IS A REPORT NOT A POLICE COMPLAINT.​

 
 
Name of the person you are reporting (in-game name): INS Bizby, SGT Mental, PCSO Alex, PCSO Phillip J. Fry, PCSO Robin, RunningSheep.
 
Time & Date this happened: 7:10PM 12/01/2015
 
Description of what happened:TI were doing a bankjob, and had a hostage held HERE for around 40 minutes, in the middle of the bankjob this little warehouse got raided by cops after we haad taken GPS and Comms over 1 hour ago.
 
List of events:
Timeframe Unknown: TI Crispy and TI Benji kidnap first hostage Keiran Powellio
Timeframe Unknown: TI Crispy and TI Benji kidnap second hostage Creator Chris.
Timeframe Unknown: TI Andrej and TI Benji move Keiran Powellio to the location on THIS MAP
Time 7:10pm This building was raided by the cops mentioned above, after the communications were taken from the officer over 1 hour ago.
 
There was NO way at all that they could have knew the hostages were moved to this location without meta gaming, the hostage were being held at TI base without any police being the the area (red zone) and there was no way the hostage could have been able to give their location without meta gaming however I am not blaming the hostages here, the fact that we were "found by the police hellcat" which is what they claim is them admitting to meta gaming themselves because there is no way the hostages could have been followed to the TI base originally and no way the hellcat could have knew we were transporting them.
 
Have you tried to resolve with the player before posting?: Yes, they claimed we were followed as stated above.
  
Please post video evidence/screenshots here:
 
Video Evidence to be uploaded soon.
 
 
Screenshot : Keiran Powellio held 

Screenshot : I received from an anonymous member of the Police

 
Video:
 

 

[BratJaggesVlnd]

Well, I was the hellcat co-pilot. Okay, what we knew when this operation started was that the hostage takers were moving into the red zone with the hostage, as the PCSO with the two hostages were let go. We then got permission to go into red zone with a hellcat, which me and Ross did. We then found a military compound were three armed men were holding two unarmed people hostage. We then assumed this were the officers taken. After restart we got back into position. We then saw one hostage die, after that TI Charelie Brown fell off the tower and died too.

Then we saw one hostage return in a Hummingbird. Then we watched you take the hostages in a Hummingbird and a Sports Hatchback leaving. We followed the Hummingbird, and were very confused since you left one hostage taker and one officer at the location, after having flipped the hummingbird and taken off and landing again.

This is how we knew where you were, we used the hellcat in an extremely efficient way, no metagaming involved.

Have a nice day!

SGT Big "Brat" Johnson, Kavala Constabulary

 

[Crispy]

When I spoke to one of the hostages pretty much after it was over he told me that they used a submarine to see him and one of the other gang members spoke to someone else and was told that a hellcat follow him?

That's quite weird.

@ The post above me, how could you know that we were going into the redzone, by the time that hellcat arrived you had lost trace of us. Something must have happened that you decided to especially look at TI base?

 

[unconnected]

I don't want to see anyone else from [TI] posting in this thread, this is Ben's report, it's between him and the police.

 

[Ben_Banned]

Well, I was the hellcat co-pilot. Okay, what we knew when this operation started was that the hostage takers were moving into the red zone with the hostage, as the PCSO with the two hostages were let go. We then got permission to go into red zone with a hellcat, which me and Ross did. We then found a military compound were three armed men were holding two unarmed people hostage. We then assumed this were the officers taken. After restart we got back into position. We then saw one hostage die, after that TI Charelie Brown fell off the tower and died too.

Then we saw one hostage return in a Hummingbird. Then we watched you take the hostages in a Hummingbird and a Sports Hatchback leaving. We followed the Hummingbird, and were very confused since you left one hostage taker and one officer at the location, after having flipped the hummingbird and taken off and landing again.

This is how we knew where you were, we used the hellcat in an extremely efficient way, no metagaming involved.

Have a nice day!

SGT Big "Brat" Johnson, Kavala Constabulary

 

[BratJaggesVlnd]

When I spoke to one of the hostages pretty much after it was over he told me that they used a submarine to see him and one of the other gang members spoke to someone else and was told that a hellcat follow him?

That's quite weird.

@ The post above me, how could you know that we were going into the redzone, by the time that hellcat arrived you had lost trace of us. Something must have happened that you decided to especially look at TI base?

Well I dont think the hostages knew that much about the situation, sicne they were muted and taken hostages. Also, we did at one point have a submarine closing in on the red zone before you left. But the Hellcat was what we used to find you and keep track of you. 

 

[bizby]

Firstly, one of the police officers you had taken hostage had 2 pcso's as their partner, I believe. They reported that you went in the direction of the red zone. A hellcat was then sent to search the eastern part of the map, and you were picked up on thermals along with the hostages. the hellcat then followed you to the location said above and we move in.


 

 

[bizby]

Also, lets not forget Crispy went into Athira HQ knocked out an officer and ziptied him...

 

[Andrej]

Metagame or not,you guys just ruined all of your ways to rescue your hostages in the future unless you have an armed submarine.

Cheers

 

[BratJaggesVlnd]

If this is the level of the discussion on here, I am out. And since you are now antagonising me, please provide any evidence that actual metagame was involved or this will be rejected I am sure.

Also, if we followe the hexagons, how do I know how Charlie Brown died and that there was a Hummingbird and hatchback sports leaving? 

 

[Crispy]

Also, lets not forget Crispy went into Athira HQ knocked out an officer and ziptied him...

This was already discussed with admins. 

 

[PC Alex F]

(disclaimer I am PCSO Alex F and have nothing to do with this)

 

[Ben_Banned]

If this is the level of the discussion on here, I am out. And since you are now antagonising me, please provide any evidence that actual metagame was involved or this will be rejected I am sure.

Also, if we followe the hexagons, how do I know how Charlie Brown died and that there was a Hummingbird and hatchback sports leaving? 

I have my proof, why don't you provide proof that you followed us in a hellcat the entire time and ill drop this report.

 

[BratJaggesVlnd]

I have my proof, why don't you provide proof that you followed us in a hellcat the entire time and ill drop this report.

You have no proof of metagaming what so ever? A 30 sec video and a couple of screenshots of officers moving in on a target proves nothing. Even if metagaming was happening that is not proof. And no, I didn't record us flying around in the Hellcat for two hours. I don't actually record every second of my gameplay, but can you please explain to me how I know everything that happened? Please!

 

[Jamie]

Ok since i was present during this whole thing i would like to say what happened. PC Runningsheep comes in saying Kieran has been taken hostage 2. we all move to take action we did not at one time follow a hexagon there was a GPS left on Kieran up until he was at the TI base. we spoke to a officer that was with Chris another officer who was taken hostage they confirmed you guys headed into the readzone we had a hellcat up and around 13 people at NPAS HQ waiting by this time Hellcat checked all Gang bases to be sure because we didn't know the situation concerning if the GPS had been dropped or not if was bugged and he dropped it or not because we could see him on the map still we decided not to work with that so we scanned the whole area with the hell cat. found heat signatures inside the TI base we also saw one man die fell of the tower or something we watched that in the hellcat by this time MPU and NPAS were deployed. MPU arrived about half way to dock near the TI base when our Hellcat informed us that you guys were on the move a hatchback sport and a humming bird i think + a grounded Hellcat the Hellcat flew over us in the boats and our Hellcat chased this is were we came to find you guys at the location far north on the island we had units land in a heli about 1k away. We never once meta gamed we was all in one channel if someone meta games or does anything bad concerning the rules im sure they will be faced with disciplinary actions.

 

[Ben_Banned]

You have no proof of metagaming what so ever? A 30 sec video and a couple of screenshots of officers moving in on a target proves nothing. Even if metagaming was happening that is not proof. And no, I didn't record us flying around in the Hellcat for two hours. I don't actually record every second of my gameplay, but can you please explain to me how I know everything that happened? Please!

Well you're in the thread calling the odds so my guess is you do know everything that happened, I thought the idea of this forum was for the people with evidence and the people that are being reported to discuss the report, as far as I know you are neither. 

 

[BratJaggesVlnd]

Well you're in the thread calling the odds so my guess is you do know everything that happened, I thought the idea of this forum was for the people with evidence and the people that are being reported to discuss the report, as far as I know you are neither. 

Well I was a part of the hostage op, and the one who directed all the people being reported here, so in actuality you are reporting me.

 

[Ciaran]

Well, now this thread has lost all of its seriousness...

 

[noddy]

Me flying the MH-9, if you're gonna report them you might as well add me to the report, i dropped them in with the mh-9 after brat informed me that you had been left there alone, and that the heli left with the other hostage, so i dropped strike team 1 into position whilst brat continued persuing from a distance. (Protip, it's not hard to see a thermal target if it is in the air) of which brat co piloting the I-99 would have been able to quite literally see you from a mile away. and we were both following you. As soon as we had worked out a position you were in, i took off from npas heading to the east redzone to tactically drop in the troops, however brat noticed you spinning up,, so i followed from the east up north, with brat still watching you, i took a wide berth incase you came back, and briefly hovered above the cocain field, i assume the man in the red offroad that was there can vouch for it because i think he poo'd a little seeing 8 fully armed police flying low in a helicopter. There was no metagaming involved, you were followed the entire way. Whilst on my way back after dropping in team 1, i picked up team 2 who had disembarked from the submarines, and moved those 8 to the bank just as the first message saying if any pollice arrived the hostage would be shot. We timed both actions so that the hostage would not be executed , however we were a little too late with the bank op to turn back, so i headed back to hostage position to assist. Team 1 could not approach while you were aiming at the hostage, so i came over and buzzed you in the helicopter to mask the sound of the door opening. I have no proof, nor do i have a reason to lie. There were 17 cops in the channel at the time, so i am hoping at least one of them has a recording proving my point.