Tommo
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Brinks
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Check task manager to see if your ram is actually running that speed. 2133 is JEDEC speed for DDR4 (speed wih XMP disabled).
If XMP is enabled.
What motherboard do you have?
What CPU cooler do you have?
Download HWinfo and Cinebench then run a single core test with the sensors tab of HWinfo open and provide me with the screenshots of the telemetry as well as the active clock speeds.
Also Fullscreen Exclusive is the best option for the smoothest gameplay.
If XMP is enabled.
What motherboard do you have?
What CPU cooler do you have?
Download HWinfo and Cinebench then run a single core test with the sensors tab of HWinfo open and provide me with the screenshots of the telemetry as well as the active clock speeds.
Also Fullscreen Exclusive is the best option for the smoothest gameplay.
Brinks
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@Tommo
XMP Is disabled.
Also you have a single 32gb stick which is heavily nerfing your performance here.
For the best performance a dual rank ram configuration is required this can be achieved with either 4x8gb sticks or 2x16gb.
typically 2x16gb is better for achieving the lowest latencys possible when tuning ram which i assume you won't be doing, So your decision will essentially boil down to the configuration of your motherboard and whats most cost effective. I recommend you buy some teamgroup 3200 c14.
Your effective cpu clock seems to be low too.
I assume you mean your motherboard is a ASRock B560M Pro4, This isn't the best motherboard to pair with a 11600k but it seems like it has a decent enough power phase so you might be able to increase the power limits to maximize cpu performace as long as it doesn't thermally throttle. (only if the motherboard has this feature)
Usually you want a Z motherboard with unlocked (K) CPU's to get the most out of them.
XMP Is disabled.
Also you have a single 32gb stick which is heavily nerfing your performance here.
For the best performance a dual rank ram configuration is required this can be achieved with either 4x8gb sticks or 2x16gb.
typically 2x16gb is better for achieving the lowest latencys possible when tuning ram which i assume you won't be doing, So your decision will essentially boil down to the configuration of your motherboard and whats most cost effective. I recommend you buy some teamgroup 3200 c14.
Your effective cpu clock seems to be low too.
I assume you mean your motherboard is a ASRock B560M Pro4, This isn't the best motherboard to pair with a 11600k but it seems like it has a decent enough power phase so you might be able to increase the power limits to maximize cpu performace as long as it doesn't thermally throttle. (only if the motherboard has this feature)
Usually you want a Z motherboard with unlocked (K) CPU's to get the most out of them.
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Your FPS is low to a point that doesn't suggest to me your memory nor CPU clock speed would be the main cause here.
Change your "soft shadows" to NVIDIA PCSS, first.
Secondly, turn down Extended Distance Scaling in the advanced graphics options. This way, we can eliminate some variables.
Change your "soft shadows" to NVIDIA PCSS, first.
Secondly, turn down Extended Distance Scaling in the advanced graphics options. This way, we can eliminate some variables.
Brinks
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@Tommo
Whatever is most cost effective for you, Just be mindful. Some of the older DDR4 can be quad rank with 2x32gb If my memory serves me correctly. This can also slightly hinder performance.
On top of that ram is best bought in a kit, Even if you buy seperate sticks from the same manufacturer with the same primary timings, the secondary timing could be different causing your system to not boot (would require manual tuning and lots of testing).
At this point any Z490/Z590 you can find for a decent price will serve you well so you can't really go wrong.
The telemetry doesn't lie...
2133hmz single rank is as bad as ddr4 performance can be. I had a ddr3 kit tuned to 2400mhz with a 4770k in 2014!
You're cpu is is averaging 4.2ghz which in it's self isn't to bad, However it's dipping down well below that to 2.7ghz.
You're maximum clock speed was nearly 4.8ghz at 1.490v producing 74 degrees... Maybe you motherboards throttle limit is set to 75 degrees and encroaching this temprature reduces voltage=clockspeed to cool down.
Don't forget that cpu bound games are very much so ram bound games(latency). This is why amd's X3D chips are so good... Also as a side note when your cpu's work rate is reduced this hinders the amount of information the gpu can deliver.
Whatever is most cost effective for you, Just be mindful. Some of the older DDR4 can be quad rank with 2x32gb If my memory serves me correctly. This can also slightly hinder performance.
On top of that ram is best bought in a kit, Even if you buy seperate sticks from the same manufacturer with the same primary timings, the secondary timing could be different causing your system to not boot (would require manual tuning and lots of testing).
At this point any Z490/Z590 you can find for a decent price will serve you well so you can't really go wrong.
The telemetry doesn't lie...
2133hmz single rank is as bad as ddr4 performance can be. I had a ddr3 kit tuned to 2400mhz with a 4770k in 2014!
You're cpu is is averaging 4.2ghz which in it's self isn't to bad, However it's dipping down well below that to 2.7ghz.
You're maximum clock speed was nearly 4.8ghz at 1.490v producing 74 degrees... Maybe you motherboards throttle limit is set to 75 degrees and encroaching this temprature reduces voltage=clockspeed to cool down.
Don't forget that cpu bound games are very much so ram bound games(latency). This is why amd's X3D chips are so good... Also as a side note when your cpu's work rate is reduced this hinders the amount of information the gpu can deliver.
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Brinks
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@Tommo
3DMark is the best software you can use, It's heavily logged and there will be multiple scores from people with the same cpu/gpu so will give you a rough idea of whats achievable for your machine.
I just found your score on there website and looked at the detailed log.
Something looks wrong,
Your score is the lowest on the list with a CPU score of 7369... Closer to 10000 should realistically be achievable for you with a good motherboard and cooler. I'm also seeing that it thinks your clock speed can go up to 6ghz which makes no sense because this chips max out around 5.2ghz if you're very lucky, this could just be weird "glitch" but it's still worth going into the bios to investigate.
You don't need a new CPU, You just need to improve the CPU you already have.
Ram is gonna be a starting point (better ram=higher CPU score). They go hand in hand so always max out your ram, Stay away from those corsair kits.
Buy ram with the tightest timings, Mhz is not the important figure with ram... E.g 3600Mhz kits can easily be beaten by 3200mhz kits if the timings are better..(lower timings=lower latency)
1 ram stick (single channel) is 20% slower then 2 sticks (dual channel). dual rank (2x16gb) is also up to 15% on top of that.
So you need to buy 2x16gb 3600mhz c14 (c14 being cas latency=most important value)
3DMark is the best software you can use, It's heavily logged and there will be multiple scores from people with the same cpu/gpu so will give you a rough idea of whats achievable for your machine.
I just found your score on there website and looked at the detailed log.
Something looks wrong,
Your score is the lowest on the list with a CPU score of 7369... Closer to 10000 should realistically be achievable for you with a good motherboard and cooler. I'm also seeing that it thinks your clock speed can go up to 6ghz which makes no sense because this chips max out around 5.2ghz if you're very lucky, this could just be weird "glitch" but it's still worth going into the bios to investigate.
You don't need a new CPU, You just need to improve the CPU you already have.
Ram is gonna be a starting point (better ram=higher CPU score). They go hand in hand so always max out your ram, Stay away from those corsair kits.
Buy ram with the tightest timings, Mhz is not the important figure with ram... E.g 3600Mhz kits can easily be beaten by 3200mhz kits if the timings are better..(lower timings=lower latency)
1 ram stick (single channel) is 20% slower then 2 sticks (dual channel). dual rank (2x16gb) is also up to 15% on top of that.
So you need to buy 2x16gb 3600mhz c14 (c14 being cas latency=most important value)
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Brinks
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@Tommo
You're motherboard doesn't support overclocking, Would more so be to ensure the settings are correct.
At this point i think your best option would to find a cheap ram kit second hand on ebay and call it a day.
Makes no sense buying a motherboard AND ram for the cpu you already have unless you can get em for a really good price, If you were to go through the trouble of replacing those parts it makes sense to just upgrade to a ddr5 platform
You're motherboard doesn't support overclocking, Would more so be to ensure the settings are correct.
At this point i think your best option would to find a cheap ram kit second hand on ebay and call it a day.
Makes no sense buying a motherboard AND ram for the cpu you already have unless you can get em for a really good price, If you were to go through the trouble of replacing those parts it makes sense to just upgrade to a ddr5 platform
Brinks
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@Tommo
Thats not a bad choosing but you can sweeten it up. Go for a KF CPU, F means there's no intergrated graphics so you can make a saving there.
14600kf is the one to go for. It goes blow for blow with 13700k and is £100 cheaper
Corsair in DDR5 can be very good, But not at cas 36 like that kit. 6000 cas 30 is goated.
Thats not a bad choosing but you can sweeten it up. Go for a KF CPU, F means there's no intergrated graphics so you can make a saving there.
14600kf is the one to go for. It goes blow for blow with 13700k and is £100 cheaper
Corsair in DDR5 can be very good, But not at cas 36 like that kit. 6000 cas 30 is goated.