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Lets clearify the rules at the process plants

We had alot of dicussion about this and we would really like this to be clear for everyone.

My POV is that if they cops wanna come to the process plants, they can in no way expect not be shot at, ON SIGHT. We are doing illegal activities that we know will get us prison time, and we are not gonna be so nice to just ask them to leave. 

Could we get a more united stand point on this, at this areas, rebels will shoot them on sight as they are interfering with our operations. It would be plenty stupid of me to start talking with them first, giving away my position. 

I feel cops could be shot without warning at process plants, and it would be plenty RP, as the location is whats determening my actions.

What you think?

 
I agree.

I have also been told that if police come to processing plant we got to give up and surrender and not fire upon them.

The Police have to EXPECT to be shot at if they are approaching a process plant with rebels in it processing drugs.

In a Role play the rebels wouldn't just roll over and let the police scratch their belly.

 
To my knowledge if you are involved in a crime and the police are coming at you that allows for a gunfight. Whoever told you that you have to surrender is completely wrong.

 
That's what I thought so but for the last 2 days I've heard this a couple times now.

Rumour is coming from somewhere that's why we are trying to get confirmation on what the deal is.

 
If the police have given you clear comms asking for you to submit for an arrest, then this will engage the role play and from there you can chose to either submit yourself, engage in a gunfight or simply run away and evade arrest.

 
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I get that, but I disagree. Let me paint a scenario :

I have 2 trucks parked at the plant and doin my buisness. 

I hear a chopper and see a police chopper landing up the hill

I run up by the rocks and hide and see one cop come storming down the hill towards my truck, with this rifle out.

Now, for this not be an RDM kill, I should actually run down, from my hiding spot, and engage the cop in a chat and see what his intent is, I mean he might just wanna have a quick chat with a person at the drug  process plant??

Or do I take him out once he gets closer to my trucks?

I took him out, he had his rifle out, clearly expecting/ready for a gun fight, I just had the advantage of seeing him in advance so I could hide. Why would I throw that advantage out the window just so he could prepare and hide himself, now making this fight alot harder for me win?

Come running down unarmed and I wouldnt shoot, but if you have your rifle out, you have just as much time to shoot me and I do you if I show myself just to see if he wants to arrest me or not? Especially since he had one other guy back behind a rock sniping, these guys were clearly ready for a gun fight. But they considered me RDMing when I shot the cop on sight when he got close to my trucks.

 
Surely by the mere presence of the police arriving at a drug processing plant or field has already initiated a form of role play . They are coming to arrest and know that there are most probably armed assailants inside . If the police were shot at without warning to me this too would be acceptable role play as to as if an armed rebel or so forth raises his gun at a officer then i would expect the officer to shoot. Surely the roleplay question should not be 'well the police are here we have to surrender' but that the police should expect to be shoot at or come in force to make a stand off situation that would result in forced roleplay. just my opinion

 
At the end of the day there is only one reason for us to be at the processing plant and by no means am I going to roll over and ask the police what they want when it's clear as day their intentions. You should not have to engage in comms as they know by going there people will be armed and will fight back.

I believe that the moment we see police coming to the processing that engaged the RP, they are clearly planning on trying to arrest or kill us as we are armed and have enough drugs for prison time.

This is can also be compared to a robbing, imagine robbing someone in the street and the police turn up, would firing at them be considered RDM, no it wouldn't so why is this considered RDM as it is the same story.

 
To my knowledge if you are involved in a crime and the police are coming at you that allows for a gunfight. Whoever told you that you have to surrender is completely wrong.
For once Price I agree with you, if you are in the middle of a crime you should have rights to fire at police because you fear for your life as they may kill you or put you in jail.

 
My PERSONAL (but not yet-official) view is that yes, engagements within the white circle areas on the map (or nearby, clearly as part of the operations going on at drug-processing or drug-gathering areas) are technically RPed simply by being there.

Obviously, commonsense applies - if 15 cops descend out of a heli and there are just you and your kid brother schlepping snort-bags to and from the processor, you'd be an asshole if you engaged in a firefight, because you'll die, most of the time.

Similarly, if there are a few of you engaged in drug-work, and one or two noob cops decide to roll up and try to bounce you, the likelihood is that they will be paté fairly quickly, if gunfire ensues.

However, this is where the SCOPE for RP comes in, and you'd still do well to think about it before simply loosing off the safety catch and hitting rat-a-tat-tat mode. IF - in either of those above scenarios - you are able to BLUFF your way into making the other party stand down (because you've said you have them covered by a sniper on the hill, or got a hostage in the barn, or whatever), then how much more spectacular and brilliant will you feel if you manage to turn the odds around? The two noob cops who bring home an entire squad of druggies because they lied about backup, are destined for promotion. Similarly, the two wannabe cartel boys who evaded, knocked-out, killed or robbed five cops because they flanked them during a bluff-and-stall tactic, will feel like veritable gods.

So, personally, I would say that at these areas - clearly defined as being within a half-mile or so of the white circles - there's no REQUIREMENT to RP, but obviously, you're brilliant if you do, and even more brilliant if you go on to win the encounter.

I will discuss this with Wilco and KillerRabbit in due course, so please don't take this as a change in RULES, just yet. But it's clear what side of the fence I'm on, at least. Drug-spots are DANGEROUS PLACES. Tea and crumpets are not even on the table, let alone a serious option.

 
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I agree!

We only engaged the one helicopter, but after the 2nd and even 3rd one came in I ran like a girl and managed to escape the cops in the southern town, but my drugs got confiscated! I hate you cops, let me get my white powder in peace!!!

 
Yea we were chasing you luffy but we have no idea where you went in the town. Even on thermals. However we got the contraband so we passed :p

Next time you won't be so lucky straw hat...

 
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