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House Raiding

Dylan

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Hello.

 Recently I was informed that police officers were not allowed to do house raids.

What is the deal with this? Doing house raids adds that little bit extra and when I was in the police I certainly enjoyed raiding houses. The reason for doing it is because guns are kept in houses as well as other illegal goods and drugs.

I heard that you were not allowed to raid someones house is they are wanted, only if you see them going into their house,but why? Actively raiding houses is something which really does crush the gangs economy, and overall can potentially ruin a gang. 

I believe you can still raid houses but only when you witness someone run to their house or commit a crime. Where is the good in this when the best houses are in places people don't go?

Thanks.

 
I believe it was myself who provided you this information. That is my current understanding. Now I cannot confirm but I would imagine it was to do with when AR was extremely active at raiding houses and would basically dispose of large quantities of Drugs, Weapons etc. 

Realistically it should be allowed. If someone is going to class themselves as a Rebel, who's purpose is undermining the Government on this Island and attempting to take out it's "servants" (Police) in an attempt to take the Island for themselves, you'd have thought the Police would be more pro-active in trying to combat this...but alas...it is also a game and I imagine the Rebels find this quite tough and unfair...it's like them annoying FOB raids in Metal Gear Solid...you are getting stuck into stuff just to have a spanner thrown in the works...there's little time for them to respond, and they have to quickly form a team to combat it....

This is all personal opinion...but that's the best reason I can think of...because from a Police point of view it was legal and extremely successful.

EDIT : I agree with this Dylan, I am not disappointed in you.

 
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I believe it was myself who provided you this information. That is my current understanding. Now I cannot confirm but I would imagine it was to do with when AR was extremely active at raiding houses and would basically dispose of large quantities of Drugs, Weapons etc. 

Realistically it should be allowed. If someone is going to class themselves as a Rebel, who's purpose is undermining the Government on this Island and attempting to take out it's "servants" (Police) in an attempt to take the Island for themselves, you'd have thought the Police would be more pro-active in trying to combat this...but alas...it is also a game and I imagine the Rebels find this quite tough and unfair...it's like them annoying FOB raids in Metal Gear Solid...you are getting stuck into stuff just to have a spanner thrown in the works...there's little time for them to respond, and they have to quickly form a team to combat it....

This is all personal opinion...but that's the best reason I can think of...because from a Police point of view it was legal and extremely successful.
Yes it was Walt but I forgot about when you said it and was recently told by a different officer.

And yes, it is hard for us to respond but at the end of the day, if they are wanted, for example armed robbery you have every right to raid there house imo.

Whether or not its hard on the rebels or not, it should be done because as stated, it crushes a lot of gangs. In my house I have a loadout ready for the few days to gear up on. If cops raided that i'd have to spend another 700k on a loadout everytime i died..

Should be carried on with, anyways, i think its silly that they aren't :D

 
I have absolutely no issues with Police raiding houses it adds more content for both parties within roleplay the government would have a housing database so I really do not see the issue and why other see issues with Police making housing databases and actively raiding houses.

As long as you have a bounty your house should be put on the list to be raided.

When armed response was actually a proactive unit and Bob was in charge there would be red zone operations multiple times a week to raid houses on the wanted list you would assume as rebels we wouldn't want our houses raided but having the chance to defend your loot from who you actually know is raiding it rather than having a random hobo who has paid for bolt cutters clean you out anonymously.

 
I do hope the Police will be allowed to raid houses again. It was a way for the police actively fight crime, rather than just respond to it, plus it was something different.

As I know it, someones house got raided and complained to the admins. It was then decided to be unfair and unrealistic on rebels to raid their houses. Since rebels would live undercover and not have their houses registered in a database. That being said though, it does take a lot of work for Police going around the map making a database, so in my opinion this could be RP'd as an investigation to find rebels houses.
Another issue was that this database was being sold to rebels as well I believe, but I think this will be hard to stop. Since every cop from CSO to CSI can see who owns a house, anyone can sell information.

 
I do hope the Police will be allowed to raid houses again. It was a way for the police actively fight crime, rather than just respond to it, plus it was something different.

As I know it, someones house got raided and complained to the admins. It was then decided to be unfair and unrealistic on rebels to raid their houses. Since rebels would live undercover and not have their houses registered in a database. That being said though, it does take a lot of work for Police going around the map making a database, so in my opinion this could be RP'd as an investigation to find rebels houses.
Another issue was that this database was being sold to rebels as well I believe, but I think this will be hard to stop. Since every cop from CSO to CSI can see who owns a house, anyone can sell information.
Bit silly that an admin deemed it unfair haha...

 
I do hope the Police will be allowed to raid houses again. It was a way for the police actively fight crime, rather than just respond to it, plus it was something different.

As I know it, someones house got raided and complained to the admins. It was then decided to be unfair and unrealistic on rebels to raid their houses. Since rebels would live undercover and not have their houses registered in a database. That being said though, it does take a lot of work for Police going around the map making a database, so in my opinion this could be RP'd as an investigation to find rebels houses.
Another issue was that this database was being sold to rebels as well I believe, but I think this will be hard to stop. Since every cop from CSO to CSI can see who owns a house, anyone can sell information.
The database was actually never sold there's been times where individual houses are going to be leaked but that can come from every officer like you said as they can all check houses, the database itself has only ever been leaked once and it was not as good as people may think.

It is not hard to safeguard the database from others, allow only people of x rank to have access to it and allow only the highest of the AR members to have access to it, it doesn't need to be shared with the whole Police force.

 
The database was actually never sold there's been times where individual houses are going to be leaked but that can come from every officer like you said as they can all check houses, the database itself has only ever been leaked once and it was not as good as people may think.

It is not hard to safeguard the database from others, allow only people of x rank to have access to it and allow only the highest of the AR members to have access to it, it doesn't need to be shared with the whole Police force.
The DB has been leaked many times. When i was in the cops the DB was linked uncarefully several times. So i had acess to it, and i wasn't AR nor high ranked.

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The DB has been leaked many times. When i was in the cops the DB was linked uncarefully several times. So i had acess to it, and i wasn't AR nor high ranked. Skickat från min GT-I9300 via Tapatalk
 why not just give the database to team leaders ?? 

@SI Fry

 
From a different perspective, if said rebel wants to roleplay under a different name than his in-game profile (fake name) he could use stolen bank details/ cash in hand to rent properties. Raiding houses would ruin said rebels roleplay because somehow the police know it is his, although he has role played it as if he had a fake ID.

just food for thought, not factual in anyway, just a way to reason as to why house raiding is stricter.

 
If you want a balance, then make it so only if a rebel's bounty goes above a certain limit? Like say 500k or 1 million.

Police should be actively searching and hunting these dastardly wanted criminals at that sort of level.
Any if any rebel complains about police hunting them & their property, don't have a 500k bounty!

 
If you want a balance, then make it so only if a rebel's bounty goes above a certain limit? Like say 500k or 1 million.

Police should be actively searching and hunting these dastardly wanted criminals at that sort of level.
Any if any rebel complains about police hunting them & their property, don't have a 500k bounty!
Walt had this part sorted. If they had over 100k or something.. we'd raid.. but if it was under that we wouldn't.  

IIn the other case if the owner was wanted for armed robbery, we would raid it for the reason of finding stolen goods.

 
Walt had this part sorted. If they had over 100k or something.. we'd raid.. but if it was under that we wouldn't.  

IIn the other case if the owner was wanted for armed robbery, we would raid it for the reason of finding stolen goods.
not 100k that's just being silly because name one person in altos that doesn't have a 100k bounty 500k is fair in my eyes. And at the end of the day police need to be doing police work, and not going round looking at other peoples stuff

 
not 100k that's just being silly because name one person in altos that doesn't have a 100k bounty 500k is fair in my eyes. And at the end of the day police need to be doing police work, and not going round looking at other peoples stuff
a criminal is a criminal.. end of the day that's that. 100k is more than fine imo.

GTring rid of illegal possessions is doing police work...

 
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Why set it to a specific bounty? At some point im pretty sure houses only got raided with SI and above permission, and the owner was wanted for multiple murders, many counts of drugdealing, cop-killing and/or similar extreme crimes.

This was balanced and fair in my opinion, if the owner had a bounty of 1mil but it was all from lockpicking, the house wasn't raided. If the owner was a notorious drug trafficker, cop-killer or mass murderer, their house got raided.

 
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