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Goose Cartel Matthijas - RDM, no Role Play.

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Name of the person you are reporting (in-game name): [Gc] Matthijas 
 
Time & Date this happened: 28.12.2014 - 17:48
 
Description of what happened:  I spawned in Athira to get a vehicle out for transport, I ran to the teller in the garage spawn shop and choose my pickup truck to spawn, when it spawned there were many armed individuals outside. [Gc] Jack Sonia is present and unholsters his weapon, Charles at the cash machine appears to tell [Gc] Jack Sonia to holster his weapon. I then get in my truck and am shot dead by [Gc] Matthijas. Note that [Gc] Matthijas' position is to the pickup trucks 3 o'clock, he is not in the group of people near the garage shop/cash machine area.  No Role Play received at all from [Gc] Matthijas. 
 
Have you tried to resolve with the player before posting?: Yes. I said what he did was RDM, he replied no its not RDM because he felt threatened by me. (Yet all i did was get my vehicle from the garage, run to my vehicle and get in it. Yet somehow this is justification for killing without Role Play). Chat logs will confirm this is what he said. 
  
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You sure he wasn't warning you? Since if he was then it isn't RDM?

 
I hear 2-3 times someone saying HOLSTER THE WEAPON, but you didnt reply, instead you ran into the car, id say that is not RDM but bad roleplay maybe

 
@ There was a call to holster your weapon twice and ran off to your SUV, though the rain of bullets may seem an extreme response you still blatantly ignored anyone in the video and, more importantly the 

"HOLSTER YOUR WEAPON"

Call coming from a gentleman you casually jog past. You don't actually say anything to anyone! This report is embarrassing. You could have done a variety of things instead of ignoring the situation (how do you know who was being spoken to?), as your "RP reaction" to the situation was considerably calm. Consider the following:

A) "Excuse me, who are you talking to?"

B) "What? Me? My weapon?"

C) "What the fuck are you on about?"

 
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His gun was lowered, what need is there to holster his gun when his gun was down? and clearly going to his car, he was no threat and anyone who cant see that, including these guys needs to reroll to cod

 
PLF Wolf Mctavish said:
His gun was lowered, what need is there to holster his gun when his gun was down? and clearly going to his car, he was no threat and anyone who cant see that, including these guys needs to reroll to cod
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This is a roleplay community and he completely waltzes past a situation like this though, he doesn't even acknowledge the presence of gentlemen with guns in his face shouting at someone! If it were me, I would've probably done one of the things I suggested.

Like I said, the reaction is extreme but he did ignore every single player there. If there were more context to the situation, perhaps we could see things in a different light but all I see is an overreaction (bullet to the head) to someone ignoring an order from a hostile faction. 

Edit: At 0:11, you approached by one gentleman who takes off his weapon and says "Holster your weapon". ou actually stood to look at him from 0:11-0:15, without a word? Who this is said to remains "in dispute", shall we say? Regardless, you just keep on walking your merry way! You also brush past two gents holding two guns at 0:18, which is rather rude to people holding high-calibre rifles. Was your voice not captured by the software you use (giving you the benefit of the doubt)?

TL;DR Version:

Gent walks up to you with a gun "shouts holster your weapon" (little context from this video, reasons unclear)

You stare at him silently, before running off to your vehicle.

Any opportunity for RP (then and there) is ended when the accuser enters his vehicle, he is then promptly shot by the accused.

 
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Earplugs maybe :) ? and yes.. indeed its a roleplay community i see zero roleplay from both partys.

 
Lexi said:
@ There was a call to holster your weapon twice and ran off to your SUV, though the rain of bullets may seem an extreme response you still blatantly ignored anyone in the video and, more importantly the 

"HOLSTER YOUR WEAPON"

Call coming from a gentleman you casually jog past. You don't actually say anything to anyone! This report is embarrassing. You could have done a variety of things instead of ignoring the situation (how do you know who was being spoken to?), as your "RP reaction" to the situation was considerably calm. Consider the following:

A) "Excuse me, who are you talking to?"

B) "What? Me? My weapon?"

C) "What the fuck are you on about?"
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@ are you an admin?

I ask because if youre not you are breaking the rules by posting in someone else's report thread. Same goes for anyone else. 

I'll await an admin to delete the posts from people who are not involved. 

Thanks

READ BELOW BEFORE EVEN COMMENTING (Warning points will be issued)

 

1. The original poster and the person defending themselves may contribute to the post but keep it clean and act like adults.
 
2. Anyone who does not have any evidence who cannot provide value with evidence there post will be deleted, unless they are of a Admin rank.
 
Pandagasm said:
@ are you an admin?

I ask because if youre not you are breaking the rules by posting in someone else's report thread. Same goes for anyone else. 

2. Anyone who does not have any evidence who cannot provide value with evidence there post will be deleted, unless they are of a Admin rank.
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I feel as though my posts were somewhat valuable. Also, should be "their", in the rules, just an FYI admin babes <3

@ I am not an admin.

 
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Lexi said:
I feel as though my posts were somewhat valuable. Also, should be "their", in the rules, just an FYI admin babes <3

@ I am not an admin.
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You forgot to emphasise the rest of the sentence that states "WITH EVIDENCE". Now please, stop getting involved in someone else's report thread where you are not involved and have no evidence.

I'll await an admin to clean this thread of posts from non invovled parties. 

Dont want you to get warning points from the admin babes <3

 
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In response to the "holster your weapon"; I already stated that as far as I was aware that was said by Charlie at the cash machine to Jack Sonia who had just unholstered his weapon. I was not involved with that.

In any event, if the "holster your weapon" was supposed to be directed at myself and if I didnt acknowledge, then perhaps either i didnt hear or didnt know it was directed at myself, so then where was the "stop running or we'll kill you", "dont get in your vehicle or we'll kill you", "don't drive off or we'll kill you".  

 
im not trying to vouch but i was there aswell. we asked u to holster u weapon multiple times and u didnt. then u ran to your car and drove off. but tbh it was an accident because we were aiming for your tires not for you. if we wanted to kill you, you wouldnt see your tires exploding. I repeat: it was an accident you can see us shooting at the tires it was just unlucky.

 
Gc Cpl. Laurens said:
im not trying to vouch but i was there aswell. we asked u to holster u weapon multiple times and u didnt. then u ran to your car and drove off. but tbh it was an accident because we were aiming for your tires not for you. if we wanted to kill you, you wouldnt see your tires exploding. I repeat: it was an accident you can see us shooting at the tires it was just unlucky.
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Then perhaps when there are many people around you should be more specific with who you address your instructions to. Not once was I ever told to stop running or not to get in the vehicle. You had many chances to address the instruction directly to me, instead of it being general, you could of used the clothes i was wearing, green overalls, you could of said oi person running to the vehicle, you could of said dont get in the vehicle, any of that it would have been clear the instruction was meant for me. As i said Jack Sonia unholstered his weapon then i notice the person behind him speaking and I hear "holster your weapon", so obviously I think its directed at the person who just unholstered their weapon. 

I dont buy that you hit me by accident. Matthijas said he killed me because he apparently felt threatened, not once did he say oops i meant to hit the tyres. The tyres are exploding because you pelted the vehicle, lol. 

 
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As you can see we asked you to holster your weapon, if you do not cooperate with 5 armed guys and you got shot please don't complain.

I agree it's bad RP and i apologize for that, but this is not RDM.

- Please don't reply on this and just leave it to the admin.

 
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Rejected > Reason(Shit from both sides. Improve fast. ) > Date 1/1/14
 
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