Gang Wars

[Hektor Armstrong]

Brief Summary: Stricter rules regarding gang wars.

Detailed Suggestion: Gangs are a massive part of the server, holding a large part of the city population and a lot of the main-active players. Wars often break out between gangs for the smallest and stupidest of reasons, often resulting in mass shootings and usually, reports on opposing gang members. I personally feel there should be some form of stricter rules or some form of criteria that must be met in order to declare war with another gang. Gang wars arent really positive for the server and don't have any form of gain for the gangs either way, apart from some photos for tweedle.

The Pros:

Less Bans/Reports

Less angry gang members

More RP for Gangs (hopefully)

More RP overall

The Cons:

Less shooty shoot for the gangs

Does this suggestion change balance on the server ?

No

 

[Bmav]

Personally i agree i think gang wars are dumb but at the same time what else is there without sounding like i am complaining gangs have been doing the same thing for about 1 year : Get Cocaine / Process it / Sell it / Wars / Occasional Life invader and Bank that get breached most of the times.

 Gang wars are started for dumb reasons nowadays and some of them are just pure random for really small things, but i understand somewhat why they happen because what else can they do if they are playing a criminal character.

Its been said multiple times at least from criminal side that there needs to be something new, there is already a few suggestions about it now its just the waiting game.

As for something i think is good to add it would be making each gang have their own special thing this would make it so gang wars would be less common considering you are going to be losing a potential items/Deals or incentive that the gang could have that your gang doesn't have the potential to acquire.

 

[Hektor Armstrong]

Regardless of how little there may be to do for a gang, that isnt something that should really be factored in when making stricter rules. A "war" should be the final step in any form of conflict and its used way too commonly. 

Gangs are usually made up of 20+ people. You can certainly brainstorm RP ideas for yourselves to do with that amount of people. Wars are essentially useless.

 

[Howie]

I’ve not upvoted or downvoted this as it looks like a suggestion to have a discussion, which hasn’t happened yet. 
 

And although I am open to the idea of adding extra hurdles for gangs to go to war, in the real world stupid wars are nothing new either (The war of the Oaken Bucket, War of the Stray Dog, The Pastry War, The war of Jenkins’ Ear and The war of the Golden Stool).

Gang wars are also probably the second best money sink in the city. I don’t gamble and I don’t like cars so the only time my bank balance goes down is when the gang I’m in goes to war. There’s been a few nights that I’ve gone through 500+ SMG rounds and another where I lost an AR and 250 AR rounds (those of you that know how much these things cost, know it would have cost a little). There’s also the higher chance of getting arrested, dumped or having a car scrapped etc. 
 

Wars do definitely lead to more player reports and some gangs are definitely more comfortable using player reports as a weapon than others. But it’s very hard to report someone who hasn’t broken a rule, so maybe adding extra rules to try and stop people who are already breaking rules from breaking rules isn’t the best use of time. 
 

In short I guess gangs are happy to pay the price of going to war, least I am. 

 

[PJ Adams]

Ah yes, a non-gang member giving his opinion he knows nothing about.

Gangs have been around for more than a year and a half on the server now, with the same stuff over and over. People get bored and wanna do crime, you're a criminal that's what you're RPing. Just because someone thinks gangs war over 'nothing' doesn't mean that's the case. The server's been running for over 2 years and the 'beef' between different gangs is always ongoing. As a criminal you're always gonna be limited to what you can do that is illegal. A gang war for example is one of those things, so in a sense you're saying to limit gangs even more than what they already are for no benefit. 

I honestly think if gangs had more to do for example, jewellery stores, shops, banks, illegal car scrapping etc then there'd be less gang members that are 'bored' and wanting to cause fights because simply there isn't much else to do. Like stated above the grind for criminals is long. We make smoothies, armour, etc day in and day out for what? Money to buy what? Guns to do what? We're gang members but get in shit for doing crime and get threatened with life just because we're RPing as a character. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

Less Bans/Reports

Also, this wouldn't happen if people don't break rules and actually roleplay. Too many people are on the server for gunfights and not to make it interesting for the opposition and like you say gangs use reporting as a 'weapon' but they can't if you're following server rules in the first place.

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