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Liam

Liam

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Hello there, I've played on an intel i3 laptop until I bought a gaming PC but I never had any frame issues when I bought it and was able to play on ultra but nowadays I have to play on low everything and sampling 100% to get decent frames! I don't mind playing on low as I played ArmA 2, ArmA2 OA and ArmA3 for a short time with my laptop. Lately my frames are at a solid 75 then jumping down between 3-10 FPS this only occurs when I'm looking down airport road, driving through agios, driving round devils bend or in close combat firefights and its rather annoying..My PC specs are a GTX 750 Ti, Intel core i5-4690K. My drivers are also up to date apparently but I do have a "Shutdown!" option when I click windows click on my desktop. 

If anyone could help, it would be greatly apprieciated.

 
@ZeitoI think this one is for you friend. 

 
I mean, if you have a solid framerate until specific situations, it sounds like it could be a texture loading issue. Is your ArmA installed on an SSD?

Also, if you check your task manager when in those situations, what's your CPU usage at?

 
CMO Marc Smith said:
I mean, if you have a solid framerate until specific situations, it sounds like it could be a texture loading issue. Is your ArmA installed on an SSD?

Also, if you check your task manager when in those situations, what's your CPU usage at?
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No it's not installed on a SSD. CPU usuage is at 21%. @CMO Marc Smith

 
Is the framerate constantly between 3-10 when in those areas, or does it just do that for a second or two and then correct itself?

 
CMO Marc Smith said:
Is the framerate constantly between 3-10 when in those areas, or does it just do that for a second or two and then correct itself?
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Its for about 10 seconds sometimes even longer. I was just in a gun fight close combat about 20 minutes and we were about 10m from eachother in the weed processing building and as I emptied about a quarter of a mag into him my screen started to freeze up too.

Im gonna try restart my PC and see if its any better.

 
Sir Liam said:
Hello there, I've played on an intel i3 laptop until I bought a gaming PC but I never had any frame issues when I bought it and was able to play on ultra but nowadays I have to play on low everything and sampling 100% to get decent frames! I don't mind playing on low as I played ArmA 2, ArmA2 OA and ArmA3 for a short time with my laptop. Lately my frames are at a solid 75 then jumping down between 3-10 FPS this only occurs when I'm looking down airport road, driving through agios, driving round devils bend or in close combat firefights and its rather annoying..My PC specs are a GTX 750 Ti, Intel core i5-4690K. My drivers are also up to date apparently but I do have a "Shutdown!" option when I click windows click on my desktop. 

If anyone could help, it would be greatly apprieciated.
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@WhoisDanCheers :)

First off we need to find out what is causing the frame drops, does it happen always in these areas, can it be reproduced reliably ?

You initial post isn't particlarly clear in what you never ghad issues on, are you comparing Arma3 to arma2 but ran on a i5 ? or is this against other servers. could you explain what you are measuring and expecting for each scenario.

I have heard of somebody getting frame drops from audio and others from drive limitations. So the path to figuring out your problem is not necersarily going to be simple.
First Check my Avatar, it explains alot.

  1. Full PC specs would be great, ram cpu hdd (including free space and how many drives), mobo, gpu (includign gddr amount)  
  2. if you know of exact specifics causing frame drops please let us know, or continue listing where the drops are and the full circumstances for each time.

 
I'm not a really tech guy so I'll screenshot this and post it here:

I only get frame drops in close quarter combat, driving from ARAC to kavala. Somehow kavala i get a solid 55, Kavala Police station, Airfield, ATC towers on airfields and everywhere else i completely fine.

@lionel

Specs.JPG

 
regarding frame drops during gunfights, please check this & dont buy a new GPU to solve it.



 so you could trial running it in stereo if your not already, we had no feedback if that resolved the issue.  @Dylancould you provide feedback on how you resolved the issue in the end?

Driving from ARAC to Kavala, sounds like it could be a loading issue from HDD, if your only on 8GB of ram and running everything off 1 drive that is going to impact texture loading, easiest solution to that is to purchase a SSD & another 8GB of ram (ram before ssd if your tight on cash). Did this the other night with Jamz who was having issues with loading textures as well, he will be able to provide feedback on what performance changes he is see'ing from this.

@Jamzplease could you provide feedback here on how switching Arma to your SSD + increasing Ram from 8GB to 16 with no page file affects your texture loading issues please, cheers.

One thing I noted, as you are getting constant frame rates in particular places, e.g. its loading in certain textures, it could be an early sign of the drive slowing or potentially failing, its always a great idea to have backups of your files(this is purely a gut feeling), as you never had this issue before.

If your geeting big drops in FPS after a while of playing try the following sequence, please note you wont see any typing whilst doing that. Don't Flush Whilst driving its highly illegal and will cause an accident !

Code: 
SHIFT + "Numpad -" and typing FLUSH
 
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lionel said:
regarding frame drops during gunfights, please check this & dont buy a new GPU to solve it.



 so you could trial running it in stereo if your not already, we had no feedback if that resolved the issue.  @Dylancould you provide feedback on how you resolved the issue in the end?

Driving from ARAC to Kavala, sounds like it could be a loading issue from HDD, if your only on 8GB of ram and running everything off 1 drive that is going to impact texture loading, easiest solution to that is to purchase a SSD & another 8GB of ram (ram before ssd if your tight on cash). Did this the other night with Jamz who was having issues with loading textures as well, he will be able to provide feedback on what performance changes he is see'ing from this.

@Jamzplease could you provide feedback here on how switching Arma to your SSD + increasing Ram from 8GB to 16 with no page file affects your texture loading issues please, cheers.

One thing I noted, as you are getting constant frame rates in particular places, e.g. its loading in certain textures, it could be an early sign of the drive slowing or potentially failing, its always a great idea to have backups of your files(this is purely a gut feeling), as you never had this issue before.

If your geeting big drops in FPS after a while of playing try the following sequence, please note you wont see any typing whilst doing that. Don't Flush Whilst driving its highly illegal and will cause an accident !

SHIFT + "Numpad -" and typing FLUSH
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Bought a new headset and turned the sound sources down to 16.

 
lionel said:
@Jamzplease could you provide feedback here on how switching Arma to your SSD + increasing Ram from 8GB to 16 with no page file affects your texture loading issues please, cheers.
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When I have more RAM from 8GB -> 16GB I'll be able to comment... but so far I have gone from this:

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To actually being able to see textures... :)

Haven't got more RAM yet so can't comment on that... but swapping from HDD to SSD is a huge improvement so far.

 
lionel said:
@Jamzplease could you provide feedback here on how switching Arma to your SSD + increasing Ram from 8GB to 16 with no page file affects your texture loading issues please, cheers.
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I done the same and it helps millions.

 
lionel said:
regarding frame drops during gunfights, please check this & dont buy a new GPU to solve it.



 so you could trial running it in stereo if your not already, we had no feedback if that resolved the issue.  @Dylancould you provide feedback on how you resolved the issue in the end?

Driving from ARAC to Kavala, sounds like it could be a loading issue from HDD, if your only on 8GB of ram and running everything off 1 drive that is going to impact texture loading, easiest solution to that is to purchase a SSD & another 8GB of ram (ram before ssd if your tight on cash). Did this the other night with Jamz who was having issues with loading textures as well, he will be able to provide feedback on what performance changes he is see'ing from this.

@Jamzplease could you provide feedback here on how switching Arma to your SSD + increasing Ram from 8GB to 16 with no page file affects your texture loading issues please, cheers.

One thing I noted, as you are getting constant frame rates in particular places, e.g. its loading in certain textures, it could be an early sign of the drive slowing or potentially failing, its always a great idea to have backups of your files(this is purely a gut feeling), as you never had this issue before.

If your geeting big drops in FPS after a while of playing try the following sequence, please note you wont see any typing whilst doing that. Don't Flush Whilst driving its highly illegal and will cause an accident !

SHIFT + Numpad. - and typing FLUSH
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What do you mean Shift + NumPad. - typing flush? @lionel

 
Samatlewiss said:
Why is turning page file important? 

Also how can I check if it's off or not and could you tell/show me how on Windows 10?
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Because page file will flush your ram to your SSD when it runs out of ram. That is a good thing with normal system usage on a normal drive, however for most of us here, we need our drive to be performing quickly, so constantly writing to it doesn't really help ;)

If you have 16GB of RAM, disabling page file will help a lot. I know that people with 8Gb or less may need it though.

 
Not Only that it sits there reading writing lots and lots to your precious SSD decreasing its life span !!! 

google page file please im leaving the office right now !!! Win 10 is the same as 7,8,8.1
you can disable PF on 8GB systems but need to make sure your only running 1 or 2 apps at a time and even then its a bit iffy.

 
How to disable page file: 

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