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Firm teaming rule

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Los Santos Police
Los Santos Police
Gruppe 6
Location
Mirror Park Motors
Simple one really.

Just like the Lost MC, the Firm is able to team up with other gangs, exceeding the G11.2.1 rule. There however are no current rules for the Firm like they're there for the Lost in the rules section, so this is not known, causing confusion.

(also looking at G11 it shows a list of all current whitelisted gangs and it's incomplete)
 
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Simple one really.

Just like the Lost MC, the Firm is able to team up with other gangs, exceeding the G11.2.1 rule. There however are no current rules for the Firm like they're there for the Lost in the rules section, so this is not known, causing confusion.

(also looking at G11 it shows a list of all current whitelisted gangs and it's incomplete)
The Firm has always operated in a grey area due to our use of the F6 (Group) system, which was the easiest to integrate with given the legacy nature of the Lost MC code. While the Lost are a faction with their own unique set of rules, as you correctly pointed out regarding the teaming rule, we are allowed to team because of us not being a faction nor a normal "gang". However, there are far more complex reasons behind certain actions that aren't always visible to avoid meta issues, as you can imagine.

That said, I would encourage greater transparency to prevent any false reports and misunderstandings. While the score and expectations have already been established with the Staff Team through lengthly discussions, I applaud anyone with doubts or concerns about potential rule breaks from my guys or any others to seek clarity from staff—just as others have done in the past.

I hope this helps. I’m confident that when one of the website developers is available, they will make the necessary amendments to the rules page when they see fit :)
 
The Firm has always operated in a grey area due to our use of the F6 (Group) system, which was the easiest to integrate with given the legacy nature of the Lost MC code. While the Lost are a faction with their own unique set of rules, as you correctly pointed out regarding the teaming rule, we are allowed to team because of us not being a faction nor a normal "gang". However, there are far more complex reasons behind certain actions that aren't always visible to avoid meta issues, as you can imagine.

That said, I would encourage greater transparency to prevent any false reports and misunderstandings. While the score and expectations have already been established with the Staff Team through lengthly discussions, I applaud anyone with doubts or concerns about potential rule breaks from my guys or any others to seek clarity from staff—just as others have done in the past.

I hope this helps. I’m confident that when one of the website developers is available, they will make the necessary amendments to the rules page when they see fit :)
I know about the "restrictions" there are on the F6 vs Faction part. I know some people were confused when we had active RP with the firm half a year ago. It would be good to just make it clear for everyone. I was looking at the rules and it just came to my mind. For clarity sake I'd say add it just like it does for the lost. Special status or not, it can be explained without going too much in depth :)

For clarity, I didn't make this because I disagree with the Firm being able to team up with other groups. I made it so it's clear for everyone.
 
I know about the "restrictions" there are on the F6 vs Faction part. I know some people were confused when we had active RP with the firm half a year ago. It would be good to just make it clear for everyone. I was looking at the rules and it just came to my mind. For clarity sake I'd say add it just like it does for the lost. Special status or not, it can be explained without going too much in depth :)
Your concerns are absolutely justified, and I appreciate you bringing them forward. Please know that we have been operating in this way for a very long time. There are many restrictions in place that may not be immediately visible for various reasons. I’m confident that when a Management or Staff lead has the time, they will review the situation and, if necessary, tweak the rules to improve transparency.

As I mentioned, it’s a grey area, and unfortunately, some people adopt a cynical perspective, attempting to leverage that IC. When things don’t go their way, they fall back on the mantra of rule play, only to later realise they were in the wrong the whole time. That aside, I’m certain that, when possible, adjustments will be made if needed—or the current system will remain as is. Time will tell.

I hope this helps clarify any misunderstandings for you or anyone else!
 
Your concerns are absolutely justified, and I appreciate you bringing them forward. Please know that we have been operating in this way for a very long time. There are many restrictions in place that may not be immediately visible for various reasons. I’m confident that when a Management or Staff lead has the time, they will review the situation and, if necessary, tweak the rules to improve transparency.

As I mentioned, it’s a grey area, and unfortunately, some people adopt a cynical perspective, attempting to leverage that IC. When things don’t go their way, they fall back on the mantra of rule play, only to later realise they were in the wrong the whole time. That aside, I’m certain that, when possible, adjustments will be made if needed—or the current system will remain as is. Time will tell.

I hope this helps clarify any misunderstandings for you or anyone else!
Oh that's definitely not the case mate. As we've spoken about before I absolutely loved the RP encounters we've had and you're sound OOC as well mate. It's just for clarity purposes, but I understand the ruleplay part mate.
 
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